ZINC FINGER THEORY DISCUSSION for PFS - 2 cases

[barbaar]

Maybe we need a wiki or something. That way we'll be able to organize all information in a clear, coherent way so people won't ask the same thing 100 times.

 

[Shanks]

Maybe we need a wiki or something. That way we'll be able to organize all information in a clear, coherent way so people won't ask the same thing 100 times.

Best comment of the day

 

[Helen]

Then what are you doing exactly? Because then it wont be helping anyone and we will still be guessing and trying 100 supplements. Possibly screwing ourselves over even more by taking the wrong stuff. Not everyone is able to afford all of those tests.

For some miraculous reason you think I come to this forum to balance people? I am part of this forum to give ideas. I told people they could use some protocols that I outlined already, and then I gave them another way to go and get balanced with ARL.

Look at Ray Peat he wrote articles, and then people are testing his ideas, he has no protocols. Because in reality there are no protocols.

I said to people to fast and TAKE NOTHING.,

the mineral protocol is experimental, I took couple of people and fixed them. it does not mean that I have time to take everyone here and fix them too.

This is why I said if you want to try to get balanced go on ARL. otherwise I have no protocols. i take NOTHING< and I advice for people to take NOTHING


This is what I PREACHED at RAY PEAT FORUM. that anything you take , you get screwed up with , since your knowledge of the body chemistry is limited. And that is why it is bad to take hormones or anything else. And that the only thing that works for most people is fasting. Since it is anti MUTATION

And you are asking me about some protocols? WTH? Read what I said on Ray Peat forum. I suggested people used RU and Ella, and some were really helped by it. I suggested some programs for slow oxidizers and many were helped by it like @Goose12 Aztec and others.


I gave many paths to get cured for people. Now it is their choice what to do.

 

[wuf]

For some miraculous reason you think I come to this forum to balance people? I am part of this forum to give ideas. I told people they could use some protocols that I outlined already, and then I gave them another way to go and get balanced with ARL.
Look at Rat Peat he wrote articles, and then people are testing his ideas, he has no protocols. Because in reality there are no protocols.
I said to people to fast and TAKE NOTHING.,
the mineral protocol is experimental, I took couple of people and fixed them. it does not mean that I have time to take everyone here and fix them too.
This is why I said if you want to try to get balanced go on ARL. otherwise I have no protocols. i take NOTHING< and I advice for people to take NOTHING

Ok, there is no end to this conversation since both of you are right.
It is obvious gbolduev doesn't want/feel to fix everyone (even if in my opinion it would take less time than what he has already spent here <Thank you for that>)
But it is also obvious people will not be able to replicate a protocol or theories he suggested over here since it is too difficult for a normal person without chemistry studies or experiences.
Said this he suggests us to go to ARL, but I know how things go and 90% of people will not go to ARL since, ARL is not specific for PFS and we don't want to risk to be messed up even more.

Said this, what else to say? LOL

 

[Helen]

Ok, there is no end to this conversation since both of you are right.
It is obvious gbolduev doesn't want/feel to fix everyone (even if in my opinion it would take less time than what he has already spent here <Thank you for that>)
But it is also obvious people will not be able to replicate a protocol or theories he suggested over here since it is too difficult for a normal person without chemistry studies or experiences.
Said this he suggests us to go to ARL, but I know how things goes and 90% of people will not go to ARL since, ARL is not specific for PFS and we don't want to risck to be messed up even more.

Said this, what else to say? LOL

ARL is specific to PFS. since ARL will change your body chemistry to ideal PH.

I dont know how to explain it to you . ARL does the same as I am doing with mineral balancing. You go on CDNUTts protocols and take random crap and you are afraid to fuck yourself on ARL? this is funny. ARL give you specific stuff for your particular body chemistry.

 

[wuf]

ARL is specific to PFS. since ARL will change your body chemistry to idea PH.

And how does it work?
You contact them they ask you what's your symptoms? Then you tell them you symptoms and they start telling you what supplements to take?

 

[Helen]

And how does it work?
You contact them they ask you what's your symptoms? Then you tell them you symptoms and they start telling you what supplements to take?

What? LOL they see your hairtest and computer calculates your program and gives you the program. That program is specific to you , and will be different than for another person

 

[Steve]

What? LOL they see your hairtest and computer calculates your program and gives you the program. That program is specific to you , and will be different than for another person

Gbolduev thanks for the info re protein shake and electrolytes.

Can you just name the electrolytes which we need? Are they potassium chloride, magnesium chloride and sodium chloride? Is sodium chloride always require? Please confirm for fullness for protocol for me.

 

[Helen]

@Nina The reason I am talking about ARL since I understood that 80% dont understand anything that I say, and I cant repeat and repeat basic stuff over and over again. and People still won't understand any of it and still will screw themselves over. this is why there are really 3 ways here

1) fasting and then refeed using the diet I and MattyB outlined using electrolytes)
2) ARL
3) for those who understand what I write, you can try the protocol that were outlined for PFS ( alkalosis protocols, amino acids, with minerals)

 

[Steve]

@Nina The reason I am talking about ARL since I understood that 80% dont understand anything that I say, and I cant repeat and repeat basic stuff over and over again. and People still won't understand any of it and still will screw themselves over. this is why there are really 3 ways here

1) fasting and then refeed using the diet I and MattyB outlined using electrolytes)
2) ARL
3) for those who understand what I write, you can try the protocol that were outlined for PFS ( alkalosis protocols, amino acids, with minerals)

For the amino acids plus electrolytes protocol, can you please confirm whether sodium chloride is one of them?

 

[Helen]

For the amino acids plus electrolytes protocol, can you please confirm whether sodium chloride is one of them?

It depends on the type of alkalosis, if you have low sodium in blood, then you will need, if you have high sodium in blood , you wont.

 

[Slayo]

some people are so skinny from pfs and can't get any weight because their digestion can't even deal with 1500 calories, and they can't take digestive enzymes because it irritates their stomach....those people obviously haven't enough body weight to fast even for 3 days

 

[Steve]

It depends on the type of alkalosis, if you have low sodium in blood, then you will need, if you have high sodium in blood , you wont.

If we take it when we have high sodium in blood, can it make us worse or it won’t make a difference?

 

[MNK99]

This has certainly taken a turn.

 

[Nina]

@Nina The reason I am talking about ARL since I understood that 80% dont understand anything that I say, and I cant repeat and repeat basic stuff over and over again. and People still won't understand any of it and still will screw themselves over. this is why there are really 3 ways here

1) fasting and then refeed using the diet I and MattyB outlined using electrolytes)
2) ARL
3) for those who understand what I write, you can try the protocol that were outlined for PFS ( alkalosis protocols, amino acids, with minerals)

Thanks for the clarification.

 

[Steve]

If we take it when we have high sodium in blood, can it make us worse or it won’t make a difference?

@gbolduev please confirm this final point and I’ll be another recovery to the list in a month.

Already cracked a fat at the beach today over a nice milf changing near me.

 

[MNK99]

Milfs are the universal cure @Steve.

 

[mattyb]

If someone with PFS/PSSD has a recent blood electrolyte test, suffers from muscle weakness and/or cognitive problems, and is willing to try out a few things - PM me and include your blood test results.

 

[wuf]

If someone with PFS/PSSD has a recent blood electrolyte test, suffers from muscle weakness and/or cognitive problems, and is willing to try out a few things - PM me and include your blood test results.

I tried to PM you but it is impossible for me to PM you...maybe some administrator issue going on?
I receive a message telling me I can't PM you.

 

[Helen]

This has certainly taken a turn.

this has taken a turn, since I realize that most people here dont understand 80% of what I say. And they will be harming themselves. This is why I said on Ray peat Forum not to take anything at all. It is better not to take anything for people who dont know than to take random stuff.

Like Steve is asking me if in volume expansion alkalosis , if he will be harmed by taking sodium. you see even if I outline protocols, it will be impossible for people to follow them.

yes, Steve it will be harmful.