Carnivore Diet

[MNK99]

NOTE: woman below is a mentally challenged socialist BUT* the doc is smart. Both of us are way too smart for her 'Mother Gaia' arguments.
You can have more than 10-20 bn people if we live in different types of environments and in outer space. Not all in India and China and not unfettered immigration in the US and Canada (etc).
She is a Carbon reducing socialist (a WEF supporter, even if they don't realize it). Some interesting points but don't waste your time.

Rwandan genocide and mesoamerica and bible cow farmer killed by crop farmers. Crop rotation is needed. Destroying the soil and the ruminants and therefore the predators (including us).

This woman is still crazy apparently but she did save a lot of vegans with her books. She is wrong about some stuff and says some WEF talking points but she is a leftist/liberal/democrat.. so.

More importantly she is no longer dying nor are the vegans she convinced. I have seen vegans age considerably and yeah also people use it for illness. Raw vegan 2 yrs for pfs as a first step, if not water fasting, doing tei, etc? SURE. But as a lifestyle? NO.

I wrote grad papers about some of those genocides she and commenters mentioned, in 6th year econ classes. I mean kind of... about international trade policy and integration, and development, and genocides and shyt. Meat would have stopped many wars. If people want to live in cities, we should have condos filled with cows perhaps.

(I kept WEF shyt out there best I could). But for sure. crops destroyed mankind. Has led to cannibalism a lot. This is supposedly mentioned in the bible and probably the Ramayana / Vedas/ Mahabaratha too (no expert there, but I will ask around plus research).

--true kill count of the vax? see fauci so happy NIH was hiding info that he fucked up? his emails? the audio?? and also... saying "make people's lives hard, it will get rid of their ideological bullshit."? -colbert used to be funny like 18-20 yrs ago. he is a raving leftist lunatic. there were 2 shooters. and anyone not brain dead can see... trump>>>>> ev1 except vivek maybe. WEF doesn't give a fuck about you. they legit caused tons of cancers and will cause spinal cancer with bugs. Chitin. I hope rand paul and Ron take that douchebag down. Alex jones and Tim Dillon too. JONES told u about 911 like half a year before it happened.

 

[RebelWithACause]

WTF. Seems he passed away. Living in the forest is suboptimal. Living in the ocean is more ideal.

Wow, he had a hard life...he lived in the forest. It's hard there.

They say he died from alcohol and liver cancer when he lived in the village (people took him there). Who knows though. He was eating rats and bats pretty sure. Not sure how good that is long term. Definitely an interesting person.

 

[MNK99]

BRO you seen this pos? LOL.

BUT true I like gorillas and some animals like goats and other mammals that are vegan and vegetarian. I even like SOME vegetarian people and ppl have different conditions and whatever helps someone, helps them. And that is good.

 

[MNK99]

Gorillas can eat some meat but are mostly considered herbivores. They do eat some insects and some little things (not sure what).

A TIGER can eat a salad but he shouldn't. He would get sick and throw up maybe. He would have problems digesting it.

 

[MNK99]

HUMANS can eat most meat. Most plants?? will kill you dead or make you sick for sure.

 

[MNK99]

He was eating rats and bats pretty sure. Not sure how good that is long term

Sounds nasty tbh Haha. But yeah he had skills. HE was a survivalist. Like Bear Grylls (Former SAS and bear fighter/youtuber woods guy/urine drinker). He's badass!! Also that guy Glen Villeneuve.

Ya cats, dogs, rats, mice, etc, most bugs, seals, and people are on my "NO list". If I had to survive not sure if I wanted to eat a vegan or a Minnesota Cheese Queen first. I would just fast and lean up.
And maybe try and befriend a tribe or be rescued. Or maybe get some coconuts or berries. Maybe someone could find me honey in such a situation.

 

[MNK99]

Lmeoww!! If I was a cat and these people made me eat that vegan cat food... I'd eat one of them to teach those mofos a lesson!!!

 

[MNK99]

Saving the world from Diabetes and Heart Disease. For true mineral balancing and for mental conditions or odd hormonal issues? IDK. I have seen PHD/Carnivore diet help people with PCOS and also Low T. But also make T and all lower, and then adding carbs back up test and I guess free dht and test also. (clean good carbs... like sweet potatoes, some rice, veggies). and keeping it low still, or at least post workout for me as a slow oxi).

Pretty great test and free test and such eating a couple or multiple times a day for me too but only when pretty or very active... eventually something gave out. Shyness/anxiety was not a huge issue outside of trading making it impossible to talk about what I do. I was just studying and doing crypto when I left on my own again but I should have left after completing exams. Would have opened up more and would have definitely if I had a way to say this will heal me and this will keep me cured. I felt cured at least a couple years and nearly cured and better than ever for 3 years or so but then less and less.

Helen says balance but what does that even mean? Balanced lifestyle and all . Some need extremes or to workout and do sports daily... and use workaholism to feel good. People that succeed need to do extreme things at times but yeah you should make time for friends and all but it is hard, especially after you've been deathly ill with a weird disease no one understands and no one in medicine is trying to solve.

How do you stay cured? Or broach that subject? I found it pretty hard. I will stick to carnivore and add TEI when I am cleaner. Like At 190lbs 6-8 weeks of carnivore and training again versus 210-212 lbs and some fuck ups staying the course. Those fuckups make me depressed, not like PFS depressed and sick with gluten but still not great. IF I make some deserts or something or vary diet a lot so I never get bored that may be one thing. I usually had dex and lots of coffee to keep me on track or 90% on track for diet. 85% when bad, and after PFS like 95%. sometimes I had milkshakes/ iced coffees in pandemic and stuff and it wasn't lactose/gluten free, but even if still lean it was hurting me mentally/focus/mood wise. ADHD and autism wise most likely.

I don't wanna eat and drink stuff that hurts my mental state at all. Sexual drive, personality still decent pretty good while fucking up diet but that isn't me. I am very disciplined. SO I will try buying carnivore bars, making some deserts, maybe losing coffee if the plant food and insulin spikes hurt me. BUT Damn son, it is a pretty isolated/ not socially cool diet however, so was TEI, and water fasting, and fucking lifting morn and night... and avoiding people to go work on my self employed job (day trading, a job that kills 99.9% of its users). I didn't tell retards around me the exams I was doing because there's lots of competition and I never saw any of them as any, not even with dating, but unlike them I was extremely isolated. When I stick to the diet and skin gets more clear (some acne) and I have my fitness and features show better because I am more defined again I am sure I will be a lot happier.

For sure fasting was hard and getting to 18 days was needed and then more and more. SO** same with carnivore and the thing is this is way easier than that... I am eating daily or near it.

I fast 22hrs and sometimes 24. I will incorporate more 48 and 72 hr fasts. Maybe that would have been better at the beginning but I can do them in a few weeks. Maybe like 2-3x a month a 3-4 day fast.
--maybe 5-6 day fasts in 6-8 weeks lets say.

 

[MNK99]

GODDAMNIT look at this stuff

fucking miss turkish food and middle eastern stuff, a resteraunt called Damascus Shwarmera here and also Jerusalem Shwarmera.

And even just cheese burgers. Donair is my fav food. Canadian twists on it and other similar food. Even just kebab and rice (persian or indian places in Toronto), with tomatoes. Add some butter.

Anyways food is for function and form and to fuel you. to make you support the gains you make at the gym (they are made in the kitchen really)...

I wonder if just lifting daily makes ev better nyways even with an 80% diet only. Probably but the problem is I end up eating things that make my mood etc worse and probably intellectually suffer.

Not an issue if you just eat ancestrally.

 

[RebelWithACause]

These guys come around every few years like a cycle. "Ancestry consistent eating"... Jesus takes me back like 10 years ago with paleo but also Aajonus Vonderplanitz...

Meanwhile a lot of these people look like crap. My friend looks better than most of these people.

It's also because sick people gravitate to things that make them feel better and then believe everybody will feel similar to they do. Typical shortsighted garbage that also fuels religion and politics.

 

[MNK99]

BRO I look better than all of em except that Shawn Baker is clearly a lot bigger and stronger but I am barely lifting yet. Even then yeah I can be ripped, shredded and set some records but not rowing.

I can almost set records. Not quite. But I used to do 300-400 pushups and 300-400 crunches after doing 10-12 lifts at the gym including dips and chinups but 3 back, 2 chest, 3 legs and some upper and lower work (I guess arms and shoulders. I have memory probs but mostly ADHD/Neurological.

YES lots of em look like crap but same with most the mineral people. That guy is like 55-60 and also lost lots of weight. It isn't a fad he is helping lots of people. I think people here are beyond carnivore or vegan only however, it is a great start for lots. This doc literally says he isn't vain. THESE guys take people off of 5-10meds, they are actually helping people. It is easy to criticize. Yeah nearly none of the extremely pretty girls I know ate a very specific diet or never ate candy etc either. BUT when health gets fucked up, you need to do what you need to. Eating meat and fat only is a huge step up compared to most people's diets. I was eating well since 16 and intend to continue to. I had no real health problems eating pizza and stuff again for a couple years but I know it isn't optimal and weight increased a bit. And I was addicted to sugar a bit, eating some cookie dough and stuff only because I was sad. 6 weeks I will be in better shape than everyone at that conference, that doesn't mean it is useless info tho.

THE normal diets from health organizations kill their patients, as do the meds. TEI is done by like 5 people. I was one of them, it was helping me. A retard, Clarke says my test wasn't clean. I guarantee you he would break bones joints doing most of my workouts 2018 2019 2020 2016 2015. He also took 6 - 10 years to detox. I killed all fat at 16. These aren't my heroes, I am my own hero.

NOne of the attractive people I know had similar health paths either but some really did struggle. I know pretty women with breast cancer, and people dying of being bedridden at old age. Taking care of their health, regardless of what the person looks like, can still be useful.

HEALTH states may be different than their appearance. I do agree with you though. ALSO KEN Berry looks way better than he did. MANY do. they were obese.

OH I GUESS DR. Chaffee yeah he is really handsome. The rest of these people... I am just learning some carnivore shyt I am not trying to look like any of these cucks. I have more definition with zero workouts BUT** I did train and eat right for most of 20 years. AND skincare. I wouldn't expect random health weirdos to look good.

LOOK at the vaccine queens in Canada. IS she good looking ? NO but unlike meds, this shyt isn't gonna hurt.

Yeah now I am posting Dr. Tam on a board, I am probably on a fascist watchlist. So I will return later.

 

[MNK99]

He seems like a douche. Said my HTMA from 2018 sept (LOL SO PETTY) was not clean at all? I had zero toxicity and I fucking would kill him in 2018 2019 195lb of muscle. And looked 25 at like 31. He knows some minerals but is mostly a douche. He thinks he's the shit, he's an overgrown gay hippy.

@bruschi11 I believe what you say about Clarke.

Even with 5 workouts in 600 days or so, I look way more built than he does. Because of years of training and eating right (in different ways). At my peak health? FUCK man, we aren't even the same species.

HE was a fat psyche med user and studied a couple pamphlets about minerals, now he's a super genius LOL. But yeah I will follow TEI because ev1 says it works and I mean it resolved my insomnia and dreams and stuff day one. AND also asthma was cured for 18-24mo pretty sure fasting and diet and exercise played huge parts of that. I was in a better position to deep heal. It wasn't just the minerals.

Lots of ugly fattos take minerals and still look like dogs. SO I mean if in better health and then taking gay minerals, I am sure it will be better. IF It makes urology awesome and mood and autism better cool. BUT I mean androgens can go far. SO can other shyt. I think test and masteron or test propionate or test cream will help me. I was given 80 percent lower dose than I should have of test cream (from a woman pharmacist). Anyways, I dropped like 10lbs, soon 20 more on carnivore. I drop 10-12 in 3 days. 21 days from now I will probably ripped again. If I do TEI 2-3months, hair test ppl will be like "yeah it is from tei and detoxing!!".

IDK. I will try that shyt again. I know it works but I am pretty sure the supps never change and the practitioners don't actually know why it works or doesn't.

I am kind of pissed off lately and don't mean to discourage anyone from following TEI nor diet changes. I felt superhuman for most of the time since 2018 Summer. It is just that some years were tough and I am trying to get back on track for health and yeah there is a lot of bs around. I wish I had recombinant FSH and or LH and maybe just taking that I'd be set again.

Orthomolecular medicine may make sense for me, for mood stability reasons alone. Add fuller testicles again quickly, and yeah fine. But when do I quit tei? never. I am not sure. Helen once said it is like replacement therapy (TEI). But they don't give you what makes you feel good usually, it is to chelate /detox.

I mean how come all of us did different things outside of TEI. I do remember you and Helen telling me to stick to tei and be super cured of everything including craziness.

 

[MNK99]

Baker and Chaffee look pretty fucking healthy. I looked healthy as fuck pre hair test. I'd rather do more androgens. Not looking fwd to hair testing. Could they be even healthier? Probably, anyone can.

These are physicians with real jobs (most of them, Chaffee and Ken Berry at least), they aren't looksmaxing 20 year olds.

Most people on hair test channels look bad but what can I do about it and who cares? I have better hair than most on hairloss talk they would think (it is diffuse loss tho. can be disguised and look perfect and maybe FUES at 40 -45 50 whenever it is cheap for me and I can take a week off sort of).

There are ppl on fin that are super healthy (some). Most of ppl on the forums? No.

On my thread, Clarke says to a guy:

http://Is.corectomg.na/k ratio like charging your bodies battery... Ie do people get more energy


Clark Engelbert

Yes and yes.

I think I expd that but for a short time... I did become tired again in 2021 2022 at times but I mean I guess I should have stuck to tei forever and moved on after finishing my tests/ so I could open up.

I see a lot of people fucked with constant detoxing tho. AND I mean what science do these guys know besides basic biochem?

Look at this guy: his life was fucked from minerals and his health practitioners. For sure Clarke would claim he'd be better off doing shyt his way.
ALSO The video I showed, the doc literally says that some people need to eat differently, carnivore isn't for everyone. --> can't find that video.

Looking at anthropology, you can see people ate meat and organs. Maybe we are meant to be omnivores but I mean just cuz someone eats healthy doesn't mean they are healthy in all aspects.
AND I mean I was pretty healthy using coke and vodka my early 20's and eating pretty clean (I mean alcohol ruined a lot of that at times), with zero hair tests but I had to work hard to remove that and be healthy again, doing what I always did.

These things happen to us and we change our approaches. Common sense shyt like good diet and exercise is key.

 

[MNK99]

RWAC:

These guys come around every few years like a cycle. "Ancestry consistent eating"... Jesus takes me back like 10 years ago with paleo but also Aajonus Vonderplanitz...

Meanwhile a lot of these people look like crap. My friend looks better than most of these people.

It's also because sick people gravitate to things that make them feel better and then believe everybody will feel similar to they do. Typical shortsighted garbage that also fuels religion and politics.

We are all the same species tho. Dogs should eat like dogs. Cats like cats. Sharks like sharks.

FOR sure cancer has exploded with more processed food. Even good looking/ healthy looking people can get heart attacks and fatal cancer. People that never paid attention to diet can drop dead at 30, people that were health addicts also can too. By itself, it doesn't tell us much.

***SAYS BRUSCHI but that is quoting RWAC. this site leaves something to be desired. a lot lol. but i know it is costly hosting shyt.


YOu can smoke with your DOG all life.. 15-17 yrs, your dog can be beautiful. Doesn't mean his hair tests and blood tests and fitness tests and relative attraction to other dogs (for dogs), is the best.
AND yet that dog with 2nd hand smoke can still be way healthier than a goodie twoshoes dog that does only healthy stuff (runs, and eats perfect diet from their owner's freshly cut meat).

 

[MNK99]

RWAC:
These guys come around every few years like a cycle. "Ancestry consistent eating"... Jesus takes me back like 10 years ago with paleo but also Aajonus Vonderplanitz...

Meanwhile a lot of these people look like crap. My friend looks better than most of these people.

It's also because sick people gravitate to things that make them feel better and then believe everybody will feel similar to they do. Typical shortsighted garbage that also fuels religion and politics.

These
We are all the same species tho. Dogs should eat like dogs. Cats like cats. Sharks like sharks.

FOR sure cancer has exploded with more processed food. Even good looking/ healthy looking people can get heart attacks and fatal cancer. People that never paid attention to diet can drop dead at 30, people that were health addicts also can too. By itself, it doesn't tell us much.

You can smoke with your DOG all life.. 15-17 yrs, your dog can be beautiful. Doesn't mean his hair tests and blood tests and fitness tests and relative attraction to other dogs (for dogs), is the best.
AND yet that dog with 2nd hand smoke can still be way healthier than a goodie twoshoes dog that does only healthy stuff (runs, and eats perfect diet from their owner's freshly cut meat).

These guys will be here for decades and change as more data comes out. Guaranteed Baker, Chaffee, and Berry will be here in 10-20 yrs talking about carnivore. It saved many of their diseased and fat patients. NOT everyone with brain cancer, or alzheimers, or diabetes looks bad by the way. Literally even if that solves 80 85% of health issues, that isn't a fad. Just cuz it may not work for PFS (which is just a random chronic illness), doesn't mean it can't work for most other health issues.

I am like 22.4 percent bodyfat in like 3 days of carnivore. And 14 -17in 3-4 weeks probably. And 12-15 again in 5-6 and 10-12 in a bit longer.
I DO MISS RICE and some fucking hot sauce mostly. Some cheese/ raw cheese. AND like spinach and maybe some other veggies.

 

[MNK99]

I knew this girl (several actually) but this one girl who dropped out of law school and was using meth. SHE was really pretty. HOWEVER to fuel meth addiction, she became a high class escort. I am pretty sure carnivore or a strict paleo diet (true paleo is carnivore probably*.) is better than meth addiction even if she looks worse (not sure why she would) temporarily.
You don't realize PALEO was taken over by industry and marketing... and what they call paleo isn't actually paleo.

DO you work for BIG GLUTEN bro?? @RebelWithACause
WHEN DID KELLOGS GET TO YOU??

LOL JK.

 

[MNK99]

Look at these studies. None are that interesting/ impressive. But I looked for a second. The first one? WEF/globalists/ anti meat conspirators are just hating on meat.

Just because Liver King is a liar (about steroid use mostly and his diet and being natty), doesn't mean there wasn't an ancestral diet. FOOD CHANGES way quicker than we evolved.
AND literally meat is what made our ancient ancestor's brains expand in size. Meat and psychedelics most likely.

---these guys are paid by canola,kellogs, food lobbyists, sugar companies. why else the hateful tone towards carnivore as health and wellness?​

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If you meant the gay vegan guy and the mentally challenged woman for sure they have poor arguments and have some mental illnesses. If you meant Dr. Berry, or Chaffee, etc... I don't think so bro.


Not sure what all the haterade is about. OZEPH cured PFS with carnivore. AND ppl cure parkinsons and shyt with carnivore. NOT ev1. Not saying it will help me as much as DHT and rite form of test would AND tei would (whichever is better, possibly tei but IF DHT and test worked/ that's effectively a cure at this point. barely anyone did all I did in 2018 to cure this. even in five yrs they didn't).

There are tons of studies ppl can read. NOT ALL facts / human exp is found on hackstasis and other forums. THERE are ppl that cured and prevented cancer doing things like this. And diabetes (way easier, 2 weeks carnivore no diabetes type 2 at least, unless severely overweight).

 

[MNK99]

Everyday he sets records. x.com
Shawn Baker.

AND: this guy looks pretty damn good for steroids 30 years. He used em for health problems. He has UC.
HE DID AT LEAST. he looks a bit older here, but i saw some of his vids from2-3 yrs ago.

--Lots of ppl improved fertility nice, with carnivore (unrelated). Dr. robert Kiltz and other show that.
--Lots of women commenters wrote into that video (Not shown), and said they finally had a kid, after doing carnivore or keto for a year or more. By accident or planned.
--They were trying for a baby a long time. Who knows what medical issues, med issues, etc they had. But it does work and helps many. N of 1 it isn't, it is n of many.
--Medical establishment/scientists won't study this nor pfs pssd, till we are all long dead. They won't raise funds for research. Pretty sure PFS foundation or the other one, most money was embezzled/wasted.
--Finding out it was Androgen Receptor Overexpression was useful, but even as a kid, I felt it was some type of permanent/semi permanent receptor downregulation (I was 21 with PSSD if not 19-20 maybe 22).
--Lots of time on Effexor I was hypersexual but then yeah there were probs after. Coke and running and lifting and eating right helped a lot. TEI then or ru486 and stuff would have helped.

 

[MNK99]

Not ev is as severe as PFS, some things are even worse, but the avg person is not healthy and hasn't been for like 20-30 yrs maybe.

Processed food, meds, vaccines, toxic metals and yeah less exercise for most people. There are plenty of vibrant 15-20 year olds for instance that are sick. 85% of Americans have a chronic illness, 65-70% or something have 2 or more.

This estimate shows less... whatever it is a huge amt in different cohorts. Many doctor's estimates and studies show more. AND yeah psoriasis, excema or asthma/allergies might count as 2 illnesses and much more severe ones can too. I got rid of excema many yrs ago and asthma mostly 5-8 yrs ago and recent yrs after fasting/ maybe tei and being lean. Some coming back but no gluten and lower bodyfat (mostly it is gluten it is just i am lean without it), it is better. YEAH for sure , bread , cheese as a kid made asthma way way worse.

Not saying disease is good or normal, but rather that it is normalized. Whatever makes me superhuman again, lots of test cream and dht cream or test cream and hcg (transdermal on scrotum ups DHT more than any other form of testosterone, cypionate, enanthate, propionate, sustanon increase DHT less than transdermal). That was the point of posting that stuff earlier. OR TEI.

I felt super human on and after TEI a bit but I mean most ppl I see online don't look that good with TEI. steroids and skin care seem better. Sustainable muscle and endogenous test and dht should be better though. AND tei can do that, but it is 10-20% tei, 80-90% me. Same with diet/exercise. The supps/meds go a long way, but stimulus to change like in bodybuilding is exercise (and whatever else you do, sleep), and to actually facillitate it and refuel is energy (food). Medicines/supps can make that way more efficient.

Possibly fasting 40-50 days would fix all kinds of shyt anyways. So far it is ok for mental health but mine was far superior half way thru 2018 and 2019-2022 most of it.


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[MNK99]

YMMV but if someone fasts 22hrs a day for decades/years like I have most the time... and water fasts 30d... you're really fucking up if you don't look young. OR there's other health shyt going on.

I can find plenty of good looking young looking people doing fasting or carnivore. Dr. Chaffee is 42 he looks amazing. He says his parents are getting younger too. You know if you say a few wrong things you can get kicked out of medicine right? Like Shawn Baker may have. Chaffee, gets donations on youtube lol, I have had siblings doing residency, they work like 110-140hrs a week and make less than min wage.
FOR five - eight yrs, after med school (in it they make zero usually or near it, before that they make little or none also usually).

Chaffee does shyt between shifts and is a mature student, 42/ doing residency but that's not even that bad... I'd be older if I entered med school, then did that residency. We have family friends that are neurosurgeons, people I grew up with or that my brother or cousins went to school with. They work really hard and have nothing to gain by risking one of the most elite careers possible and a good income, to shill a diet. Saladino sure, he never practiced and went there after chilling for five yrs, and being a physician's assistant for a time.

IF it was about looks and examples.. no one would ever do minerals or anything really. People think they'll look like bodybuilders after 1-2 yrs lifting, without correct form, hormones being high, diet, and genetics, they don't. they can look really well after 5-8 years more like 10 for most ppl (16-26) but most don't stick with it.

I think you're viewing it wrong. AND carnivore or whatever diet helped lots of people, including people with PFS. IN case you haven't realized, we're kind of on our own for chronic conditions. I know people in my own life that are no longer here that probably would have benefited from such diets.

People could say intermittent fasting is a scam... it kept me ripped most of 20 years. Counting macros, carbs, protein doesn't work... ditto.
Diet and exercise is a scam u either have the genetics or u don't. ppl accused me of roids BEFORE ever touching sarms and years after them (almost 7-8) and 3 yrs after randro/4andro. it was mostly discipline and setting myself up to succeed.

FASTING made me young months and years after fasting. I intend on doing it again, and not for immediate results (sure when really healthy it can do that). To repair a brain injury it takes time. I don't think everyone here was equally as sick.

Most people including here can't stick to a diet for 2 weeks. I've accidentally dieted/ done ADF, etc, intermittent fasting for weeks to years straight. Let alone juice feasting, water fasting etc. You can't judge carnivore on 2 weeks and you can't judge water fasting on 5 days, unless it is for a cute weight loss thing.

That is like someone recovering from covid versus pfs. there's a big difference (covid almost killed and did kill a lot of ppl but i mean typical run of the mill bullshit covid that most people got).

A minor cold versus this PFS/TBI. Ozeph did brain scans, showed TBI basically. Ghost and I had permanently worsened ADHD from Effexor, not everyone just had some issues. I had all of them on that PH list.