Tei and some consideration

[Helen]

I also think that the problem with copper bioavailability is because of aldehyde enzymes. Most copper enzymes produce aldehyde. and if you produce or expose to too much aldehyde from candida, gut dysbiosis because of lack of bile let's say, then acetaldehyde can be very high and this stops copper enzymes which breaking down serotonin and histamine, and you end up with high cortisol

We recently found that most POIS people have extremely high levels of malassezia restricta . which could be a reason for the IBD, gut problems, crons, and CFS.

10 people got tested and all of them had that. It is a fungus , so creates this acetaldehyde


It could to do with potassium concentration of the cell, and intracellur acidosis and extracellular alkalosis. thus this fungus grows. I am looking into this.


may be that is why some people felt better on nystatins etc fluconazoles

 

[Helen]

And this is why more and more people get POIS. may be too many use antibiotics.

 

[Helen]

This mallassezia restricta can cause psoriasis , dandruff etc, look it up. It is weird that all people had it.

 

[bruschi11]

practitioners are not experts, most of them know nothing. how can practitioner know anything about biochemistry.

Exactly. We need EXPERTS is what I'm saying. Most practitioners are just people that ran program and did well on it eventually. They aren't anywhere near experts- just those that benefitted. There's a huge portion of people who aren't doing well on this stuff. I'm talking 30-50% who have been trying it.

Sure, maybe if 20 of the 40% who aren't doing well stuck out the chelation and herx they'd be ok in 3-4 months time. But I can certainly tell you we have another 20% who just aren't going to ever benefit from TEI itself individually. People need to dig deeper.

I just don't agree with "Go on TEI" to anyone who shows up to this forum. I just don't and can't. I think if people are truly invested in fixing the severity of issues that we've face here- they'd pony up the extra $100 or so every 2-3 months to speak with an EXPERT.

I mean if a program is wrong... and you say it all the time @Helen "you're program is wrong." Then that person is screwed and they can get set back months.

I know I'm a Lyme case and all. But Chi, English, Ihateproecia702 and so on guys that fixed gut primarily to beat this... they are some pretty big evidence for this community too. I love what we are doing with HTMA and it is a huge part of mine and what should be everyone's plan. But there is more out there to fixing a person from the severe destruction we have faced than just utilizing HTMA. I think we can do it quicker and faster than this "you'll be fixed in a year or two thing."

 

[bruschi11]

Dude I did not post this to bash you or claim I am an expert.

I am just sharing my experience. If you want to listen to a practitioner that also good. I am just saying what I have done and it at least got me out of a bad spot. I am not there yet... far from it.

But at least I feel like I am living a bit again. Which yes took 4 months. Slow and steady.

I think sharing the experience can help put things in perspective. I can only talk about my personal experience. I can talk good sweet words to Pedro but I have no clue. Only my experience is what I have so I share it with him. Goose experiences helped me to just keep going...

I apologize. I was a bit much there- you didn't deserve that. This forum I just feel is far too focused on this one thing being TEI now. And you're the guy on here that preaches "TEI TEI TEI" the most lol and I just really don't agree with it as you can see in my post before this.

While we've realized how important nutritional balancing is to this community this last year. We can't prove this as fact as the way to go in all cases. I believe that this field is amazing and I'm baffled by it. Look at my signature below this that I've had here since this forum began (heck it was in my solvepfs sig too). Yea, I've worked with electrical medicine, fasting, nutritional balancing, herbs, urine, hydrogen/ozone etc etc,,,, and I'm most amazed by the nutritional balancing.

I love it. I think its the future of health. I did TRT with preg and T3 some HC/licorice in 2016 pre-pfs. I did some cool things manually making the endocrine system work. Now I am seeing my body do this stuff with nutrition. Manually making the endocrine system and heck the whole body go with nutrition.

Ok I'll get off that tangent now. HTMA is great! But there's just more to fixing these people and we can't just say "this is going to work for you!" with TEI.

.

 

[RebelWithACause]

Exactly. We need EXPERTS is what I'm saying. Most practitioners are just people that ran program and did well on it eventually. They aren't anywhere near experts- just those that benefitted. There's a huge portion of people who aren't doing well on this stuff. I'm talking 30-50% who have been trying it.

Sure, maybe if 20 of the 40% who aren't doing well stuck out the chelation and herx they'd be ok in 3-4 months time. But I can certainly tell you we have another 20% who just aren't going to ever benefit from TEI itself individually. People need to dig deeper.

I just don't agree with "Go on TEI" to anyone who shows up to this forum. I just don't and can't. I think if people are truly invested in fixing the severity of issues that we've face here- they'd pony up the extra $100 or so every 2-3 months to speak with an EXPERT.

I mean if a program is wrong... and you say it all the time @Helen "you're program is wrong." Then that person is screwed and they can get set back months.

I know I'm a Lyme case and all. But Chi, English, Ihateproecia702 and so on guys that fixed gut primarily to beat this... they are some pretty big evidence for this community too. I love what we are doing with HTMA and it is a huge part of mine and what should be everyone's plan. But there is more out there to fixing a person from the severe destruction we have faced than just utilizing HTMA. I think we can do it quicker and faster than this "you'll be fixed in a year or two thing."

Yes but the idea of TEI is to fix all the imbalances. This was the thought from the start. You go on TEI not just for PFS, you do it if you want to fix the whole system (hairloss, POIS, whatever your problem was before PFS). Will it? I think no one knows but I think it deserves a fair chance.

Meanwhile the plan was to find a faster cure for those that want to get fixed quick. So if people do not want to stick to this for at least a year it is not a good program to follow since you will go up and down as we see on this forum. Some people feel good on it and some feel really bad. For some people it might not be the right thing to do.

But what I think is that PFS is not an easy fix. I think we can get close to that conclusion now. But who knows. I would love to have a quick fix for the people who do not want to do something like TEI

I agree with your point though to not become too tunnel vision on TEI. I am a stubborn guy so I can be a bit pushy or shortsighted with everything. But I do it also because it helped me get from a really bad situation to at least being able to live stable (not feeling like dogshit most of the time) in 4 months. I don't want people to give up too fast on it. I am far from cured but at the very least TEI has given me good improvements in all areas.

I think we just need to keep going and discussions like this are good to find what works.

 

[RebelWithACause]

I apologize. I was a bit much there- you didn't deserve that. This forum I just feel is far too focused on this one thing being TEI now. And you're the guy on here that preaches "TEI TEI TEI" the most lol and I just really don't agree with it as you can see in my post before this.

While we've realized how important nutritional balancing is to this community this last year. We can't prove this as fact as the way to go in all cases. I believe that this field is amazing and I'm baffled by it. Look at my signature below this that I've had here since this forum began (heck it was in my solvepfs sig too). Yea, I've worked with electrical medicine, fasting, nutritional balancing, herbs, hydrogen/ozone etc etc,,,,, and I'm most amazed by the nutritional balancing.

I love it. I think its the future of health. I did TRT with preg and T3 some HC/licorice in 2016 pre-pfs. I did some cool things manually making the endocrine system work. Now I am seeing my body do this stuff with nutrition. Manually making the endocrine system and heck the whole body go with nutrition.

Ok I'll get off that tangent now. HTMA is great! But there's just more to fixing these people and we can't just say "this is going to work for you!" with TEI.

.

No need to apologise haha. That's what forums are for man. We can't agree all the time...

 

[Helen]

@bruschi11 I don't say the program is wrong, I' m saying the experts you talk to are charlatans. including me. TEI is a tested thing by biochemists, scientists, and you talk to Practitioners, who know nothing and just read internet. those are your experts for 100 bux.

What experts you are going to find. there are none. experts are biochemists. with a system which works, meaning the system which is backtested,

I know 1000s of people on TEI which changed their life. and I know may be a few who could do it themselves by chelation.

as far as gut read what I wrote. what we found, this is new information and no one has it. we had DNA testing in our russian group and those guys who got tested found one fungus in all samples.


you are missing the point, substitution of minerals is not fixing things. same as taking pyroluria supplements does not fix it. and TEI is trying to fix it.

you are taking something that the body is losing, since there is an imbalance present.

And we don;t know if you will be fixed at all.

you told me about lyme and I offered you what I thought lyme was. by understanding how lyme works.

l nolvaline urea cycle components, but you are going thru the same stuff now. as most people on TEI program, feeling out of it most of the time, which you call herx.
And we dont know if what you are doing going to help you and fix your metabolism. you never backtested that.


what I told you is that your tested hair in the impaired state after crazy manipulations and fasting and so forth, so your hairtest might not be correct., that is all I told you.

ARL gave you the same program originally a you are taking now. pretty much.

but without l nolvaline

 

[bruschi11]

I also think that the problem with copper bioavailability is because of aldehyde enzymes. Most copper enzymes produce aldehyde. and if you produce or expose to too much aldehyde from candida, gut dysbiosis because of lack of bile let's say, then acetaldehyde can be very high and this stops copper enzymes which breaking down serotonin and histamine, and you end up with high cortisol

We recently found that most POIS people have extremely high levels of malassezia restricta . which could be a reason for the IBD, gut problems, crons, and CFS.

10 people got tested and all of them had that. It is a fungus , so creates this acetaldehyde


It could to do with potassium concentration of the cell, and intracellur acidosis and extracellular alkalosis. thus this fungus grows. I am looking into this.


may be that is why some people felt better on nystatins etc fluconazoles

Very very interesting and I'm sorry I didn't read it before. I'll see what I can find of it on RIFE and how it affects me when I go after it. I've been told I likely have acetaldehyde.

Edit: Found it on Rife. A full hour program for it. I'll test it now. I wish I got this information when I was sicker lol. I can't feel the frequencies as well currently because I'm doing so well. There's much less herxheimer reaction.

 

[Helen]

@bruschi11 cool, try it on rife machine.

 

[bruschi11]

@bruschi11 cool, try it on rife machine.

Ya I'm definitely getting a herx from it.

Its not like a Lyme herx where its crazy chemical depression so its not that noticeable. But certainly from 15 mins use I'm reacting to something substantially.

 

[Helen]

@bruschi11 also I wanted to point out, when I was using similar machines previously. my cortisol was always sky high from them.

 

[bruschi11]

And this is why more and more people get POIS. may be too many use antibiotics.

Its incredible how much damage antibiotics can really do to gut. I did a 25 day run before 2 weeks balancing/gerson run before this fast. My gut just went from doing good to bad afterward.

The funny thing is... I was like "wait- this is how I shit pre-PFS during CFS my whole early and mid 20s." Stool is just so much smaller and like once or twice a day but the body isn't moving anywhere near as much stuff out. Bloating, weight gain. Just a pathetic digestive system that I had worked hard on.

Its just gross what antibiotics do. There's got to be an appropriate way to use these drugs. And fix gut quickly afterward. My only way is fasting.

 

[bruschi11]

@bruschi11 also I wanted to point out, when I was using similar machines previously. my cortisol was always sky high from them.

I honestly think the best use for these machines is when fasting. Or in Keto. Block cortisol so you don't get that affect. I'm currently fasting and probably have utilized this most during fasts.

You mentioned the cortisol thing a few months back and I was like "wow I actually do best on it during fasts." Its kinda why I like one day fasts too. I'll fast for a day, use rife during it, let body eat up the toxins during the fast.

I have machine connected to my work computer now its freakin great.

 

[Ingeno]

The reason I went with TEI is because I was done with all the experimenting with random stuff. Although TEI is tough right now, I am still looking forward to the next cycle. If I am not improving after 3-4 cycles my hope will be lost and I have no clue what else could fix me. Can't accept the miserable life either, maybe Helen has a better protocol in 2019.

 

[Admiral]

The reason I went with TEI is because I was done with all the experimenting with random stuff. Although TEI is tough right now, I am still looking forward to the next cycle. If I am not improving after 3-4 cycles my hope will be lost and I have no clue what else could fix me. Can't accept the miserable life either, maybe Helen has a better protocol in 2019.

No improvements of any kind so far, Ingeno?

 

[Ingeno]

No improvements of any kind so far, Ingeno?

Not really, I feel tired and weak on most days. No motivation to hit the gym or do anything at work. Libido is mostly non existant and I feel low androgen action, yet my hair is getting destroyed. Also no idea why they give me copper because zinc is low as well. Last cycle they did give zinc but that didn't raise much on 2nd test. I have some good days here and there but they fade away quickly. On the good days I enjoy music a lot and want to hit the gym, but those are short lasted. Also started getting eyelid twitching since a few weeks. Heard it is because of low magnesium, yet I take min-plex-b three times a day.

You know with all the negatives it is really hard to stay positive, especially with my hairline being destroyed, thinking that was the sole reason I risked my health by taking FIN. It's funny and sad if you think about it. Hair and health would probably be the same or even better it I never took that poison.

 

[HerrFisch]

Not really, I feel tired and weak on most days. No motivation to hit the gym or do anything at work. Libido is mostly non existant and I feel low androgen action, yet my hair is getting destroyed. Also no idea why they give me copper because zinc is low as well. Last cycle they did give zinc but that didn't raise much on 2nd test. I have some good days here and there but they fade away quickly. On the good days I enjoy music a lot and want to hit the gym, but those are short lasted. Also started getting eyelid twitching since a few weeks. Heard it is because of low magnesium, yet I take min-plex-b three times a day.

You know with all the negatives it is really hard to stay positive, especially with my hairline being destroyed, thinking that was the sole reason I risked my health by taking FIN. It's funny and sad if you think about it. Hair and health would probably be the same or even better it I never took that poison.

I for myself connect muscle twitches even if it’s the eyelid rather with low Potassium than Magnesium. Though Mg also helps K uptake.
But mini plex has lots of chromium which can dump your Potassium quickly.

Not 100% sure why TEI is giving much Chromium and Copper with this low K and high Na/K but they probably know.

TEI and ARL have different approaches to treat 4 Lows.

I really think you need to get out of hat worse than 4 lows state.

 

[RebelWithACause]

Not really, I feel tired and weak on most days. No motivation to hit the gym or do anything at work. Libido is mostly non existant and I feel low androgen action, yet my hair is getting destroyed. Also no idea why they give me copper because zinc is low as well. Last cycle they did give zinc but that didn't raise much on 2nd test. I have some good days here and there but they fade away quickly. On the good days I enjoy music a lot and want to hit the gym, but those are short lasted. Also started getting eyelid twitching since a few weeks. Heard it is because of low magnesium, yet I take min-plex-b three times a day.

You know with all the negatives it is really hard to stay positive, especially with my hairline being destroyed, thinking that was the sole reason I risked my health by taking FIN. It's funny and sad if you think about it. Hair and health would probably be the same or even better it I never took that poison.

You don't eat dairy right? Then it is very hard to get enough calcium I think. Some days I drink half a liter or even a liter of milk and only then I feel more slowed down/relaxed. Otherwise not. Try to experiment a bit with foods - try some types of dairy (lower fat, higher fat) - maybe a different type of dairy. I would try next cycle to add the calcium, magnesium manually to the Sympia.

 

[Ingeno]

You don't eat dairy right? Then it is very hard to get enough calcium I think. Some days I drink half a liter or even a liter of milk and only then I feel more slowed down/relaxed. Otherwise not. Try to experiment a bit with foods - try some types of dairy (lower fat, higher fat) - maybe a different type of dairy. I would try next cycle to add the calcium, magnesium manually to the Sympia.

Actually I do eat a lot of dairy, 10% fat greek yogurt and full fat milk, 500g/ml of both each. I was worried about dairy because it makes my scalp itch. I find it hard though to reach my potassium goals, mostly eating potatoes, but reaching 3500mg is a pain in the ass.