What to test, for zinc finger

[Helen]

It would be best for people to test this with the actual blood tests. And then we will know for sure know . This is the exact mechanism. And people will be fixed within 2-3 weeks on this, instead of crazy protocols that take years.

Just need to test histidine, histamine, cysteine. folic acid, copper level in blood along with ceruloplasmin, iron panel. insulin.

and know for sure where you are and then try things.

For people who cant test anything. You just need to try things I guess, may be original zinc finger is ok since it has everything in there.

Or try different routes for high and low histidine.

 

[TubZy]

It would be best for people to test this with the actual blood tests. And then we will know for sure know . This is the exact mechanism. And people will be fixed within 2-3 weeks on this, instead of crazy protocols that take years.

Just need to test histidine, histamine, cysteine. folic acid, copper level in blood along with ceruloplasmin, iron panel. insulin.

and know for sure where you are and then try things.

For people who cant test anything. You just need to try things I guess, may be original zinc finger is ok since it has everything in there.

Or try diferrent routes for high and low histidine.

Blood or hair?

 

[tanedout]

It would be best for people to test this with the actual blood tests.
Just need to test histidine, histamine, cysteine. folic acid, copper level in blood along with ceruloplasmin, iron panel. insulin.

Gbol, do you think urine testing for amino acids is likely useful, or just serum? Genova diagnostics offer a urine test which gives a full amino acid panel (inc histidine and cysteine), as well as some minerals and vitamins;

https://www.gdx.net/core/sample-reports/Amino-Acids-FMV-Sample-Report.pdf

Clinician Services | Genova Diagnositcs

 

[Helen]

Gbol, do you think urine testing for amino acids is likely useful, or just serum? Genova diagnostics offer a urine test which gives a full amino acid panel, as well as some minerals and vitamins; https://www.gdx.net/core/sample-reports/Amino-Acids-FMV-Sample-Report.pdf

Clinician Services | Genova Diagnositcs

Both would be really great. If we can get some people tested for aminos in urine and blood. Oh man, that would answer a lot of questions.

 

[Jamie]

@gbolduev, @mattyb Maybe it would be good to suggest certain labs to do so that it will be easier in the future to assess somebody's issue looking on the labs?

 

[Aleksandr]

This is not a protocol yet, I am yet to figure out, if cysteine plus histidine lower cortisol or increase it. This why we are still trying.

Selenium yes, I mentioned it on the first page also

What test do we need to do to find if low or high histidine?
Amino acids: plasma?

 

[Helen]

What test do we need to do to find if low or high histidine?
Amino acids: plasma?

March it would be nice to do plasma and urine. If you could do this it would be good. PLus test insulin levels with it. Since we have high and low insulin cases.

 

[Canari]

Why not the hair test?
4. Hair bulb analysis – 23 minerals, 13 vitamins, 19 amino acids and 7 hormones | Hair Mineral Analysis UK

Hair bulb analysis – 23 minerals, 13 vitamins, 19 amino acids and 7 hormones

£189.00

 

[Helen]

We have 2 groups of people here, DONT FORGET IT< high histamine ones and low histamines ones. In one we need to lower histidine and in others increase it.

Everyone looks at this zinc finger thing and see histidine cysteine. , that is it. This theory in the first post says taht they can be upregulated or downregulated.

Most likely we need to look at it as fast or slow oxidizer, and high and low histamine.

 

[Helen]

Insulin puts sugar inside. and it is all connected to cortisol, and thyroid. That is why thyroid, D1 enzyme, cortisol receptor and insulin have the same components. And this is why you can basically grade people into low and high histamine.

 

[Canari]

Just need to test histidine, histamine, cysteine. folic acid, copper level in blood along with ceruloplasmin, iron panel. insulin.

and know for sure where you are and then try things.

Can you check if something needs to be added? So that we do not get our veins punctured more time than needed!

What can be the difference between a blood test and a urine test, and a heir bulb test?

 

[raven]

Sorry if it's been asked before but I can't find it, what exactly should we be testing for here?

 

[raven]

Ah found it:
histidine, histamine, cysteine. folic acid, copper level in blood along with ceruloplasmin, iron panel. insulin.

 

[Pabs90]

Hello everyone. I am spanish and I´ve been suffering the PFS for 3 years now.

I want to ask for a test but It needs to be as complete as possible in order for me to begin with the right protocol. That´s why I just want to confirm that I need to test this:

1) (Urine and blood): Histidine, histamine, cysteine, folic acide, copper, iron panel and insulin.
2) (Hair): Calcium/Magnesium ratio, sodium/potasium ratio, calcium/potasium ratio, sodium/magnesium ratio and zinc/copper ratio.

Thank you all!

 

[Trump_1776]

Insulin puts sugar inside. and it is all connected to cortisol, and thyroid. That is why thyroid, D1 enzyme, cortisol receptor and insulin have the same components. And this is why you can basically grade people into low and high histamine.

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[wuf]

It would be best for people to test this with the actual blood tests. And then we will know for sure know . This is the exact mechanism. And people will be fixed within 2-3 weeks on this, instead of crazy protocols that take years.

Just need to test histidine, histamine, cysteine. folic acid, copper level in blood along with ceruloplasmin, iron panel. insulin.

and know for sure where you are and then try things.

For people who cant test anything. You just need to try things I guess, may be original zinc finger is ok since it has everything in there.

Or try different routes for high and low histidine.

After all the theories, is this still valid?
I can test these stuff in this month if it still has a sense to do it.

 

[Snow1]

Would hydrogen water help both low and high histamine levels? Or would hydrogen water have a negative effect if one was high or low?

Insulin puts sugar inside. and it is all connected to cortisol, and thyroid. That is why thyroid, D1 enzyme, cortisol receptor and insulin have the same components. And this is why you can basically grade people into low and high histamine.

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