Safe use of anabolic steroids: is there any way?

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@Helen so athletes and gym freaks who want to use steroids to improve sports performance should instead take electrolytes and will achieve the same results? Do I understand this correctly?

One of my mentors who at the age of 94 still ran his own natural clinic claimed that the most important minerals and we need to largest quantities daily, are: Potassium, Calcium and Sodium. He said the rest of the minerals we need in very tiny amounts. He died in a car accident.. I wonder for how long he could of lived, he healed people by only using food.


those are the minerals which are usually lost in alkalosis.
 

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@Helen so athletes and gym freaks who want to use steroids to improve sports performance should instead take electrolytes and will achieve the same results? Do I understand this correctly?

One of my mentors who at the age of 94 still ran his own natural clinic claimed that the most important minerals and we need to largest quantities daily, are: Potassium, Calcium and Sodium. He said the rest of the minerals we need in very tiny amounts. He died in a car accident.. I wonder for how long he could of lived, he healed people by only using food.

I do not think you will get same result. Anabolic steroids work that is for sure. If minerals could do the same job all bodybuilders would be doing minerals.

But I do think with minerals and balance you can get good results, feel healthy, be strong, etc. Right now I feel pretty good. I have high DHT feeling. Especially after abstaining sex/masturbation for 2-3 days. But I am still interested in how to use steroids more safely since I do think there is benefits to them.
 

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Super-physiological hormone values ---> Increased output quantity, decreased recovery time, increased training frequency, increased returns to scale, decreased need for dietary restrictions (train non perfect, eat non perfect and still get insane results).

An Edge = an Edge, regardless what type it is.
 

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@Helen
So what is good general cycle with higher dose testosterone. So not TRT dosage. High dosage to get as much muscle as possible in 12 weeks or so.

Testosterone enanthate dosage and progesterone dosage?

What about PCT? High dosage potassium chloride + magnesium for a month?
 

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@Helen
So what is good general cycle with higher dose testosterone. So not TRT dosage. High dosage to get as much muscle as possible in 12 weeks or so.

Testosterone enanthate dosage and progesterone dosage?

What about PCT? High dosage potassium chloride + magnesium for a month?


There is no high dosage advantage. As I mentioned to you already. the most muscle building is when you have certain and steady release of nitric oxide.

That builds the muscle. Steroids just release nitric oxide. If the peak of steroids is too high, then you release nitric oxide too fast, and then you run low for the rest of the half life. So makes no sense.

High test dosages IMO is just waste. And in most cases to grow muscle you dont even need steroids. I bet the same could be achieved with cholesterol and NADPH precursors along with electrolytes.

The goal is to achieve high nitric oxide production along with steady releaser of that nitric oxide.

So basically the steroids work all depends on the ability of the body to produce nitric oxide.


Just think about, it i like the pump. If you pump something really hard once, that will grow very little. but if you keep that constant pressure on it will keep growing.

IMO it is very important to have as little of a testosterone spike as possible. And steady levels of slightly increased testosterone but only in case when you have that extra nitric oxide to be released. If not , then the whole cycle is just a waste. It will be just water retention.





Sports come with the muscles, like swimming or athletics, or fighting , etc. but with functional muscles

You keep coming back to steroids? are you a skinny ass dude or something? and you want to grow muscles? is this it?

What is the purpose of these steroids cycles for you? I mean you cant become a bodybuilder. Current bodybuilding is totally chemical. SO there is no way you can compete there unless you really fuck yourself up with some serious drugs.

I know some skinny dudes try to grow normal frame on steroids. In this your case. I would just use TRT. Short cycles wont do crap. You need a perpetual safe long cycle. for years to grow the different frame.
 
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@Helen could u please elaborate on this, like what/how actually can this be done?

Eat fats and support electrolytes including phosphorus and b vitramins to make NADPH. Also eat meat.

In russia they eat bear oil.

I cycled NADPH precursors for 2 weeks. And in 2 weeks. the hair on my hands doubled. Body hair went insane. All the knee caps, everything got totally hairy. Hand and arms got new hairs all over the place.

Body hair just doubled. So it works big time.


When I crashed on FIn this time. My hair fells out even on my legs. all of sudden a side of my leg just had no hair. Now only 3 weeks later. it is more hairy then before Fin double. And the hair on my hands grew in places where it was not there before.
 

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I should stay away from Bear Oil then.
Already Manscaping too much as it is.
Bear Oil does sound bad ass tho!!!

"Hey, what is that you're adding to your Coffee?!" Bear Oil.

Bear Oil and Tiger Blood =Intense Euphoric Power ?
Body hair facial hair leg hair all hair maybe way less fast growing 9-17 months ago from fin crash. Even 5 mo ago less. So fast now.

I shaved my hands (fingers by wrist a bit a tiny bit). And arms, chest, back, sides, etc., I like looking nubile and Lythe.
 
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No you, guy! I'm perfectly smooth 80%+ of the time. WIth grooming.
No lol not nearly that much.
But when I shaved my arms and all ppl noticed.... Lots of "Gay!!!" Comments. From friends... Jokingly. No one insulting me there, they know better.

Not an ape!! A WEREWOLF probably.
A VAMPIRE - more APTLY. Not a teen trashy homoerotic novel vampire either. Haha.

Mostly my wrists chest arms and legs, sometimes I rock the porn stache tho.
I did get laser but it would take too many sessions. Burns like a bitch... But kind of feels good too. I got it on shoulders around back and front that's the worst place to get it... Feels like 1000 needles.

Re: @Helen (Eliana) said:
@MNK is this you bud? hairy hand (link)


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Eat fats and support electrolytes including phosphorus and b vitramins to make NADPH. Also eat meat.

In russia they eat bear oil.

I cycled NADPH precursors for 2 weeks. And in 2 weeks. the hair on my hands doubled. Body hair went insane. All the knee caps, everything got totally hairy. Hand and arms got new hairs all over the place.

Body hair just doubled. So it works big time.


When I crashed on FIn this time. My hair fells out even on my legs. all of sudden a side of my leg just had no hair. Now only 3 weeks later. it is more hairy then before Fin double. And the hair on my hands grew in places where it was not there before.

I gotta try this and see if I can finally grow a sick viking beard :p
 

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Shaving sixty times a week gets old man.
1-3 days Shadow is good. But I have Perma-Shadow.
 
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There is no high dosage advantage. As I mentioned to you already. the most muscle building is when you have certain and steady release of nitric oxide.

That builds the muscle. Steroids just release nitric oxide. If the peak of steroids is too high, then you release nitric oxide too fast, and then you run low for the rest of the half life. So makes no sense.

High test dosages IMO is just waste. And in most cases to grow muscle you dont even need steroids. I bet the same could be achieved with cholesterol and NADPH precursors along with electrolytes.

The goal is to achieve high nitric oxide production along with steady releaser of that nitric oxide.

So basically the steroids work all depends on the ability of the body to produce nitric oxide.


Just think about, it i like the pump. If you pump something really hard once, that will grow very little. but if you keep that constant pressure on it will keep growing.

IMO it is very important to have as little of a testosterone spike as possible. And steady levels of slightly increased testosterone but only in case when you have that extra nitric oxide to be released. If not , then the whole cycle is just a waste. It will be just water retention.





Sports come with the muscles, like swimming or athletics, or fighting , etc. but with functional muscles

You keep coming back to steroids? are you a skinny ass dude or something? and you want to grow muscles? is this it?

What is the purpose of these steroids cycles for you? I mean you cant become a bodybuilder. Current bodybuilding is totally chemical. SO there is no way you can compete there unless you really fuck yourself up with some serious drugs.

I know some skinny dudes try to grow normal frame on steroids. In this your case. I would just use TRT. Short cycles wont do crap. You need a perpetual safe long cycle. for years to grow the different frame.

Right now I am not interested in using them. I am taking creatine which helps.

I want to be able to use every tool in the arsenal. If there is a safe way for steroids then why not? It has benefits IMO. Fast recovery is one.

I am tall so I looked filled out on steroids. Without steroids I look like normal guy in clothing. Maybe a bit more muscular then average. I think steroids enhance the gym/MMA experience. Fast recovery, big pumps and fast growth. Plus after HEAVY/max training you still have ton of energy to do things.

I am collecting information for in the future. Thanks for explaining and the information.
 

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Right now I am not interested in using them. I am taking creatine which helps.

I want to be able to use every tool in the arsenal. If there is a safe way for steroids then why not? It has benefits IMO. Fast recovery is one.

I am tall so I looked filled out on steroids. Without steroids I look like normal guy in clothing. Maybe a bit more muscular then average. I think steroids enhance the gym/MMA experience. Fast recovery, big pumps and fast growth. Plus after HEAVY/max training you still have ton of energy to do things.

I am collecting information for in the future. Thanks for explaining and the information.


HIgh test cycles, will kill your endurance. It is not for MMA or boxing or other aerobic sports.

I have guys do them and sit on high dose test for months. They are all lethargic mostly and also zero endurance. Runs 100 meters and just die


Test inhibits progesterone production, which makes you lethargic and weak. if test is too high.

the calculated dosage of test will not have these sides.and can actually increase the strength.
 

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HIgh test cycles, will kill your endurance. It is not for MMA or boxing or other aerobic sports.

I have guys do them and sit on high dose test for months. They are all lethargic mostly and also zero endurance. Runs 100 meters and just die


Test inhibits progesterone production, which makes you lethargic and weak. if test is too high.

the calculated dosage of test will not have these sides.and can actually increase the strength.

Yes most MMA guys use dry compounds (DHT-based) and lower short-ester dosages. Sometimes even only DHT I think. This guy in high level MMA was caught with Turinabol in his body.
Guy I know from MMA used deca. Seemed to work well for him. But I am not touching progestins.
 

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Friend of mine is very muscular. People thought he used steroids. But I know 100% he does not. He builds muscle so easy it is crazy. Only goes to gym 3 days a week. Parties. Uses a lot of drugs (MDMA, cocaine, alcohol). He does eat OK but also a lot of junkfood. He does not even high calorie surplus. He does not do bodybuilding. And he is not balanced I can guarantee. Even when he took break from gym and just partied and used harddrugs, drank he was bigger then most people I know with more muscle. He was bigger then me (before touching steroids) eventhough I trained my ass off and did no drinking/partying LOL.

He is outlier. Most people I know do not build muscle like he does. I guess he has alpha male genetics.

When I do not train for a few months I will have lost most of my muscle.

Only way to compete with that type of muscle building is anabolic steroids. I see it as tool in the toolkit. A tool to compete with people who have outlier genetics.
 

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Friend of mine is very muscular. People thought he used steroids. But I know 100% he does not. He builds muscle so easy it is crazy. Only goes to gym 3 days a week. Parties. Uses a lot of drugs (MDMA, cocaine, alcohol). He does eat OK but also a lot of junkfood. He does not even high calorie surplus. He does not do bodybuilding. And he is not balanced I can guarantee. Even when he took break from gym and just partied and used harddrugs, drank he was bigger then most people I know with more muscle. He was bigger then me (before touching steroids) eventhough I trained my ass off and did no drinking/partying LOL.

He is outlier. Most people I know do not build muscle like he does. I guess he has alpha male genetics.

When I do not train for a few months I will have lost most of my muscle.

Only way to compete with that type of muscle building is anabolic steroids. I see it as tool in the toolkit. A tool to compete with people who have outlier genetics.

Cut his hair when he sleeps and secretly do a hairtest.

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