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I like Elliot Hulse but I disagree with him here.

There is not 1 definition.

It does not have to be morally right to be alpha male. You can be villain and be alpha male. You can be psychopath serial killer and be alpha male.

It is a state of mind. People who are alpha male dominate environment and people around them.

You can be biggest cunt on earth and still be an alpha male.

You do not have to be in balance to be alpha male (feminine/masculine).

You think Genghis Khan was not an alpha male?

A lot of alpha males are savages and some even tyrants. It also depends on intelligence level.
 

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This is a young alpha @ 1:50:


You see he does not apologise, is calm, does not give a fuck.

This is alpha mindset.

Beta would be apologising, emotional, etc.

He is low life scum but he is still alpha.
 

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This is a young alpha:


alpha is balanced state. All people who try to be alpha actually trying to be beta

Alphas dont dominate environment with stupidity LOL and aggressiveness,

Alpha are the balanced state, most powerful, with the most energy. that happens only in the middle.

You talk about beta males.

Usually people who i meet , who even talk about this alpha beta thing are tethas)) They want to be alpha and mix alpha with beta, in reality they are tethas and it is only their dream to become beta, which they think it is alpha.

Most power is in the middle, not on the sides.

You go further to any of the sides, aggression or depression and you get weak, and not alpha at all.
 
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alpha is balanced state. All people who try to be alpha actually trying to be beta

Alphas dont dominate environment with stupidity LOL and aggressiveness,

Alpha are the balanced state, most powerful, with the most energy. that happens only in the middle.

You talk about beta males.

Alpha male is male on top of food chain. I think there are aggressive alpha males and calmer alpha males. It is how he is perceived by his peers that makes him alpha or beta.

Now alpha male characteristics are definitely: calm, aggressive if needed, strong, big (depends), socially savvy, etc.

I personally think it is wide range of possibilities.
 
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I never seen a beta male dominate anything.

beta males are bouncers, who do the dirty work for their boss, who is calm and balanced and never does aggressive moves with stupid emotions. Very calculative smart and might not have any muscles.

So those bouncers beat up regular people, and do alpha males assignments. on the street they look super alpha. to people who dont know what alpha is. But their boss controls them.

Actually I like the ROCK. Dwayne Johnson, I think his nervous system is nicely balanced from what I have seen.

Very succesful in business, strong at the same time, very kind person and intelligent. Good guy IMO , somebody like him is alpha in my mind.

And he will always apologize if he does wrong.

Alpha mindset to be an asshole? no , that is beta, aggressive stupid bouncer. high sodium potassium ratio.
 

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beta males are bouncers, who do the dirty work for their boss, who is calm and balanced and never does aggressive moves with stupid emotions. Very calculative smart and might not have any muscles.

So those bouncers beat up regular people, and do alpha males assignments. on the street they look super alpha. to people who dont know what alpha is. But their boss controls them.

Actually I like the ROCK. Dwayne Johnson, I think his nervous system is nicely balanced from what I have seen.

Very succesful in business, strong at the same time, very kind person and intelligent. Good guy IMO , somebody like him is alpha in my mind.

Yea he is on high amounts of androgens. He is also big and muscular, intimidating. This allows him to be friendlier and act less intimidating. He is definitely alpha male.
 

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Yea he is on high amounts of androgens. He is also big and muscular, intimidating. This allows him to be friendlier and act less intimidating. He is definitely alpha male.


Dude his best characteristics are intelligence in business, and kindness, zero aggression, he is like a kid , a good kid from a good family , who helps his mom with stuff. that is alpha male. and possesses a lot of LOVE for the others.

And aggressive assholes are beta males, wanna be alphas. like the kid you posted. that has nothing to do with alpha, that is a typical beta kid, probably will work as a liquor store security after he grows up.
 

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Dude his best characteristics are intelligence in business, and kindness, zero aggression, he is like a kid , a good kid from a good family , who helps his mom with stuff. that is alpha male. and possesses a lot of LOVE for the others.

And aggressive assholes are beta males, wanna be alphas. like the kid you posted. that has nothing to do with alpha, that is a typical beta kid, probably will work as a liquor store security after he grows up.

I don't agree what you say about the kid. Yes he is stupid and low IQ. But his behaviour is alpha. It is "take it or leave it" attitude. Which is core trait of alpha male.

You can call him scum but he has alpha mind.

The Rock has beta traits (smiles too much, overly nice) but because he is big and intimidating looking he can get away with it.

Beta's are afraid and lash out from fear. Alpha can be calm and aggressive and tyrant-like. It is from a position of power. Beta is from position of fear.

Alpha mindset to me = take it or leave it. Beta is supplicating to people and making them want to like you.
 

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I don't agree what you say about the kid. Yes he is stupid and low IQ. But his behaviour is alpha. It is "take it or leave it" attitude. Which is core trait of alpha male.

You can call him scum but he has alpha mind.

The Rock has beta traits (smiles too much, overly nice) but because he is big and intimidating looking he can get away with it.

Beta's are afraid and lash out from fear. Alpha can be calm and aggressive and tyrant-like. It is from a position of power. Beta is from position of fear.

take it or leave it attitude is denial attidude, this is not alpha.

betas are agressive, Tethas are afraid. Alpha is in the middle.


Bullies like that kid happen in highschools, all the time. Those are beta males. aggressive loud, pick on people.

Alpha males is quite, and balanced. and BUSY. And when a beta male picks on him with his aggression, ALPHA male just kills him and then beta males becomes a little bouncer for the alpha male.

The strongest people in school, high school are the busy , on their own mind quiet people. Loud stupid take it or leave it , usually get their ass handed to them if they attack those kinds of males.
 

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I don't like the words alpha and beta in the first place, they automatically indicate superiority, when usually there is none. The scrawny nerdy middle aged man with a nice family and a job he is passionate about is in my book far superior to the guy who spends his whole life picking up chicks in clubs and never advances beyond that. Even though society would say the latter is alpha and the former is beta.

Obviously ideally you want to work on yourself physically and mentally
 

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I’ve experienced weakest of weak. I’ve experienced a high dht environment from TRT. I’ve also experienced a great time period post 21 day fast with electrolytes, betaine hcl pushing m .

My most alpha is when my cortisol feels strongest. When cortisol feels strong and I have enough of it, body can handle so much stress. Body wakes up with plenty of energy but not too much. It’s a strong wake up feeling. Anxiety non existent.

On TRT, pregnenoline, t3 (pre pfs) although I had a lot of mycoplasma present likely, it was more of a fake alpha. Horny as all hell but just a nervous person talking to people. Wasn’t in the moment.

Let’s call it electrolytes, betaine hcl bruschi last winter when I felt my most alpha. I was in the moment. Being in the moment where you don’t need anything but yourself to feel strong. You don’t need alcohol or any type of drug to make yourself fit the atmosphere.

You know you’re the best thing in the atmosphere and you appreciate being yourself.
 

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alpha is balanced state. All people who try to be alpha actually trying to be beta

Alphas dont dominate environment with stupidity LOL and aggressiveness,

Alpha are the balanced state, most powerful, with the most energy. that happens only in the middle.

You talk about beta males.

Usually people who i meet , who even talk about this alpha beta thing are tethas)) They want to be alpha and mix alpha with beta, in reality they are tethas and it is only their dream to become beta, which they think it is alpha.

Most power is in the middle, not on the sides.

You go further to any of the sides, aggression or depression and you get weak, and not alpha at all.
Yes

The alpha state is self evident

Take a look at Roger Federer, king of professional tennis. He's a friendly charming quiet guy, but he wins. He wins against loud mouths and crazies. People change the tournaments for him and give him the best times to play at night etc because they want him to be there to draw in the crowds.

Overly Aggressive = dumb and short sighted
You need aggressiveness but in just the right amount at just the right moments


Federer is an alpha plus (lol huxleys brave new world)
 

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This can be endless discussion. I never try to be alpha. Some days I feel alpha (calm, confident, energetic) and some days I feel less alpha.

Especially when I train too much and too heavy I become anxious and aggressive. But when I am resting good amount and eating enough calories and healthy food I get alpha male feeling. It is contentment with myself and also confidence to just walk up to people, no neuroticism.

So it does come from within. And I think some days you can feel alpha and other days opposite.
 

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Yes

The alpha state is self evident

Take a look at Roger Federer, king of professional tennis. He's a friendly charming quiet guy, but he wins. He wins against loud mouths and crazies. People change the tournaments for him and give him the best times to play at night etc because they want him to be there to draw in the crowds.

Overly Aggressive = dumb and short sighted
You need aggressiveness but in just the right amount at just the right moments


Federer is an alpha plus (lol huxleys brave new world)

yes, very good example March. I think Federer is a pure example of alpha male. All these people are so confused what alpha is.

Alpha can enjoy all aspect of life , smile be nice , but in needed moments will outperform idiotic aggressive crazies who think the side is better than the middle.
 

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Tyler Durden is THE Alpha male

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P.S. the music in that movie is fucking insane, anyone know any songs that sound like that?

One of the best. Have you read the book? I thought the movie was great until I read the book. In the right hands, that is a very dangerous book.. Every 16y should be forced to read it.
 

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Yes

The alpha state is self evident

Take a look at Roger Federer, king of professional tennis. He's a friendly charming quiet guy, but he wins. He wins against loud mouths and crazies. People change the tournaments for him and give him the best times to play at night etc because they want him to be there to draw in the crowds.

Overly Aggressive = dumb and short sighted
You need aggressiveness but in just the right amount at just the right moments


Federer is an alpha plus (lol huxleys brave new world)

What is it about tennis players? Federer, Djokovic, Nadal, they all seem like thoroughly decent guys. Whereas football players seem like arrogant pricks most of the time
 

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What is it about tennis players? Federer, Djokovic, Nadal, they all seem like thoroughly decent guys. Whereas football players seem like arrogant pricks most of the time

football players , it depends on the position. Some football players , the good ones are extremely intelligent and nice. Since you simply cant dominate if you are not balanced. YOU can be strong but stupid= zero domination. Some stupid players can be used in football, but Tennis players are more rounded. and doubt a stupid player can dominate in tennis.
 

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One of the best. Have you read the book? I thought the movie was great until I read the book. In the right hands, that is a very dangerous book.. Every 16y should be forced to read it.

No i havent, looking at it now online. Ill give it a shot, probably will read it till the end of the month before the school strats. Thanks for advice :D