Electrolyte Protocol for Improved Health

[MNK99]

For the simplified version: cooked spinach and uncooked spinach both are fine, right?
Like post workout, [a protein shake blended with uncooked spinach] and then Betaine HCL (in water) and [KCl +MgCl₂] + gelatin.
Maybe collagen/gelatin inside the shake as well?

 

[Shanks]

For the simplified version: cooked spinach and uncooked spinach both are fine, right?
Like post workout, [a protein shake blended with uncooked spinach] and then Betaine HCL (in water) and [KCl +MgCl] + gelatin.
Maybe collagen/gelatin inside the shake as well?

Uncooked spinach is problematic because of oxalic acid i think. But i also think it depends how much/often you eat it

 

[Aleksandr]

@gbolduev does low phosphorous on the hair test mean inability to digest protein? This could be a good diagnostic for our users to see if they need hcl with their proteins if so

 

[Canari]

Lordes water is water from a place in France .there is a huge line of people to drink it , It has really high levels of hydrogen gas plus really high levels of minerals. they get cured from everything. cancers, etc.

Lordes machine is just some machine that makes hydrogen water. they called it lordes after that french spot

It is LOURDES.
This has even become a spanish first name...
My uncle was actually saved by this water.

 

[Canari]

Hard to remember exactly, was like 1-1.5 yrs ago, but it should have been after food and im thinking if i havent had little ACV as seasoning, not really sure about the latter. And that effect lasting for hours was after just 1 tab.

I can stand more HCl since stopping ACV.
What is strange is that I go on belching often. All day. No link to meals. And no burn after eating but a few hours after.

 

[Canari]

@gbolduev does low phosphorous on the hair test mean inability to digest protein? This could be a good diagnostic for our users to see if they need hcl with their proteins if so

Interesting question!

 

[Canari]

Canari, how often are you vomiting? If I'm not mistaken, I've seen you mention it a few times. WTF??? This is a serious symptom! I know nothing about anything, but I do know that if I vomited cheese, I would not eat that cheese anymore. And I think I would stop taking ANYTHING, salts included. What do you think is causing your vomiting?

Thanks for your concern! I made myself vomit on purpose to empty my painful stomach and be able to sleep.
So my concern is to know if this is from too much acid or not enough. I drink no alcohol for the same reason. Stomach burn when lying in bed after.
I have burn also if I bend while gardening.

The strange thing is I can have a reflux that burn amigdalas then eat, suggesting too much acid from 2 hcl, then eat without hcl at 5pm, go to bed at 9 and then empty my stomach at 1am. Not only it was not acid but the cheese gave me a very nice flavor = no digestion suggesting low acid!
@mattyb any idea?

 

[bruschi11]

i honestly do not understand my PFS i can eat anything and everything i want and do not put weight on, i respond to no treatments. For instance i tried doing liver flushes with epsom salts drank 5 cups full nothing just like drinking warm water. i was taking 1mg armidex a day which should of crashed my estrogen did noting.... dont respond to zinc or any other amino acid betanine HCL does nothing as well .

all hormone treatments do nothing 300mg prog for 2 weeks did not feel any different its like im immune for supplements and yet i can work a full time job . kind of hilarious but worrying at the same time casue how can i fix myself if nothing helps

injecting 1000mg of test a week ( this is when i first had pfs) did not even get any benefit and my estrogen did not even budge one bit

Hang in there man. We are going to figure this out.

But seems like something is wrong if you can’t put any weight on. Have you had hair mineral test done? Might be smart in your case and then work from there.

 

[mattyb]

For the simplified version: cooked spinach and uncooked spinach both are fine, right?
Like post workout, [a protein shake blended with uncooked spinach] and then Betaine HCL (in water) and [KCl +MgCl] + gelatin.
Maybe collagen/gelatin inside the shake as well?

Cooked or uncooked is fine.

 

[MNK99]

Nice. thx man @mattyb.

 

[Legna88]

It is LOURDES.
This has even become a spanish first name...
My uncle was actually saved by this water.

from where he got the water, how much he drank per day?

 

[supernature]

I can stand more HCl since stopping ACV.

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[Legna88]

if this is 'all about hydrogen', why not use Hydrogen Peroxide therapy?

 

[Canari]

I might have to give it a try again, since not so sure did i used any ACV at same day or not. What is clear was that diluted my stomach acid so bad or suppressed the acid production of the stomach for 5+ hours.

I do not understand how taking acid can dilute your acid or stop yours. But indeed I experienced a blocked digestión.

I think the problem for me was from having a bit more fat than usual.

Also with high protein I feel necessity to eat only twice per day big meals. I do not pass my apetite though. Protein stays longer in stomach. I feel some burn 4 or 5 hours after eating. So maybe i need more acid taken at this moment?

I have good energy with less hunger.

 

[Nina]

@gbolduev can u make a post of your diet for a week (calories, macros) + exercise? Would be interesting to see.

 

[Legna88]

what does ''tons of protein'' or ''high protein'' intake mean in grams/day? 1g/kg/day, 2g/kg/day, 3g/kg/day or 4g/kg/day?

 

[HerrFisch]

@Legna88 read the protocol at first page, it is all there.

3) Diet

30% carbs, 50 protein, 20 fat. Vary this by increasing carbs with physical activity. If you sit at home and move less eat less carbs, if you move more eat more carbs.

But in my case that would be ~400g protein.
So I would rather say 2g/kg/day is a good amount.

I think for people consuming over 2000kcal a day, its impossible to use this 30,50,20 suggestion. Tbh

 

[RebelWithACause]

Betaine HCl drains my motivation and energy. After reading it lowers dopamine I understand why. My stomach feels better though. I see it as something I will use short term. Long term I do not like it.

 

[MNK99]

WTF @RebelWithACause It does? I'll read about that.

 

[TubZy]

It seems some people as well feel great on the rest of protocol while dropping betaine HCL from it, maybe from tanking potassium too much. @happenstance

While others feel good on high doses