PFS almost cured

[RebelWithACause]

I do not see that, where is it?

 

[RebelWithACause]

Still worth to try niacin if you have high DHT. I don't know who is not doing anything right now. That person can try it. A lot of people are on protocols already. Hopefully PFStinks can give an update in a few weeks to see where he stands.

 

[wuf]

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I still don't see it in the link Boris posted.
Who cares, he said he got better, so that means that the logic that Helen provided seems to be right, and since CdNuts plays quite the same game.
Tha issue is that Helen said that maybe it is not only about AR but also about Estro and cortisol receptor...but is is not mentioned in Melcangi's study, so not sure it has credit enough.

 

[RebelWithACause]

I still don't see it in the link Boris posted.
Who cares, he said he got better, so that means that the logic that Helen provided seems to be right, and since CdNuts plays quite the same game.
Tha issue is that Helen said that maybe it is not only about AR but also about Estro and cortisol receptor...but is is not mentioned in Melcangi's study, so not sure it has credit enough.

It is his last post on Reddit - 1 hour ago lol. I just clicked on his name to see if he updated about it somewhere and saw that post.

 

[Helen]

Slow oxidizers with high DHT?


Anyone want to try niacin high dose, the flush one?

the idea is to kill methylation and allow the ARs to downregulate in DHT sensitive tissues.

 

[barbaar]

Slow oxidizers with high DHT?


Anyone want to try niacin high dose, the flush one?

the idea is to kill methylation and allow the ARs to downregulate in DHT sensitive tissues.

I can give it a go after exams next week!

 

[wuf]

It is his last post on Reddit - 1 hour ago lol. I just clicked on his name to see if he updated about it somewhere and saw that post.

we should create an account over there and ask that dude how is he doing..?

 

[wuf]

Slow oxidizers with high DHT?


Anyone want to try niacin high dose, the flush one?

the idea is to kill methylation and allow the ARs to downregulate in DHT sensitive tissues.

How do I know if I am Slow oxidizers?
I can test for DHT (You mean total DHT in blood right?)

 

[RebelWithACause]

we should create an account over there and ask that dude how is he doing..?

Yes I asked him just now. Will let you know how he is doing now.

 

[Helen]

guys we should not steer this thread away from its point, may be some people would want to try low low dose Fin. like PFStinks

I could not understand how it could deal with overexpressed receptors, but now I think I understand

if you increase DHT very very slowly, then it gives time for the body to adjust AR expression.

but the dosage of Fin has to be super low.

 

[wuf]

guys we should not steer this thread away from its point, may be some people would want to try low low dose Fin. like PFStinks

I could not understand how it could deal with overexpressed receptors, but now I think I understand

if you increase DHT very very slowly, then it gives time for the body to adjust AR expression.

but the dosage of Fin has to be super low.

How can you even cut a pill in super low dosage?
Tanita as for cocaine is needed.

 

[hairsuit]

So, who is going to be the guinea pig?!
Come on, out balls who has them!...

So are we talking taking a water dose? I could be down to give it a shot.

 

[wuf]

Slow oxidizers with high DHT?


Anyone want to try niacin high dose, the flush one?

the idea is to kill methylation and allow the ARs to downregulate in DHT sensitive tissues.

Last thing, if I am not wrong, by the study it comes out that the methylation is regarding the 5 alfa reductase enzyme and not the ARs.

 

[wuf]

So are we talking taking a water dose? I could be down to give it a shot.

ask to @Helen if that could be fine and dosage.

 

[Helen]

So are we talking taking a water dose? I could be down to give it a shot.[/Q

Can you explain that again? How much did you take?. How did you feel? How long have you been doing this?
I’m very interested because I just started something similar. Last week, Monday I took one drop of avodart ( 12 drops in one cap) so extremely low dose. I felt a little boost, sweating , slight increase in libido the day after. Wednesday did the same but Friday felt possibly more genital numbness ( not usually a prob for me) so I’ve been holding off restarting. But I was also taking 2 Vit B2 tabs a day and I think too much of that can make u feel worse. I’m going to restart. Plan is 1 drop every other day but it seems like playing w fire. No Vit b2.

I think you need to take only one dose. and then go off. then one dose and go off for weeks.

the cure happens while DHT rises

the more periods of DHT rises you create, the more ARs will downregulate.


While DHT rises number of ARs have time to downregulate.

but if DHT rises quckly from very low to very high. there is no time to kill protein expression, and thus numbers of ARs stays, and methylation takes over.

i think this is also a problem of taking TOO MUCH dht, when people take it. DHT needs to be taken in slow amounts, and preferrable in ladder pattern

like low, higher higher higher.

 

[bruschi11]

How do I know if I am Slow oxidizers?
I can test for DHT (You mean total DHT in blood right?)

Hair test lol

 

[TubZy]

It is his last post on Reddit - 1 hour ago lol. I just clicked on his name to see if he updated about it somewhere and saw that post.

Interesting, I did not see that post. Funny he just posted like super recently lol

 

[Ocguy]

Because you took dutasteride which has a long half life.

In the end it does not matter why it took long. We cannot see what exactly happened in the body. No matter how much theory/hypothesis we throw at it.

I think TEI is a good approach. So is cdsnuts. It is also good that there are guys like PFStinks and other people doing a different route. To see which approach works best in the end. I think patience is key and not let the mind go crazy every time there is a glimmer of light.

TEI needs more time to see if it works. I would say at least 6 months on the program. No one with PFS did TEI full 6 months yet except Goose who has a different problem (Post Saw Palmetto). Goose who has done cdsnuts and other protocols is seeing a good amount of benefit on TEI.

If this cured PFStinks which we will know in the next months then other people can try that.

Most cured people who are off all supplements have been from cdsnuts and other LONG TERM protocols (Chi for example). There have been guys who got better within a few weeks of finding the cure for their body but most people have had a long term strategy/approach to it.

I ask that question because I'm trying to wrap my head around why starting would bring me back.. since I was off for so long with no sexual sides..

The extremely long half life has some merit, because essentially it feels like I'm still on it, shedding is non existent for example, but as the years go by it feels like my dosage is increasing on its own.. even though I haven't taken it in years

 

[Admiral]

Any conclusions we can make from this the opposite way? For the low DHT, fast oxidizers?

 

[hairsuit]

I think you need to take only one dose. and then go off. then one dose and go off for weeks.

the cure happens while DHT rises

the more periods of DHT rises you create, the more ARs will downregulate.


While DHT rises number of ARs have time to downregulate.

but if DHT rises quckly from very low to very high. there is no time to kill protein expression, and thus numbers of ARs stays, and methylation takes over.

i think this is also a problem of taking TOO MUCH dht, when people take it. DHT needs to be taken in slow amounts, and preferrable in ladder pattern

like low, higher higher higher.

Absolutely. So the best way to take a low low dose is by a water dose, correct? Dissolve a pill in water and then take a teaspoon, or something to that effect?