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bruschi11

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Ok, we need to create boxing matches here. just like youtubers do.

Bruschi vs supernature, and we can bet on these. haha

I don’t fight... I bite. Tyson style better beware.
 

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You got the pressure, got jokes, not bad.

I wanted to just help a little bit the OP, thats all, but it end up i have to be boxing to do so, oh well, live is short, why not :)

If i knew it will cost me so much effort to try to help someone, probably i wouldnt do it, or try to do it again, its too much resistance going on, even from the OP :)

Unbeliavable.
 

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I bet you guys will be watching with full bucket of corn, thing is there might be flying like a parrot figures going on :)


I will be betting big also. Also remember Bruschi is on all those poisons and stuff and anti bug treatments, I think if you bite him, could just die from poisoning ))

So I am leaning towards betting on Bruschi this time ))
 

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I thing we need more pressure off
I will be betting big also. Also remember Bruschi is on all those poisons and stuff and anti bug treatments, I think if you bite him, could just die from poisoning ))

So I am leaning towards betting on Bruschi this time ))


Haha that would be a smart bet of you, the chances are he might gonna survive this no problem, but the prognosis arent clear for myself :))

I think in general the music and dancing is not enough, thats why some pressure got captured and it pops up from time to time.

Just look the moves and plasticity haha


 

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I will be betting big also. Also remember Bruschi is on all those poisons and stuff and anti bug treatments, I think if you bite him, could just die from poisoning ))

So I am leaning towards betting on Bruschi this time ))

I’m on day 4 of re-feed bro I’m putting nothing but veggies and broth in me. No poisons here.

I’m in that zinc/manganese/b1 body chemistry you were mentioning about goose/rebel other day and it sucks post fast. Cortisol is so low, I need to eat like a pigeon.

Would a liver flush be crazy during a re-feed? Just feel like ton of liver congestion right now and coffee Enemas are constipating, last thing we want.
 

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Yeah all this terror diets and cleansings make people see the negative instead of the positive, thats that toxins getting out. Thing is when one is in detox might be better to be less active over the keyboard so to not detox themselves over the others.


There is this annoying adv on YT about some lady singer, idk who she is, but she says when she was writing this album she was under a lot of emotion stuff and anger was one if them, noooooooooo

im not buyng this music at all, noooo thank you.
 

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I don't think it is that straight forward but maybe it's 3-beta hsd which is zinc dependent:
https://www.meridianvalleylab.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/testmetab.jpg
Role of zinc in regulating the testicular function. Part 2. Effect of dietary zinc deficiency on gonadotropins, prolactin and testosterone levels a... - PubMed - NCBI

Funny thing is I'm sure Helen could answer this by heart, but he still let's us struggle, tough love!

@Ocguy haha ))


You seems to find the exact study i was referencing with my 1st post, i just saw this. Good job boy, you must be a superman, many couldnt find it.
 

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You are such disgrace, an old guy talking bullshit, you are probably full of it.

Attacking . , me ? hahaha


my search word is just half of the equation you moron, but when what i wrote the OP adds their search words obviously zinc and 3b-hsd, they will find a study with the exact thing they are asking for.

Probably a moron like yourself if just do this will find it as well, but instead you are using your phone to talk shit to other people over inet, you keyboard bully.

Now get a hell out of my profile and dont quote me again.

I know everybody's kissed and made up, but kindly fuck yourself.. I'll kick your ass into next tuesday.. yeah I'm 52 with pfs.. but I look 40 and been in the gym my whole life.. your a snowflake dickhead..

my very first response to get clarification was it was a smartass move to just link to google, but gave u the benefit of the doubt by asking if that was your intention? Again merely asking an innocent question

U could have easily clarified that right then and there that u were simply adding an author for him to add to his own keyphrase.. case closed.. next

but no u acted like a little snowflake bitch boy and threw out insult after insult.. how do u expect someone to react to that?
 
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I know everybody's kissed and made up, but kindly fuck yourself.. I'll kick your ass into next tuesday.. yeah I'm 52 with pfs.. but I look 40 and been in the gym my whole life.. your a snowflake dickhead..

my very first response to get clarification was it was a smartass move to just link to google, but gave u the benefit of the doubt by asking if that was your intention? Again merely asking an innocent question

U could have easily clarified that right then and there that u were simply adding an author for him to add to his own keyphrase.. case closed.. next

but no u acted like a little snowflake bitch boy and threw out insult after insult.. how do u expect someone to react to that?

I didn’t kiss and make up with anyone here. I apologized for my misinterpretation and never got one back.

Just further disparagement from the guy.

He’s a waste of time. Don’t get banned here man cuz of him, you’re too valuable here with your knowledge.
 

Ocguy

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I didn’t kiss and make up with anyone here. I apologized for my misinterpretation and never got one back.

Just further disparagement from the guy.

He’s a waste of time. Don’t get banned here man cuz of him, you’re too valuable here with your knowledge.

Yea, I don't have time to follow this entire idiotic thread.. I saw some joking around posts, so I assumed everybody was square..
If I get banned for defending myself so be it..
used to shock me since it's so contrary to why the Internet, discussion boards , etc were created. but whatever
 

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Yea, I don't have time to follow this entire idiotic thread.. I saw some joking around posts, so I assumed everybody was square..
If I get banned for defending myself so be it..
used to shock me since it's so contrary to why the Internet, discussion boards , etc were created. but whatever

Lol I’m sure you’re fine. I just suffer from a bit of ban-o-phobia due to my experiences on solve and PH.
 

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Yea, I don't have time to follow this entire idiotic thread.. I saw some joking around posts, so I assumed everybody was square..
If I get banned for defending myself so be it..
used to shock me since it's so contrary to why the Internet, discussion boards , etc were created. but whatever

You won't get banned lol
 

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Q1 :
https://www.quora.com/How-is-DHEA-converted-into-testosterone

DHEA -> Andro -> Test.
Zinc ? Role of zinc in regulating the testicular function. Part 2. Effect of dietary zinc deficiency on gonadotropins, prolactin and testosterone levels a... - PubMed - NCBI


Q2:

Cant find anything really, doesnt really answer the question but

Investigation of aromatase inhibitory activity of metal complexes of 8-hydroxyquinoline and uracil derivatives

" Cu complexes (6 and 9) exhibited aromatase inhibitory effect "
"However, such Cu complexes (6 and 9) displayed weaker aromatase inhibitory activity than letrozole, which is the inhibitor currently used against breast cancer in postmeno- pausal women. This suggests that Cu ion plays crucial roles in aromatase inhibition. "

" A plausible explanation may be attributed to the redox-reactive nature of Cu ion that gives rise to its high affinity to bind electrons and organic molecules.

There-fore, Cu ions in the released complexes (possibly 8HQ–Cu) could bind to organic compartments of aromatase enzyme, which may consequently cause conformational change of the enzyme leading to perturbation of the catalytic activity. Alternatively, the released 8HQ–Cu charged complex could interact with the target site and subsequently release 8HQ free ligand, which is a potent Fe chelator.
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Consequently, 8HQ could possibly chelate Fe contained within the aromatase enzyme, thereby leading to the inactivation of the aromatase enzyme."

(Iron dependence?)


Endocrine studies of the ovulatory disturbances in Wilson's disease (hepatolenticular degeneration). - PubMed - NCBI

"An interference of ovarian follicular aromatase activity possibly due to copper intoxication could explain these findings as the cause of the ovulatory disturbances of Wilson's disease."


DHT, E2 induces Aromatase as well as T. E mostly by 3beta-diol.
Flavonoids inhibit aromatase and are potent metal chelators.
In breast cancer they use copper chelators for women having too high estrogen.

Copper increases FSH which stimulates Aromatase.

Weird that Estrogen increases Copper but also Copper increases Estrogen.
(Could be that Estradiol and Estriol have different effects on Copper Metabolism?)

Its a mess.

Must be something with actual ability to use copper or sth else.

And I dont think Aromatase is only copper dependant.
 
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I know everybody's kissed and made up, but kindly fuck yourself.. I'll kick your ass into next tuesday.. yeah I'm 52 with pfs.. but I look 40 and been in the gym my whole life.. your a snowflake dickhead..

my very first response to get clarification was it was a smartass move to just link to google, but gave u the benefit of the doubt by asking if that was your intention? Again merely asking an innocent question

U could have easily clarified that right then and there that u were simply adding an author for him to add to his own keyphrase.. case closed.. next

but no u acted like a little snowflake bitch boy and threw out insult after insult.. how do u expect someone to react to that?



52, looking like a 40, feeling like an 80, Well tell us about it, how is it working out for you to go to the gym with diapers ? As you see its better to be a d*head than a s*head.
You have all the answers already here, inform yourself when you get off the treadmill, fatboy.


used to shock me since it's so contrary to why the Internet, discussion boards , etc were created. but whatever


Discussion boards in your understandings seems a place where some people serve you and you go there to read already digested data and people to make google queries for you to click and to come up with everything you need to know, how convenient for people like you.




You won't get banned lol



See you are even encouraged to keep on going with the cursing, it seems there a lots of guys who might want to see more spectacles.
 
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