Discussing modern medicine

[noprop]

And permanent "side effects" (actually the true mechanism) that are "extremely rare", "do not persist", and "I've never heard of" (as per pharmacists and doctors).
Indeed, makes almost no sense at all to those unaffected till they see how fucked up your life has become, and the steps you've taken to fix it (personally speaking).

I remember some idiots saying I slur some words bc of all the "hard drugs" (literally alcohol, effexor, mj like 15 times) at that point. It was literally Effexor XR and whatever else they put me on back then. Then withdrawing from it and severe depression. Also hypomania, etc.

I still slur a bit, but 60% dead, I'm more articulate than all those assholes (when not too high or too low (mood, anxiety, etc -- or post-fin)). They don't realize how many of their peers in school and work are on serious drugs let alone prescription drugs (far worse). I could function fine on some obviously dangerous things, and not get out of bed or make sense at all on and after the RX ones. Being able to stay in the same tense and separate paragraphs may be partly medication caused, but it may have been happening anyways. Actually I couldn't get out of bed both after effexor and fin for some time. The first I got a lot better than started using alcohol etc again, then other things. So yeah, you're not good if your on drugs, but fine if you're on prescription ones... it's vexing. The same is true of societally acceptable drugs vs. the non social drugs. "Doctor knows best." Lol, I grew up around like 50 future docs.

I found that after not being on anything after quitting fin, I thought a family member was on something a lot of times... but they were usually not. They are ADHD and switch moods a bit here and there, but less than me. SO I can also see why others would think I'm on drugs (because my cognitive dysfunction is significantly worse than their's), esp if they see me "hyper" every single time they see me. BUT* what they don't know, is that not knowing all of this is a very lucky situation to be in. When I'm sober and tense, people want me to drink... so much hypocrisy. Eating all lean, want you to eat bread. And on and on.

People want you to be a certain way, but when you know you'll never be like them and only you and something drastically alters that 'you', that's devastating.
I hope all past tense for me.

TO put psyche and hormonal drugs in perspective: I literally quit inhalers sometimes bc of not remembering to refill them, not wanting to go to the doctor, lack of time... and that's for breathing. Jack shit occurs besides some wheezing. Quit effexor, seroquel, latuda, fin, duta, etc cold turkey --- and see what happens. You end up trying to solve an unsolvable chronic disease. You should see how many kids under 18 have permanent shaking and tremors and akasthisa, dyskinesias, etc from psyche drugs (for disorders that don't even exist in adolescence and are ALWAYS diagnosed incorrectly). It's a fucking joke. I like some psychiatrists, but the drugs and DSM are moronic.

Society and parents and schools and the common man do not know how to deal with people who are "different", so they label them, deride them, and drug them.
Not only that but they create a reality in which they need those drugs. Like some people I've seen who have tried like 60 different psyche drugs.

I'd rather be an educated, cost-benefit-analyzing drug-user than a zombie or a fat diabetic pill popping "common man", any fucking day.

You are saying the truth and you are intelligent. This is too much for lots of people. Stupid or average people are the perfect clients for the (medicine) industry.

 

[Aflac94]

And permanent "side effects" (actually the true mechanism) that are "extremely rare", "do not persist", and "I've never heard of" (as per pharmacists and doctors).
Indeed, makes almost no sense at all to those unaffected till they see how fucked up your life has become, and the steps you've taken to fix it (personally speaking).

I remember some idiots saying I slur some words bc of all the "hard drugs" (literally alcohol, effexor, mj like 15 times) at that point. It was literally Effexor XR and whatever else they put me on back then. Then withdrawing from it and severe depression. Also hypomania, etc.

I still slur a bit, but 60% dead, I'm more articulate than all those assholes (when not too high or too low (mood, anxiety, etc -- or post-fin)). They don't realize how many of their peers in school and work are on serious drugs let alone prescription drugs (far worse). I could function fine on some obviously dangerous things, and not get out of bed or make sense at all on and after the RX ones. Being able to stay in the same tense and separate paragraphs may be partly medication caused, but it may have been happening anyways. Actually I couldn't get out of bed both after effexor and fin for some time. The first I got a lot better than started using alcohol etc again, then other things. So yeah, you're not good if your on drugs, but fine if you're on prescription ones... it's vexing. The same is true of societally acceptable drugs vs. the non social drugs. "Doctor knows best." Lol, I grew up around like 50 future docs.

I found that after not being on anything after quitting fin, I thought a family member was on something a lot of times... but they were usually not. They are ADHD and switch moods a bit here and there, but less than me. SO I can also see why others would think I'm on drugs (because my cognitive dysfunction is significantly worse than their's), esp if they see me "hyper" every single time they see me. BUT* what they don't know, is that not knowing all of this is a very lucky situation to be in. When I'm sober and tense, people want me to drink... so much hypocrisy. Eating all lean, want you to eat bread. And on and on.

People want you to be a certain way, but when you know you'll never be like them and only you and something drastically alters that 'you', that's devastating.
I hope all past tense for me.

TO put psyche and hormonal drugs in perspective: I literally quit inhalers sometimes bc of not remembering to refill them, not wanting to go to the doctor, lack of time... and that's for breathing. Jack shit occurs besides some wheezing. Quit effexor, seroquel, latuda, fin, duta, etc cold turkey --- and see what happens. You end up trying to solve an unsolvable chronic disease. You should see how many kids under 18 have permanent shaking and tremors and akasthisa, dyskinesias, etc from psyche drugs (for disorders that don't even exist in adolescence and are ALWAYS diagnosed incorrectly). It's a fucking joke. I like some psychiatrists, but the drugs and DSM are moronic.

Society and parents and schools and the common man do not know how to deal with people who are "different", so they label them, deride them, and drug them.
Not only that but they create a reality in which they need those drugs. Like some people I've seen who have tried like 60 different psyche drugs.

I'd rather be an educated, cost-benefit-analyzing drug-user than a zombie or a fat diabetic pill popping "common man", any fucking day.

Yeah the culture of trust your doctor without thinking for yourself is very dangerous.

There are things that modern medicine does well, and therefore saves lives. Vaccines, true emergencies, lots of stuff that is genuinely beneficial.

However for every achievement there is at least equal if not more harm done. That is the problem. The industry has tried to fix this or hasn’t done a good job I’d they have.

I believe a deficient of adequate research combined with BIG pharma are two big problems of many.

You inherently cannot cost-effectively research drugs and determine their efficacy and safety. For two reasons. One, to adequately determine their safety one would need to understand how the drug acts in all systems of the body. This is not possible because we do not understand how the human body works completely and everyone has different unique gene/chemistry so it may act differently in different people. Other problem is the studies are designed poorly and made to look as if the drug had greater benefit than it did. For example if you use a questionnaire to assess the effectiveness of an SSRI, “one a scale of 1 to 10 how happy are you today, guys says I’m at a 7. Well if the placebo group says they are at a 6. Then the company goes and claims holy shit this SSRI showed statistically significant improvement in patients mood, and doctors prescribe it. Did they look to see all it did was cause someone people to rate their happiness 7 vs 6, out of 10. You think that is fu*cking meaningful / worth all the potential dangers and huge cost to society to develop and produce. Fu*k no. But that’s how it works and these companies can make billions, while providing nothing but waste or harm to society. What a Tragedy.

Now the doctors are complicit in this process because they don’t really care to look into the research, or side effects. All they see is the last line in the study that it provided statistically significant benefit and then they pass out the drug. Either they don’t care or are too superficial to think about this and want some option to give their patient to feel like they have a purpose/ justify people coming to them.

But they are too stupid or hardheaded to realize this system is dangerous and therefore will eventually undermine their own credibility. Because people being harmed by doctors begin to trust the system less.

Which is a shame because there are things medicine gets right. What they need to do is figure out where they are harming people and stop it. If the industry of physicians understood this, they would care more to fix it, because it’s good business (and common sense not to harm your customers or they won’t be customer) , and we all know it’s all about the money.

 

[pedal]

There are things that modern medicine does well, and therefore saves lives. Vaccines, true emergencies, lots of stuff that is genuinely beneficial.

Vaccines weakened my health and set me up for PFS along with antibiotics, I know countless classmates who had their lives more or less ruined by autism and it gets worse every generation because the number of childhood vaccines keeps going up every year. Don't think you're safe as an adult either, my friend who was athletic now has trouble breathing after doing a required yearly vaccine because he is a nurse at a hospital and many of his coworkers have weird symptoms for weeks afterwards.

The promotion of vaccines is based on junk science like "60% of the people who got the flu shot in October didn't get the flu in December." That's over 50% which means it works! Most people don't know how ridiculous and corrupted "healthcare" is because they trust in the system and don't investigate and read the studies. The polio vaccine myth is still believed to this day.

"Lots of stuff that is genuinely beneficial"? I'm struggling to think of even one, occasionally prescribing vitamin D maybe? When doctors go on strike the death rate goes down so drastically the people running morgues go bankrupt and commit suicide.

Emergency room surgeons make more money than other types, could be because they're one of the few doctors which save lives. Or maybe they get paid more for killing the most, I don't know. But I think most people take medication because they don't have money to address the real issues, most can't just quit their job and take a lengthy vacation to get their health back in order.

 

[ruprmurdoch]

Vaccines weakened my health and set me up for PFS along with antibiotics, I know countless classmates who had their lives more or less ruined by autism and it gets worse every generation because the number of childhood vaccines keeps going up every year. Don't think you're safe as an adult either, my friend who was athletic now has trouble breathing after doing a required yearly vaccine because he is a nurse at a hospital and many of his coworkers have weird symptoms for weeks afterwards.

The promotion of vaccines is based on junk science like "60% of the people who got the flu shot in October didn't get the flu in December." That's over 50% which means it works! Most people don't know how ridiculous and corrupted "healthcare" is because they trust in the system and don't investigate and read the studies. The polio vaccine myth is still believed to this day.

"Lots of stuff that is genuinely beneficial"? I'm struggling to think of even one, occasionally prescribing vitamin D maybe? When doctors go on strike the death rate goes down so drastically the people running morgues go bankrupt and commit suicide.

Emergency room surgeons make more money than other types, could be because they're one of the few doctors which save lives. Or maybe they get paid more for killing the most, I don't know. But I think most people take medication because they don't have money to address the real issues, most can't just quit their job and take a lengthy vacation to get their health back in order.

aluminium and mercury are not healthy
rotaviruses are not healthy
they are worse than fin and ssri's

but this is how you manipulate people, you say doctor, you think about sth good, but check out milgram experiment,
doc's are just people with medical school diploma, and what is important is how they teach them, how education looks like on medical schools.

another lingustic manipulation, vaccines, you think vaccine you think it's good, but vaccines are substance which contain mercury,aluminium, rotaviruses,formaldehyde.

and what I see that person who should think rationaly, in fact is behaving emotionally when you face them with science and rational argument. but ,,someone'' is benefit beacuse of doc's education, and someone is benefit beacuse people think ,,vaccines are healthy''.

 

[noprop]

aluminium and mercury are not healthy
rotaviruses are not healthy
they are worse than fin and ssri's

but this is how you manipulate people, you say doctor, you think about sth good, but check out milgram experiment,
doc's are just people with medical school diploma, and what is important is how they teach them, how education looks like on medical schools.

another lingustic manipulation, vaccines, you think vaccine you think it's good, but vaccines are substance which contain mercury,aluminium, rotaviruses,formaldehyde.

and what I see that person who should think rationaly, in fact is behaving emotionally when you face them with science and rational argument. but ,,someone'' is benefit beacuse of doc's education, and someone is benefit beacuse people think ,,vaccines are healthy''.

Unfort.there are up to twenty different Bad things (even strontium was found) in it.
I must say that if I knew how that world is running and why this way, I wished never to be born. Never. When your ennemies dont like you, okay. But when your own family destroys you (severe narcisstic personal disorder) from the beginning, I must admit that this is far worse but shows that some people in this world are poor re selfesteem and they want to lie to the others in order to weaken them and rescuing themselves. I never destroyed anybody. I ask myself what if I had the right! to destroy all those mofos who destroyed me? Would it be fair mean why cannot I but they? If millions of people understood whats going on, they might think about being very clear re steps. No military would stop a revolution. This is the fear. And thats why the mass and strong people must be controlled in any possible way. I am lucky that the human beeing wont survive in this universe and will be destroyed naturally. It takes time but will happen. I sometimes ask myself what is the reason I got born? To ASK this question? Its obvious: my fucking liar mother just wanted to have a family and get grandmother. Now she wont hehe and I never wanted to have a family either. Sometimes things are much more basic, essentiell than one might think.
There is a cartoon and in it you can See a mother and a daughter which hair is being treated by her mom. The girl ASK her mother (naively): Did you want a son or a daughter? Mother: I wanted to fuck.
Hahaha. At least she has the balls to say that. Lying and deceiving people are somehow weak. Even if they are clever or powerful. They are weak in their mind, I guess. Instead they should have learned to strengten themselves and would have a complete other life. The more you have the more you loose when you gonna die and you will have problems facing that. You will fear the death and if afterlife exists, you will struggle going there.

 

[noprop]

Vaccines weakened my health and set me up for PFS along with antibiotics, I know countless classmates who had their lives more or less ruined by autism and it gets worse every generation because the number of childhood vaccines keeps going up every year. Don't think you're safe as an adult either, my friend who was athletic now has trouble breathing after doing a required yearly vaccine because he is a nurse at a hospital and many of his coworkers have weird symptoms for weeks afterwards.

The promotion of vaccines is based on junk science like "60% of the people who got the flu shot in October didn't get the flu in December." That's over 50% which means it works! Most people don't know how ridiculous and corrupted "healthcare" is because they trust in the system and don't investigate and read the studies. The polio vaccine myth is still believed to this day.

"Lots of stuff that is genuinely beneficial"? I'm struggling to think of even one, occasionally prescribing vitamin D maybe? When doctors go on strike the death rate goes down so drastically the people running morgues go bankrupt and commit suicide.

Emergency room surgeons make more money than other types, could be because they're one of the few doctors which save lives. Or maybe they get paid more for killing the most, I don't know. But I think most people take medication because they don't have money to address the real issues, most can't just quit their job and take a lengthy vacation to get their health back in order.

You should detox with IV Na EDTA or DMPS asap. DMPS however not the safest way. Best

 

[Concerned]

Vaccines weakened my health and set me up for PFS along with antibiotics, I know countless classmates who had their lives more or less ruined by autism and it gets worse every generation because the number of childhood vaccines keeps going up every year. Don't think you're safe as an adult either, my friend who was athletic now has trouble breathing after doing a required yearly vaccine because he is a nurse at a hospital and many of his coworkers have weird symptoms for weeks afterwards.

The promotion of vaccines is based on junk science like "60% of the people who got the flu shot in October didn't get the flu in December." That's over 50% which means it works! Most people don't know how ridiculous and corrupted "healthcare" is because they trust in the system and don't investigate and read the studies. The polio vaccine myth is still believed to this day.

"Lots of stuff that is genuinely beneficial"? I'm struggling to think of even one, occasionally prescribing vitamin D maybe? When doctors go on strike the death rate goes down so drastically the people running morgues go bankrupt and commit suicide.

Emergency room surgeons make more money than other types, could be because they're one of the few doctors which save lives. Or maybe they get paid more for killing the most, I don't know. But I think most people take medication because they don't have money to address the real issues, most can't just quit their job and take a lengthy vacation to get their health back in order.

Why do you think vaccines and antibiotics are linked to your pfs? I had a lot of vaccines plus a course of antibiotics around 9 months before using finasteride very briefly then crashing and having very bad pfs. What are your symptoms?

 

[RebelWithACause]

I think most people go crazy from low fat, low cholesterol, low amino acid diet.

I casually checked out what my co workers eat. A lot of grains (bread/toast), vegetable oils, fake sandwich spreads, some cheese, sugar, coffee.

That's it.

Most people are already on a plant-based diet without being a vegan! And companies are pushing it more and more. Today I read a Dutch ad "Plants are the new cows!".

A lot of people are starving and lacking nutrients. That is why they go crazy.

 

[Reverse]

Yeah the culture of trust your doctor without thinking for yourself is very dangerous.

There are things that modern medicine does well, and therefore saves lives. Vaccines, true emergencies, lots of stuff that is genuinely beneficial.

However for every achievement there is at least equal if not more harm done. That is the problem. The industry has tried to fix this or hasn’t done a good job I’d they have.

I believe a deficient of adequate research combined with BIG pharma are two big problems of many.

You inherently cannot cost-effectively research drugs and determine their efficacy and safety. For two reasons. One, to adequately determine their safety one would need to understand how the drug acts in all systems of the body. This is not possible because we do not understand how the human body works completely and everyone has different unique gene/chemistry so it may act differently in different people. Other problem is the studies are designed poorly and made to look as if the drug had greater benefit than it did. For example if you use a questionnaire to assess the effectiveness of an SSRI, “one a scale of 1 to 10 how happy are you today, guys says I’m at a 7. Well if the placebo group says they are at a 6. Then the company goes and claims holy shit this SSRI showed statistically significant improvement in patients mood, and doctors prescribe it. Did they look to see all it did was cause someone people to rate their happiness 7 vs 6, out of 10. You think that is fu*cking meaningful / worth all the potential dangers and huge cost to society to develop and produce. Fu*k no. But that’s how it works and these companies can make billions, while providing nothing but waste or harm to society. What a Tragedy.

Now the doctors are complicit in this process because they don’t really care to look into the research, or side effects. All they see is the last line in the study that it provided statistically significant benefit and then they pass out the drug. Either they don’t care or are too superficial to think about this and want some option to give their patient to feel like they have a purpose/ justify people coming to them.

But they are too stupid or hardheaded to realize this system is dangerous and therefore will eventually undermine their own credibility. Because people being harmed by doctors begin to trust the system less.

Which is a shame because there are things medicine gets right. What they need to do is figure out where they are harming people and stop it. If the industry of physicians understood this, they would care more to fix it, because it’s good business (and common sense not to harm your customers or they won’t be customer) , and we all know it’s all about the money.

The only greatest achievement in establishment medicine is surgery. And that was a bumby road to walk due to the quack academia doctors rejecting basic common sense logical hygiene practices for many years.

The history of health care and medicine in academia and establishment is filled with horror stories and men who were silenced and ridiculed for pointing out the obvious.

There seems to be an dark extremism that consistently guides so called doctors and government recognized health officials through out history.

Surgery is truely the only accomplishment of modern medicine. Everything was solved using common sense and prevention along with proper nutrition.

Many tragedies at the hands of doctors would be avoided if people learned medical history at school...interesting how every other history is taught except medical. The only things you hear in public education is how the polio vaccine saved the world lol.

 

[Reverse]

Why do you think vaccines and antibiotics are linked to your pfs? I had a lot of vaccines plus a course of antibiotics around 9 months before using finasteride very briefly then crashing and having very bad pfs. What are your symptoms?

I've met people that had no vaccines and are now in their 20's. No health issues at all. Vaccines are farce. It's akin to sorcery and alchemy from the dark ages. Read line 13 of any vaccine insert, you can find it online...it states it's not tested for carinogenic or mutagenic effects.

 

[Reverse]

I think most people go crazy from low fat, low cholesterol, low amino acid diet.

I casually checked out what my co workers eat. A lot of grains (bread/toast), vegetable oils, fake sandwich spreads, some cheese, sugar, coffee.

That's it.

Most people are already on a plant-based diet without being a vegan! And companies are pushing it more and more. Today I read a Dutch ad "Plants are the new cows!".

A lot of people are starving and lacking nutrients. That is why they go crazy.

Agreed, homosapiens developed and evolved from a primarily plant based diet and meat was their secondary source. Probably a 70/30 ratio. Veganism and vegetarianism is a quack diet. It doesn't fully support the human body. People can survive without meat, but don't realize they are screwing themselves up slowly and ruining their chemical expression.

By the way, the evolutionary diversity of the human species was primarily driven by the food eaten from the ground.

 

[RebelWithACause]

Agreed, homosapiens developed and evolved from a primarily plant based diet and meat was their secondary source. Probably a 70/30 ratio. Veganism and vegetarianism is a quack diet. It doesn't fully support the human body. People can survive without meat, but don't realize they are screwing themselves up slowly and ruining their chemical expression.

By the way, the evolutionary diversity of the human species was primarily driven by the food eaten from the ground.

I think more likely other way around. 70 % meat, 30% plant. Plants are toxic for the most part. Especially for humans. Most plants we eat today are toxic in their natural forms. And even in the current forms (brocolli, kale, etc.) You would not be able to eat them. Same for natural fruit, a lot of seeds and very little fruit flesh. Plants are known to have a lot of anti-nutrients (which block mineral/nutrient absorption).

I think this is hard topic though. Some people think we ate primarily meat and others think plants.

 

[Niles]

Legitimate question for the anti-vaxxers:

What's a reasonable alternative?

Vaccines are clearly not without their faults, but surely the positives of preventing outbreaks of measles, smallpox, and polio outweigh the negatives of the exceptionally rare cases of vaccines causing serious side effects.

 

[Jaxx]

I think more likely other way around. 70 % meat, 30% plant. Plants are toxic for the most part. Especially for humans. Most plants we eat today are toxic in their natural forms. And even in the current forms (brocolli, kale, etc.) You would not be able to eat them. Same for natural fruit, a lot of seeds and very little fruit flesh. Plants are known to have a lot of anti-nutrients (which block mineral/nutrient absorption).

I think this is hard topic though. Some people think we ate primarily meat and others think plants.

Working for a crop science division myself, this is a theory i never heard before....for real

 

[RebelWithACause]

Working for a crop science division myself, this is a theory i never heard before....for real

Look up Brassica oleracea. That is the plant they made/bred kale, brocolli, all kinds of plants out of it. Try eating that plant.

Look at the original carrot. Toxic as fuck too.

Of course they are bred to be more edible. Does not mean they are healthy.

Most plant foods are crap sources of nutrition. Yet most people eat a lot of plants.

Plants fight off animals, bugs, etc. with toxins. Toxins that are still present in modern vegetables. It won't kill you but it is known that certain vegetable cause hypothyroidism for example.

 

[Reverse]

I think more likely other way around. 70 % meat, 30% plant. Plants are toxic for the most part. Especially for humans. Most plants we eat today are toxic in their natural forms. And even in the current forms (brocolli, kale, etc.) You would not be able to eat them. Same for natural fruit, a lot of seeds and very little fruit flesh. Plants are known to have a lot of anti-nutrients (which block mineral/nutrient absorption).

I think this is hard topic though. Some people think we ate primarily meat and others think plants.

While it is true that many plants are toxic...It would be very unlikely that human diversity eveloved from a primarily meat based diet. I'm speaking of the diversity of the species and not the existence of the species itself (you follow me?)

It's unlikely that the diverse gene pool found globally emerged from meat based diet due to the fact that meat for the most part provides the same bio chemical reactions and nutrition no matter what the source is. The other reason for the low possibility of a primary meat based diet is the energy consumption, time and risk in capturing enough meat to feed oneself and ones family.

To be continued...

 

[Jaxx]

Look up Brassica oleracea. That is the plant they made/bred kale, brocolli, all kinds of plants out of it. Try eating that plant.

Look at the original carrot. Toxic as fuck too.

Of course they are bred to be more edible. Does not mean they are healthy.

Most plant foods are crap sources of nutrition. Yet most people eat a lot of plants.

Plants fight off animals, bugs, etc. with toxins. Toxins that are still present in modern vegetables. It won't kill you but it is known that certain vegetable cause hypothyroidism for example.

Honestly, i think thats a myth, and not a very good one. Yes some plants have toxins, like spinach is known to absorb nitrate, from the soil that it. In the netherlands alot of veggies are already grown in the greenhouse, without soil and have very low level of pest control compared to the rest of the world.

The only thing that is a real issue is that vegetables are getting less nutritious over the last 20 years, because of how people are breeding. Meaning fast growing plants with alot of resistance traits for fungi, diseases etc. Most nutrients are however lost in the way we prepare our food, boiling them is no bueno, steaming is alot better.

And i agree that vegetarians are not healty, eating 80% meat in your diet is likely to be even worse though.

 

[RebelWithACause]

While it is true that many plants are toxic...It would be very unlikely that human diversity eveloved from a primarily meat based diet. I'm speaking of the diversity of the species and not the existence of the species itself (you follow me?)

It's unlikely that the diverse gene pool found globally emerged from meat based diet due to the fact that meat for the most part provides the same bio chemical reactions and nutrition no matter what the source is. The other reason for the low possibility of a primary meat based diet is the energy consumption, time and risk in capturing enough meat to feed oneself and ones family.

To be continued...

I think plants were used as fuel to get the next hunt/kill. Or in times of famine. But you have to remember there were a lot more big animals in the past (megafauna) which could feed families.

A lot of people on high carb/plant-based diet have teeth problems. But when Weston Price looked at teeth of tribes (that ate primarily meat/low carb) they all had perfect teeth.
In nature you do not have dentist or big pharma to take care of you. Without teeth you would die.

 

[Reverse]

I think we should move further discussion of diets somewhere else. I just remembered this log belongs to the woman with balls and ovaries a.k.a Helen.

 

[Aflac94]

Vaccines weakened my health and set me up for PFS along with antibiotics, I know countless classmates who had their lives more or less ruined by autism and it gets worse every generation because the number of childhood vaccines keeps going up every year. Don't think you're safe as an adult either, my friend who was athletic now has trouble breathing after doing a required yearly vaccine because he is a nurse at a hospital and many of his coworkers have weird symptoms for weeks afterwards.

The promotion of vaccines is based on junk science like "60% of the people who got the flu shot in October didn't get the flu in December." That's over 50% which means it works! Most people don't know how ridiculous and corrupted "healthcare" is because they trust in the system and don't investigate and read the studies. The polio vaccine myth is still believed to this day.

"Lots of stuff that is genuinely beneficial"? I'm struggling to think of even one, occasionally prescribing vitamin D maybe? When doctors go on strike the death rate goes down so drastically the people running morgues go bankrupt and commit suicide.

Emergency room surgeons make more money than other types, could be because they're one of the few doctors which save lives. Or maybe they get paid more for killing the most, I don't know. But I think most people take medication because they don't have money to address the real issues, most can't just quit their job and take a lengthy vacation to get their health back in order.

Vaccines weren’t a good example for me to include.

But don’t overcompensate. There are situations when you want what modern medicine has figured out. If you become septic you can die, you want antibiotics despite the risks.

If you get in a car wreck and are bleeding internally. You want a surgeon.

There are some cancers, some leukemia’s that have like 80 cure rate with treatment and 0 % cure rate without. Testicular cancer is another example. You get this treated statically you always live. Don’t get it treated you will die.

There are tons of other examples when you want modern medicine. Tons.

Having said that there are tons of examples, as all of us know, when modern medicine harms people for all different reasons.

My point was , start trying to highlight the harms and get rid of that. This will be hard.

You just sound like someone people won’t take seriously or some conspiracy theorist if you start ranting how medicine has done nothing good etc. Even if it’s true you won’t accomplish anything towards the goal of making medicine safer if you just bash it. People won’t take you seriously