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Some of those I've done it in mental hospital.
Some I want to repeat.
Potassium and sodium are on one of this exams I've posted here somewhere( they are within the range).
When you say thyroids panel you say tah t3 and t4 right?
Some I want to repeat.
Potassium and sodium are on one of this exams I've posted here somewhere( they are within the range).
When you say thyroids panel you say tah t3 and t4 right?
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Phosphorus and calcium are in the range.
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it is not about them being in range or not. I need to see them. the ratios.
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OK I'll ask for the potassium sodium and magnesium since I have phosphorus and calcium
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Only miss magnesium sodium and potassium are here.
Getting these done for you today for myself and hair test this week. Going to request every one. Hopefully the doctors arent awkward.
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--WORST CASE write in extras, apologize, get fired, find a new doc. I did this*. It was sad but also hilarious later. --I wasn't gonna wait 99 yrs!!! But yeah I only got some things tested not EVERYTHING. --I might in future but it sounds like a nightmare. Closer to my main city; far easier. Actually there's 2 tier system here for a lot of things; so maybe it's easier here; but you need to know people, and also have a General Practice Doc.
-I mean it's not easy to get tested/ but certainly possibly can be done. I'm doing it... I may be doing it. I could be doing it but I am not saying that I am. _it's good to do.
-N.B.*: Do not do this -- if you NEED that doctor or could get "fined" heavily/ or ruin reputation (like if you're a med student).
@Pedro melo - That Clinic has been in practice since 1959?? Holy Shyt!! I guess same thing all over asia and europe in many places too.
---actually generally that's bad advice/ do not do that unless you do not care and need a new doc anyways. Nice enough looking clinic just googled it.
-I mean it's not easy to get tested/ but certainly possibly can be done. I'm doing it... I may be doing it. I could be doing it but I am not saying that I am. _it's good to do.
-N.B.*: Do not do this -- if you NEED that doctor or could get "fined" heavily/ or ruin reputation (like if you're a med student).
@Pedro melo - That Clinic has been in practice since 1959?? Holy Shyt!! I guess same thing all over asia and europe in many places too.
---actually generally that's bad advice/ do not do that unless you do not care and need a new doc anyways. Nice enough looking clinic just googled it.
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Got them all except dht and b1 and b2. They wouldnt do them for me.
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What clínica are you talking about? Lol
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Ah ghe onde who did my kab testa. Yes probably bit they only a clínica to do blood testa. Nothig more.
Stil withinsomnia and full.of cramps. I rrally Sant to take some.heavy pill and sleep. Im waiting for l teanine as Helen sair. Bit boy 3 nights of 4/h sleeping os bad...i will tey also incline bed theraoy maybe van gelo with night errctions mi shrinkage is vsry bad my testichles are almost non existant.. And really need to sleep two or three good nights. I'm co sidering to take a pill they gave me to sleep as some kind of morfin in the compositions.
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-Yo (serious post unlike some recent ones on my log(s)).
-1. I understand that sleep is important. -2. I took some Morphine and Other Pain Killers (Oxycodone), post surgery. During crash (2 weeks or longer that crash was plus the pain and recovery of surgery; kinda rushed into that... It was worth it but bad*** timing***). (On other hand, it's done so... now can enjoy it).
-2. Those pain killers DESTROYED my stomach and digestion, and caused burning urological pain to worsen, and double vision*, and worse nite vision, too. I barely took that much usually.
-3. testicles improve overtime; mine are better way better but not 100% and also looked castrated last yr pretty much. felt it too.
@Pedro melo look at the horrible hospital in MGSV... last game I really played like 2016, came out 2015, gonna finish. Scary as hell. Anyways that mission was messed up.
Hideo Kojima is a demented person. A genius, but fucking krazy for sure. And I'd say he's on drugs but -- super illegal in Japan. ---worst hospital ever. 0/10, esp fighting "The Man On Fire", later. SICK GAME 10/10... but very different than the other ones. -in signature.
-1. I understand that sleep is important. -2. I took some Morphine and Other Pain Killers (Oxycodone), post surgery. During crash (2 weeks or longer that crash was plus the pain and recovery of surgery; kinda rushed into that... It was worth it but bad*** timing***). (On other hand, it's done so... now can enjoy it).
-2. Those pain killers DESTROYED my stomach and digestion, and caused burning urological pain to worsen, and double vision*, and worse nite vision, too. I barely took that much usually.
-3. testicles improve overtime; mine are better way better but not 100% and also looked castrated last yr pretty much. felt it too.
@Pedro melo look at the horrible hospital in MGSV... last game I really played like 2016, came out 2015, gonna finish. Scary as hell. Anyways that mission was messed up.
Hideo Kojima is a demented person. A genius, but fucking krazy for sure. And I'd say he's on drugs but -- super illegal in Japan. ---worst hospital ever. 0/10, esp fighting "The Man On Fire", later. SICK GAME 10/10... but very different than the other ones. -in signature.
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In one hand I have that or not sleeping at all... I'm not saying to stay on that forever but in this difficult nights it can be an option. NY shedding is aufwl skin muscles etc. Mood I can't even exercise. I need serious deep sleep wwich I can't get. Night ereftions are gone also because I'm always waking up
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--I'm putting this here, I like keeping my log clean (ya I know....they look crazy lol). ---BUT log 2 is clean minus others!! ANd also Log 1 could be 10pgs easily (kind of).
---Re: Diet on TEI.
--I need to modify it a bit but usually ate kind of like how you are @Pedro melo except more protein more fat (or 60 30 10) or 40 30 30 (carbs least) in normal times.
-- I believe TEI said eat moderate carbs but not too many, concentrate on protein, reduce certain fats... close to what I was doing - but more carbs, *less certain fats*.
-Lot of it is common sense (eating clean). --Main difference for me is 2 meals or 3... I have 2 and a snack lately but it could very well be 2 meals soon.I'd follow what they say tho. You eat like me but I weigh like 16kg+ more. Usually... and now like 20-23kg more. --195lb but should be 187 188 and keep all muscle, some is water and fat. -We have a different height, frame, and build tho (most of us do somewhat or a lot).
-OR I need to bulk up, then cut... but I don't usually do that, I did 3 yrs ago, 4 yrs ago, 5 yrs ago... but I don't think I need to anymore "to fill out frame".
-Not sure, recomping... continuously. Lose 7lb of fat, I'd be shredded.
-BUT it's all clean and was before. Cleaner this yr. --I eat a lot like Niles does- same with no fruits mostly. Just bananas, rice, sweet potatoes for carbs.
-Yeah I messed up math before... above is closer... usually 175-180 as a skinny minny. Then 178-185 stronger and cut... now like 189-195... but I'd like to be 184-187.
- @Pedro Possibly because I'm picky but I always preferred 1 -2 plus I'm a nite owl, so like ideally at 9 pm -1am or so (sometimes way later), but now... 2 and a snack...
-Probably 2 soon, but ... earlier (and taking supps 2x a day). Catherine said that's fine - don't mess with what's been working. It's not normal tho most likely... I.Fasting.
-I don't know if that works - in theory it should but... I had v low estrogen 199lb and v low 180lb too... and leaner... like 11 something % bfat... BUT -4-Andro did raise it.
---Re: Diet on TEI.
--I need to modify it a bit but usually ate kind of like how you are @Pedro melo except more protein more fat (or 60 30 10) or 40 30 30 (carbs least) in normal times.
-- I believe TEI said eat moderate carbs but not too many, concentrate on protein, reduce certain fats... close to what I was doing - but more carbs, *less certain fats*.
-Lot of it is common sense (eating clean). --Main difference for me is 2 meals or 3... I have 2 and a snack lately but it could very well be 2 meals soon.I'd follow what they say tho. You eat like me but I weigh like 16kg+ more. Usually... and now like 20-23kg more. --195lb but should be 187 188 and keep all muscle, some is water and fat. -We have a different height, frame, and build tho (most of us do somewhat or a lot).
-OR I need to bulk up, then cut... but I don't usually do that, I did 3 yrs ago, 4 yrs ago, 5 yrs ago... but I don't think I need to anymore "to fill out frame".
-Not sure, recomping... continuously. Lose 7lb of fat, I'd be shredded.
-BUT it's all clean and was before. Cleaner this yr. --I eat a lot like Niles does- same with no fruits mostly. Just bananas, rice, sweet potatoes for carbs.
-Yeah I messed up math before... above is closer... usually 175-180 as a skinny minny. Then 178-185 stronger and cut... now like 189-195... but I'd like to be 184-187.
- @Pedro Possibly because I'm picky but I always preferred 1 -2 plus I'm a nite owl, so like ideally at 9 pm -1am or so (sometimes way later), but now... 2 and a snack...
-Probably 2 soon, but ... earlier (and taking supps 2x a day). Catherine said that's fine - don't mess with what's been working. It's not normal tho most likely... I.Fasting.
-I don't know if that works - in theory it should but... I had v low estrogen 199lb and v low 180lb too... and leaner... like 11 something % bfat... BUT -4-Andro did raise it.
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Só how many kcal do you have per day? R andro raised your body fat percentage? Is it not supposed to keep it normal and raise your muscle.mass ( as long as you eat well and don't stop working out) you eat from 9 pm to 1 am? That's your window? Too little for me
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-I mean I was ripped 2016 end... and 2017 beginning only gained weight with tons of depression and being in bed and no digestion. R-Andro on net added (A LOT) of muscle and in conjunction with the 4-Andro, lots of strength (more than LBM). I mean like I am strong, but there are guys lifting 1/4 or 1/3 as much as me who look jacked, whereas I either look skinny or pretty strong at times... but lift like crazy amounts vs them. I did 60 dips, 30+ leg raises, and 8 other exercises (3 shoulder, 2 back - 100-120-140lb and 160 180 200 210lb sets), and triceps, and 2-3 other things yesterday and I was tired and coughing too (asthma and no meds, and it's out of control even on meds (asthma inhalers).
-I mean it HELPED body comp but it's just different now not in a bad way... I just liked being tall and skinny I guess, but it's probably better to look and feel stronger.
-R-ANDRO and herbs DID increase water retention, but on net, they must have helped digestion, and over time, water retention and fat gain.
-I am kind of all over the place, right now no hormones, and cutting a bit... SO eating light like 1300-1800cals a day, sometimes none or close (with alt day fasting) but on herbs or randro and 4andro as high as 4500 cals but that was rare (maybe 15-20 times this yr). And more even. Maybe average per year excluding extended fasting and refeed (0 and then like 300 500 800 1200 cals all the way to 1800-2000), **outside of that** 1600-2700 avg?? Not sure.
-I did track like 80d of diet or more like 110 but I got rid of it on my 1st Log, bc... I mean... there were like 4-5 different types of days and repeated meals like 16x each.
-I eat pretty consistently if I was a kid.. going to school maybe 1800 -2500cals... no exercise outside of walking 1600-2200. Training 1600-2800 but more like 2300-2500 on net. I had 153lb lean body mass end of 2016, now likely like 166 /195 but like 4-5lb is water or some weird metabolistic effect so i look between 13-15% bf... somedays way leaner... BUT if 189 or less; mathematically it's 13.6% bf or less and I was 188lb like 6 weeks ago or so. I also gain and lose like 5lb a day at times...
-By changing diet or fasting... ---> it's confusing man. basically I have 160 + /188lb lean... but I have 4-8lb more of water or fat... but I still have everything except visible abs but you could feel them like 10-12 yrs ago -- and still can. I see them, but only like 4... and not all the time.
-Part of it is genetic. AND* I thought maybe I'm still recovering from surgery, but I'm young enough and while it was hard --- I had no muscle repair; and it is trauma but for a shorter time... than a lot of things, so realistically... normal health recovery 3-6months or so... so 9-12mo must be recovered like 6-7mo ago (from surgery).*
-This coincides with my surgeon's statement as well.
-Pretty damn good shape... and was crushing it at the gym in end of march so 2-3 weeks on Randro and 1.5 weeks on 4andro. BUT*** It's never enough nor fast enough**. And being like 3-7lb from goal is pretty annoying/maddening. Esp when ... I could literally drink a bottle of vodka a day and stay lean like 4 and 10 yrs ago.
--up to a point... 6mo of that -- pretty messed up and a tiny bit of fat is least of problems (the money, friends, alcoholism, liver damage, etc is worse).
-I mean it HELPED body comp but it's just different now not in a bad way... I just liked being tall and skinny I guess, but it's probably better to look and feel stronger.
-R-ANDRO and herbs DID increase water retention, but on net, they must have helped digestion, and over time, water retention and fat gain.
-I am kind of all over the place, right now no hormones, and cutting a bit... SO eating light like 1300-1800cals a day, sometimes none or close (with alt day fasting) but on herbs or randro and 4andro as high as 4500 cals but that was rare (maybe 15-20 times this yr). And more even. Maybe average per year excluding extended fasting and refeed (0 and then like 300 500 800 1200 cals all the way to 1800-2000), **outside of that** 1600-2700 avg?? Not sure.
-I did track like 80d of diet or more like 110 but I got rid of it on my 1st Log, bc... I mean... there were like 4-5 different types of days and repeated meals like 16x each.
-I eat pretty consistently if I was a kid.. going to school maybe 1800 -2500cals... no exercise outside of walking 1600-2200. Training 1600-2800 but more like 2300-2500 on net. I had 153lb lean body mass end of 2016, now likely like 166 /195 but like 4-5lb is water or some weird metabolistic effect so i look between 13-15% bf... somedays way leaner... BUT if 189 or less; mathematically it's 13.6% bf or less and I was 188lb like 6 weeks ago or so. I also gain and lose like 5lb a day at times...
-By changing diet or fasting... ---> it's confusing man. basically I have 160 + /188lb lean... but I have 4-8lb more of water or fat... but I still have everything except visible abs but you could feel them like 10-12 yrs ago -- and still can. I see them, but only like 4... and not all the time.
-Part of it is genetic. AND* I thought maybe I'm still recovering from surgery, but I'm young enough and while it was hard --- I had no muscle repair; and it is trauma but for a shorter time... than a lot of things, so realistically... normal health recovery 3-6months or so... so 9-12mo must be recovered like 6-7mo ago (from surgery).*
-This coincides with my surgeon's statement as well.
-Pretty damn good shape... and was crushing it at the gym in end of march so 2-3 weeks on Randro and 1.5 weeks on 4andro. BUT*** It's never enough nor fast enough**. And being like 3-7lb from goal is pretty annoying/maddening. Esp when ... I could literally drink a bottle of vodka a day and stay lean like 4 and 10 yrs ago.
--up to a point... 6mo of that -- pretty messed up and a tiny bit of fat is least of problems (the money, friends, alcoholism, liver damage, etc is worse).
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--Also can't tell if I like / love or hate the gy.m... I was fine being lanky with crazy hair. And being super fast and having high endurance. -- Gym is a positive addiction, sure... but only up to a point. --I literally get so mad when it's full, need to workout in like silence or trance or rap music.
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Can you tell me your routine/s in the gym?
How long do you usually work out?
I see people saying that the workout heavy is not good for people.on pfs condition and we should replace it for aerobic/ cardio.
I'm trying to incorporate aerobic ( 30 min running at 140/150 heart rate) so I can use more fats. And work out home or in the gym but but sure about the range of reps/ intensity since it messes with hormonal sistem. What's your opinion?
How long do you usually work out?
I see people saying that the workout heavy is not good for people.on pfs condition and we should replace it for aerobic/ cardio.
I'm trying to incorporate aerobic ( 30 min running at 140/150 heart rate) so I can use more fats. And work out home or in the gym but but sure about the range of reps/ intensity since it messes with hormonal sistem. What's your opinion?
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--Yeah man I wrote it up... and I text myself everyday to keep track (but then I delete all my texts and emails nightly...) --something like this, sometimes quite different but several yrs ago I stopped doing Legs, Chest, Back, Shoulder, Arm days -- Although I did: with 5x5 and Lean gains and ice cream fitness and similar programs.
-3x8 or something when cutting but maintaining LBM and growing a bit... 5x5 to learn squats and also --- deadlifts and large compound lifts, first.
-I like chinups and dips most I guess. Back is strong, legs relatively strong but better endurance. Chest strength (and all) have gone up dramatically in 2016 and also this year (all were ... impossible last yr tho). I worked out 220x plus this yr and didn't eat till end of Feb. And was refeeding into April (from fast).
-I worked out literally 0-2 times in 2017.
-Near all workouts fasted unless I feel sick or really hungry or when I was too skinny or too tired (historically).
-And like: electrolytes before and whey spinach electrolytes (aminos, protein ; B1; Mg Na Cl K) after (with banana K and also Cacao - for Mg and fibre).
-Now just TEI 3x a day but it will be 2x a day bc it's too hard to remember what time to take this all for me.
-Monday:
-1. 91 dips
-2. Triceps 2 sets 80 and 60% of max... 40 reps or so.
-3. Shoulder raises 15-25lb 2 sets.
-4. Finish a third set for 2 and 3.
-5. Back --- Iso lateral Pull downs 180-210lbs 2 sets but super sets... low then high weight, then medium.
-6. Shoulder Press - light 70-100lb 3 sets.
-7. Back - seated rows 80-140lb 2 sets.
-8. Finish a third set on anything I missed.
-9. Chest Press 85-140lbs -- only 2 sets light reps, chest is hard for me. My shoulders are too flexible.
-10. Leg Raises -- 37dips.
-leg press somewhere here.. 175lb to 320lbs 51 reps or so total in 3 sets.
-WITH inhalers --> 40-70secs in between sets. No inhalers (like now during TEI mostly) --> more like 60secs to 2mins and like less total reps 320 vs like 400
-no choline , less reps too. -sometimes 90s or more... between exercises - or I just leave, walk in the cold... catch my breath and go home... overtraining a lot probably.
-Got way better recomp with functional strength coaches in 3-4months of 2016 and only working out 3-4 times... than previous yrs (like prev yrs combined).
-so slowly went from 20 percent to 17 to 16 to 14 to 13 etc bodyfat. But yeah PFS kind of messed this up a bit... but I'm killing it mostly (not arrogant). Stil lots work to do.
-Wednesday:
-pretty similar but 3 shoulders, also leg press each time -- not when in pain or injured or need to rest. Less dips and less leg raises/ wheezing/ asthma coughing.
-11 exercises including standing single legged deadlifts and also lunges (whatever they're called... just full extension, long lunges - single leg).
-3x8 or something when cutting but maintaining LBM and growing a bit... 5x5 to learn squats and also --- deadlifts and large compound lifts, first.
-I like chinups and dips most I guess. Back is strong, legs relatively strong but better endurance. Chest strength (and all) have gone up dramatically in 2016 and also this year (all were ... impossible last yr tho). I worked out 220x plus this yr and didn't eat till end of Feb. And was refeeding into April (from fast).
-I worked out literally 0-2 times in 2017.
-Near all workouts fasted unless I feel sick or really hungry or when I was too skinny or too tired (historically).
-And like: electrolytes before and whey spinach electrolytes (aminos, protein ; B1; Mg Na Cl K) after (with banana K and also Cacao - for Mg and fibre).
-Now just TEI 3x a day but it will be 2x a day bc it's too hard to remember what time to take this all for me.
-Monday:
-1. 91 dips
-2. Triceps 2 sets 80 and 60% of max... 40 reps or so.
-3. Shoulder raises 15-25lb 2 sets.
-4. Finish a third set for 2 and 3.
-5. Back --- Iso lateral Pull downs 180-210lbs 2 sets but super sets... low then high weight, then medium.
-6. Shoulder Press - light 70-100lb 3 sets.
-7. Back - seated rows 80-140lb 2 sets.
-8. Finish a third set on anything I missed.
-9. Chest Press 85-140lbs -- only 2 sets light reps, chest is hard for me. My shoulders are too flexible.
-10. Leg Raises -- 37dips.
-leg press somewhere here.. 175lb to 320lbs 51 reps or so total in 3 sets.
-WITH inhalers --> 40-70secs in between sets. No inhalers (like now during TEI mostly) --> more like 60secs to 2mins and like less total reps 320 vs like 400
-no choline , less reps too. -sometimes 90s or more... between exercises - or I just leave, walk in the cold... catch my breath and go home... overtraining a lot probably.
-Got way better recomp with functional strength coaches in 3-4months of 2016 and only working out 3-4 times... than previous yrs (like prev yrs combined).
-so slowly went from 20 percent to 17 to 16 to 14 to 13 etc bodyfat. But yeah PFS kind of messed this up a bit... but I'm killing it mostly (not arrogant). Stil lots work to do.
-Wednesday:
-pretty similar but 3 shoulders, also leg press each time -- not when in pain or injured or need to rest. Less dips and less leg raises/ wheezing/ asthma coughing.
-11 exercises including standing single legged deadlifts and also lunges (whatever they're called... just full extension, long lunges - single leg).
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