Experimental Hair Loss Options

TubZy

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jacknap post_id=5519 time=1512068688 user_id=82 said:
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mattyb post_id=5418 time=1511965347 user_id=95 said:
I might give the ACV thing a go, ACV has the same pH as skin, so I could see how it would be good. How do you get it to stay on your head though, especially for a bald guy like me? I feel like it would just fall straight off. I guess I could use some kind of absorbent for it and let that sit on my head....

Do you know if ACV topically can speed up or enhance absorption of the solution it mixed in? Similar to how vitamin E can increase absorption into skin since it can open up the cell better.

what do you find actually works best for you for sure? cause you seem to be using something different every month lol.

What do you mean for sure lol? I just started this two days ago, so nothing is for sure yet, it just makes my hair much thicker and scalp healthier and shedding decreased a lot, give it a try it is super cheap.

Look at the OP I mention everything there from all experiments that go back over two years ago, I haven't experimented with anything in a while before trying black seed oil w/ ACV. Just because I post about it doesn't mean I'm doing it LOL.

I can't try a lot of the stuff in a PFS state still because a lot of the stuff kills my libido and makes me feel like shit like zinc and manganese.
 

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mattyb post_id=5511 time=1512060474 user_id=95 said:
TubZy post_id=5508 time=1512052836 user_id=2 said:
mattyb post_id=5418 time=1511965347 user_id=95 said:
I might give the ACV thing a go, ACV has the same pH as skin, so I could see how it would be good. How do you get it to stay on your head though, especially for a bald guy like me? I feel like it would just fall straight off. I guess I could use some kind of absorbent for it and let that sit on my head....

Do you know if ACV topically can speed up or enhance absorption of the solution it mixed in? Similar to how vitamin E can increase absorption into skin since it can open up the cell better.

I have no idea. Skin pH is around 4.5 and ACV is supposed to be somewhere around 4. So it's slightly acidic, and you think it would open up the cell and increase mineral ionization slightly. But I can't say for sure at all.

OK cool, thanks :cool:
 

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TubZy post_id=5521 time=1512070336 user_id=2 said:
jacknap post_id=5519 time=1512068688 user_id=82 said:
TubZy post_id=5508 time=1512052836 user_id=2 said:
Do you know if ACV topically can speed up or enhance absorption of the solution it mixed in? Similar to how vitamin E can increase absorption into skin since it can open up the cell better.

what do you find actually works best for you for sure? cause you seem to be using something different every month lol.

What do you mean for sure lol? I just started this two days ago, so nothing is for sure yet, it just makes my hair much thicker and scalp healthier and shedding decreased a lot, give it a try it is super cheap.

Look at the OP I mention everything there from all experiments that go back over two years ago, I haven't experimented with anything in a while before trying black seed oil w/ ACV. Just because I post about it doesn't mean I'm doing it LOL.

I can't try a lot of the stuff in a PFS state still because a lot of the stuff kills my libido and makes me feel like shit like zinc and manganese.

How long did you try zinc and mang for? It killed my libido too but only for about 3-4 days.
 
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I believe the reason ACV works is because it is a natural calcium channel blocker,it is probably removing calcium from the hair follicle.
 

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Bigmike01 post_id=5536 time=1512082270 user_id=1396 said:
I believe the reason ACV works is because it is a natural calcium channel blocker,it is probably removing calcium from the hair follicle.

Could be.
 

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Bigmike01 post_id=5536 time=1512082270 user_id=1396 said:
I believe the reason ACV works is because it is a natural calcium channel blocker,it is probably removing calcium from the hair follicle.

So it should be harmful for fast oxidizers as the have different reason of balding while it is not. Isn't more about the fact that scalp ph is about 4-5, while most of the shampoo are above 7. Try to wash your hair and face with a soap that ph is near 9-10. I did it and the next day had dandruff even on my beard and eyebrows and it itched so f*cking hard...
 

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Is anybody showing any signs of success or that something positive is happening whilst on zinc and manganese?

I've been on it for about six weeks and have noticed no difference in hair shedding. May even be worse. In that time, I've also been adopting a slow oxidiser diet.

Would be good to hear from others.
 

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Blue88 post_id=5598 time=1512203112 user_id=144 said:
Is anybody showing any signs of success or that something positive is happening whilst on zinc and manganese?

I've been on it for about six weeks and have noticed no difference in hair shedding. May even be worse. In that time, I've also been adopting a slow oxidiser diet.

Would be good to hear from others.

I havent seen any results too.
 

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Blue88 post_id=5598 time=1512203112 user_id=144 said:
Is anybody showing any signs of success or that something positive is happening whilst on zinc and manganese?

I've been on it for about six weeks and have noticed no difference in hair shedding. May even be worse. In that time, I've also been adopting a slow oxidiser diet.

Would be good to hear from others.

what is your story? what is up with you boron?

Zinc and manganese are only for slow oxidizers. Slow oxidizer is high calcium high magnesium , low sodium low potassium.

Low ratios has to be. CA/K and NA/Mg



I need to see your blood calcium level. If high. You need to check your parathyroid gland. it looks like it is superactive
This can cause your hairloss by calcifying everything around.

You should def not take mangnese, since manganese increases prolactin which increases calcium.

Lets see prolactin, and lets see PTH in blood, plus calcium in blood

If calcium in blood high and pth high. may be you are taking vitamin D ?


I am not sure where this calcium is coming from since to me you look like fast oxidizer.
 

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gbolduev post_id=5608 time=1512220939 user_id=90 said:
Blue88 post_id=5598 time=1512203112 user_id=144 said:
Is anybody showing any signs of success or that something positive is happening whilst on zinc and manganese?

I've been on it for about six weeks and have noticed no difference in hair shedding. May even be worse. In that time, I've also been adopting a slow oxidiser diet.

Would be good to hear from others.

what is your story? what is up with you boron?

Zinc and manganese are only for slow oxidizers. Slow oxidizer is high calcium high magnesium , low sodium low potassium.

Low ratios has to be. CA/K and NA/Mg



I need to see your blood calcium level. If high. You need to check your parathyroid gland. it looks like it is superactive
This can cause your hairloss by calcifying everything around.

You should def not take mangnese, since manganese increases prolactin which increases calcium.

Lets see prolactin, and lets see PTH in blood, plus calcium in blood

If calcium in blood high and pth high. let's hope this is just vitamin D deficiency or overload
 

Greg313

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Where is everyone doing their hair mineral analysis? Been doing Zn + Mn for a couple months and not sure if I’m seeing improvement. Probably a little improvement. Did a few salt scrubs and applied polysorbate 80’a few time too.

Also, should one be taking the zinc manganese combo before, during or after a breuss fast?
 

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gbolduev post_id=5608 time=1512220939 user_id=90 said:
Blue88 post_id=5598 time=1512203112 user_id=144 said:
Is anybody showing any signs of success or that something positive is happening whilst on zinc and manganese?

I've been on it for about six weeks and have noticed no difference in hair shedding. May even be worse. In that time, I've also been adopting a slow oxidiser diet.

Would be good to hear from others.

what is your story? what is up with you boron?

Zinc and manganese are only for slow oxidizers. Slow oxidizer is high calcium high magnesium , low sodium low potassium.

Low ratios has to be. CA/K and NA/Mg



I need to see your blood calcium level. If high. You need to check your parathyroid gland. it looks like it is superactive
This can cause your hairloss by calcifying everything around.

You should def not take mangnese, since manganese increases prolactin which increases calcium.

Lets see prolactin, and lets see PTH in blood, plus calcium in blood

If calcium in blood high and pth high. may be you are taking vitamin D ?


I am not sure where this calcium is coming from since to me you look like fast oxidizer.

Gbold, I read somewhere that boron's highest density is found in parathyroid glands. Is boron required for the production of PTH ?
 

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dante post_id=5628 time=1512238821 user_id=109 said:
gbolduev post_id=5608 time=1512220939 user_id=90 said:
Blue88 post_id=5598 time=1512203112 user_id=144 said:
Is anybody showing any signs of success or that something positive is happening whilst on zinc and manganese?

I've been on it for about six weeks and have noticed no difference in hair shedding. May even be worse. In that time, I've also been adopting a slow oxidiser diet.

Would be good to hear from others.

what is your story? what is up with you boron?

Zinc and manganese are only for slow oxidizers. Slow oxidizer is high calcium high magnesium , low sodium low potassium.

Low ratios has to be. CA/K and NA/Mg



I need to see your blood calcium level. If high. You need to check your parathyroid gland. it looks like it is superactive
This can cause your hairloss by calcifying everything around.

You should def not take mangnese, since manganese increases prolactin which increases calcium.

Lets see prolactin, and lets see PTH in blood, plus calcium in blood

If calcium in blood high and pth high. may be you are taking vitamin D ?


I am not sure where this calcium is coming from since to me you look like fast oxidizer.

Gbold, I read somewhere that boron's highest density is found in parathyroid glands. Is boron required for the production of PTH ?

yes, boron is for PTH. as iodine for thyroid. that is why I saw super high calcium in his hair , and low boron, and assumed, there is something wrong with his parathyroid. since all other minerals were good. and his balance is actually not that bad.

But I am not sure what he is taking so not sure what caused this.
 

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[mention]gbolduev[/mention] thanks for taking the time to take a look. I am going to get the tests you mentioned.

For reference, here is my supplement stack:

- MSM Sulfur
- modifilan
- zinc
- manganese
- Thorne B Complex #6
- Ecklonia Cava
- Curcumin and transveratrol
- Acetyl l carnitine
- stabilised lipoic acid
- magnesium
- krill oil
- scute
- rutin
- k2
- vitamin a
- vitamin c
- immune boost 77
- taurine

Note that hair loss started before taking this stack.

Grateful if you could let me know what should be gotten rid of and what they should be replaced with if that is the case.

What is usually the best treatment for hyperparathyroidism?

Does it appear that I'm actually a fast oxidiser and not slow?
 

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It would be best to know what were you taking before the hairtest. This stack is wrong as far as I am concerned.

I need to know what were you taking to cause this high calcium like that. It is not from metabolism

you cant do tests while you take stuff. WHY oh why are you taking all this crap. Try not to take any supplements for a little bit , and then do the tests. All what you taking is impacting your blood, I have no idea where you are. I am against supplements.

You need to figure out what is wrong with you first, and then supplement. but to take a long list of nonsense is very risky
 

Blue88

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Sorry, I've been taking that stack for the past two years. I only added manganese after hair test 6-8 weeks ago. At the same the I dropped Vitamin D.

Any ideas?
 

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may be this calcium was from vitamin D that you have been taking all this time.
You need to drop everything and retest hair. in a month , of course if you want to.