Willylong98
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Guys my doctor is freaking out because I have tested higher than he has ever heard of a male testing. My estrogen on RU tested at 11806 on a scale of <160. What in the fuck??
Got estrogen bloodwork while on RU486
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You are on TRT too right, so your E would be probably high than most people here (or be more consistent). Estrogen rises on RU because you are blocking progesterone which was antagonizing the estrogen in your system (instead of DHT). You take RU, you block progesterone, then this frees up estrogen and boom high estrogen. Now with the snap back DHT should rise of become more sensitive and will try to antagonize the estrogen instead of the progesterone, which you want. You are PFS right?
That is a little risky getting bloodwork with a doc that doesn't know you are on RU though, prob should have waited until you were off it unless the doc was working with you.
That is a little risky getting bloodwork with a doc that doesn't know you are on RU though, prob should have waited until you were off it unless the doc was working with you.
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Haha, good point. I thought that said 1100 not 11,000, holy shit. If that is accurate, that is crazy.
Edit: @Willylong98 are you on a cycle right with T at a high dose?
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Retest, as almost certainly that is wrong. Have you got high e sides like sensitive nips etc?
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I have the report myself man it’s insane
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Guys the thing is I have run higher testosterone before and had levels slightly above range. My but my levels here were eleven thousand. I just got retested a week later which is today so I will have the results tonorrow
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No sexual improvements at all from RU but energy improved abit
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Maybe safe but likely not beneficial. With RU, you are trying to fix an imbalance we have. PFS, PAS, PSSD- they are all just imbalances. You want to get back to balance- that is the goal.
With TRT, you are just creating separate imbalances within the system. Probably the worst thing you could do while taking a drug like that or doing the other protocols here is mess with TRT. You gotta get off it man. Sucks but the truth is the truth- if you can't get better while on it, you have a better shot of going clean and starting over again.
I did it- I'm now a lot better than I was on TRT (or was until I almost lost my testicle in a skiing accident last week). Look up "-JN-" on Propeciahelp too. He was a TRT guy for years during PFS and finally healed himself with treating pathogens and then using mineral balance- basically what we are doing here on hackstasis.
With TRT, you are just creating separate imbalances within the system. Probably the worst thing you could do while taking a drug like that or doing the other protocols here is mess with TRT. You gotta get off it man. Sucks but the truth is the truth- if you can't get better while on it, you have a better shot of going clean and starting over again.
I did it- I'm now a lot better than I was on TRT (or was until I almost lost my testicle in a skiing accident last week). Look up "-JN-" on Propeciahelp too. He was a TRT guy for years during PFS and finally healed himself with treating pathogens and then using mineral balance- basically what we are doing here on hackstasis.
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Everything affects everything. That's what everyone on this site really has to understand. I'm on antibiotics for the testacle right now- on my 4th day. I had a top 3 PFS morning erection the morning before I started the antibiotics. Dick has gone completely dead while on them. The antibiotics clearly aren't good for the gut, but I also see that in some way or form they are probably creating further imbalances to PFS.
Some guys take antibiotics and get sexual improvements. We are all different- it all depends on the person. Everything affects everything is the lesson that needs to be learned here. We don't want to mess with natural balance of the system- and TRT messes with this drastically.
I just can't wait to get off these antibiotics and then fast for a few days lol this blows.
Some guys take antibiotics and get sexual improvements. We are all different- it all depends on the person. Everything affects everything is the lesson that needs to be learned here. We don't want to mess with natural balance of the system- and TRT messes with this drastically.
I just can't wait to get off these antibiotics and then fast for a few days lol this blows.
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Yeah but until any of you cure yourselves completely I’m not gonna let the situation takeover my life. I am on steroids for bodybuilding and they certainly don’t make me worse sexually. I am almost 20 I’m not gonna live my life watching everything I do constantly evaluating symptoms every single day like I’m at the point now where I am just accepting that my sexual function is fucked and I’m gonna try to move on with this until somewhere here cures themselves completely. Like ihatefin is cured but no one else has really gotta there as far as I know, I don’t care about improvements people make because I’m made huge sexual improvements before but they don’t last and certainly aren’t like they were before all of this. I have had this since I was 16 years old and am trying to move on with life. Once a recovery protocol comes out and it’s cured many guys I’d be glad to do it but I can’t keep experimenting different protocols it drives me insane and depressed. I just have to forget and accept my situation. I will continue to use RU another time but if it doesn’t cure me I’m gonna stay off this site for a while and hope you guys figure it out. I don’t mean this in a rude way I just can’t take the constant different protocols being thrown around never knowing which will work ect. It stresses me out. I thank you all contributing to figuring this out but I just need to try to live like a normal kid my age and stop letting this takeover my mind 24/7
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@Willylong98 Why are you taking TRT if it's not a protocol? I get that it can get depressing trialling one thing after another but that doesn't mean you should just act like nothing is wrong and risk your health further
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This is your option... you could be cured by 21, 22 and have your whole life ahead of you without having to worry about this again. Or you could keep on trying to use bandaids till your 40 and your life fucking blows thinking about this shit all the way until then.
Honestly grow up, be a man, and do what's best for you long term is my best advice. It doesn't matter to me though man its your life, no more arguing from me.
Man I can't even speculate how that's up to that level...
Look, RU kills prog... I can see how that would affect cortisol or something in that level of hormones...
Testosterone converts to estrogen but even if you were injecting 750mg a week of test, even at 1/3 conversion over to estrogen, I'm calculating high 200's... (double the level he's stating should be less than 160ng/dl )
I 100% believe your paperwork... does it say Estradiol (E1, E2 & or E3) ? There's a new 'ultra sensitive' way to test... it has to be picking up something that it thinks is estrogen.
Again just my opinion... you'd absolutely have nipple tingles in those numbers... other signs of high estrogen are over all body tingles at weird points throughout the day (kinda like pins and needles), change in libido and ED, obviously...
I'd ask for a re-test in a different fashion... sent to a different lab for example...
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Don’t get me wrong I agree, but I still don’t see what’s stopping me from accomplishing that while self administering testosterone? I use them because I am a bodybuilder and plan on making a career out of it. What would you recommend I should start doing to better my situation besides RU while on trt? I get regular bloodwork and take vitamin d b12 and probiotics. I have zinc copper magnesium cysteine histidine but don’t know what to do with anything or where to start. If I could cure myself then I would come off of trt but until then I’m gonna keep using , is that really that bad? I appreciate the help sorry for being salty earlier