ZINC FINGER THEORY DISCUSSION for PFS - 2 cases

[Goose12]

I'm the exact opposite lol, I know histidine increases zinc absorption. It seems like histidine and zinc are related and copper and cysteine are. @Scenes used copper and cysteine fine but zinc messed him up too.

So maybe you could try histidine + zinc first

Thanks, I will give Histadine and zinc a try and update everyone on any changes.

When I tried copper and it's cofactors I got dark circles under my eyes, pain in my side, digestion issues, and zero labido. Zinc reversed it in two days and put me back to my current baseline. I never thought a mineral could do that.

 

[Scenes]

I'm the exact opposite lol, I know histidine increases zinc absorption. It seems like histidine and zinc are related and copper and cysteine are. @Scenes used copper and cysteine fine but zinc messed him up too.

So maybe you could try histidine + zinc first

If copper just doesn’t work for you, try:

histidine + zinc + manganese.

Or just wait till he tells you what to take!

 

[Helen]

WAIT, WAIT WAIT WAIT. Tubzy and I we are trying things. I need to totally cure 2-3 different people that I am constantly in touch with . So then we can post the protocols. JUST WAAAAAAAAIT. I know it is hard to wait , but just DO. LOL


And I mean put them in the body chemistry where not only PFS cured , but hairloss also.

Like in case with Scenes, his PFS is gone, but hairloss came back. So I need to create a program for both. Just wait a little bit

Since you guys will not relax when PFS is gone is hairloss shows up, since it is a hard decisions DICK vs HAIR and I know when you are in PFS you say I would trade hair for being normal. It is not the case, when you get your libido energy and libido back. you want hair and it makes you severely depressed.

So we need balance.

@Scenes got rid of PFS, but he wants hair. and he will try anything to get hair, and will probably fuck himself up again. So I need to come up with a solution once and for all. Just wait a little bit.



I posted the zinc finger, it is zinc histidine and cysteine, but zinc finger protocol has ELECTROLYTES, this is 80% of the freaking protocol. And people just take cysteine and histidine, COMMON. It is zinc histidine cysteine combinations , for some zinc, for some histidine, for some cysteine plus electrolytes, READ the protocol.

 

[TubZy]

Thanks, I will give Histadine and zinc a try and update everyone on any changes.

When I tried copper and it's cofactors I got dark circles under my eyes, pain in my side, digestion issues, and zero labido. Zinc reversed it in two days and put me back to my current baseline. I never thought a mineral could do that.

Yeah, copper slows metabolism that is probably why.

But, I know gbol wants to steer people away from this method until people do testing and things get finalized, but since you have the stuff already and are willing to experiment it is up to you lol.

 

[Helen]

Thanks, I will give Histadine and zinc a try and update everyone on any changes.

When I tried copper and it's cofactors I got dark circles under my eyes, pain in my side, digestion issues, and zero labido. Zinc reversed it in two days and put me back to my current baseline. I never thought a mineral could do that.

this is why you are doing good , on zinc, and electrolytes, like potassium. Since this is your zinc finger.

just wait for a little bit, if you were doing good, then stick with what is good, you seem to be doing right things.

 

[Helen]

You should understand that without electrolytes you cant get rid of PFS or PSSD. Can't You need to get rid of alkalosis in one case with volume expansion and in another case with volume depletion. FOR that you need to use electrolytes with zinc finger stuff.


Just wait a little bit we will outline exact protocols soon, they were already outlined. but for some reason people take garbage like cysteine and histidine, It is not a protocol. this is ridiculous.

@TubZy You started this cysteine histidine stuff LOL Now your turn to stop it LOL

 

[K8668B]

Thanks, I will give Histadine and zinc a try and update everyone on any changes.

When I tried copper and it's cofactors I got dark circles under my eyes, pain in my side, digestion issues, and zero labido. Zinc reversed it in two days and put me back to my current baseline. I never thought a mineral could do that.

I can relate.

 

[TubZy]

If copper just doesn’t work for you, try:

histidine + zinc + manganese.

Or just wait till he tells you what to take!

How are you now dude

 

[Helen]

How are you now dude

HE WANTS HAIR, TUBZ. LOTS OF HAIR ..

 

[B_D_Acc]

HE WANTS HAIR, TUBZ. LOTS OF HAIR ..

I'm confused as to why you are trying to address hair loss as well. Do you think it's actually possible?

My understanding was that androgenic alopecia was genetic and androgen mediated and therefore unavoidable so long as you have DHT in your system. Are you trying to block it through some other mechanism or is my understanding of this wrong?

 

[bruschi11]

I'm confused as to why you are trying to address hair loss as well. Do you think it's actually possible?

My understanding was that androgenic alopecia was genetic and androgen mediated and therefore unavoidable so long as you have DHT in your system. Are you trying to block it through some other mechanism or is my understanding of this wrong?

Per @gbolduev (and many like myself will agree with him), hair loss, pfs they are all mineral pathway based problems that can be fixed.

He thinks he can fix both... I’m listening.

 

[TubZy]

I'm confused as to why you are trying to address hair loss as well. Do you think it's actually possible?

My understanding was that androgenic alopecia was genetic and androgen mediated and therefore unavoidable so long as you have DHT in your system. Are you trying to block it through some other mechanism or is my understanding of this wrong?

Experimental Hair Loss Options

 

[JonnyCraig]

@Scenes got rid of PFS, but he wants hair. and he will try anything to get hair, and will probably **** himself up again. So I need to come up with a solution once and for all. Just wait a little bit.

@gbolduev for the hyoooooge win.

 

[Steve]

You should understand that without electrolytes you cant get rid of PFS or PSSD. Can't You need to get rid of alkalosis in one case with volume expansion and in another case with volume depletion. FOR that you need to use electrolytes with zinc finger stuff.


Just wait a little bit we will outline exact protocols soon, they were already outlined. but for some reason people take garbage like cysteine and histidine, It is not a protocol. this is ridiculous.

@TubZy You started this cysteine histidine stuff LOL Now your turn to stop it LOL

I'm happy for a protocol just for pfs and happy to wait on the hairloss if you have the protocol for pfs ready? If not, all good.

 

[wuf]

HE WANTS HAIR, TUBZ. LOTS OF HAIR ..

Get a f***** hair tranplant if you want hair as I did and all your problems are fixed!! ...Hair!! Female cares about hair.. we are men, and after this shit you should keep yourself safe and if you want hair, get an hair tranplant. Easy fast safe and not expensive...and head full of hair!!

 

[hairloser]

Get a f***** hair tranplant if you want hair as I did and all your problems are fixed!! ...Hair!! Female cares about hair.. we are men, and after this **** you should keep yourself safe and if you want hair, get an hair tranplant. Easy fast safe and not expensive...and head full of hair!!

Lol, you can't fix hair with transplant only unless your hair loss is minimal and you are already over 30-35 ( means not aggresive balding )

 

[wuf]

Lol, you can't fix hair with transplant only unless your hair loss is minimal and you are already over 30-35 ( means not aggresive balding )

i was 85% bald.

 

[Helen]

i was 85% bald.

Yeah, if you were 85 % bald and now have hair. How does it look. the transplants I saw look bad. like fake hair. it is better to be bald than to have fake looking hair.

And dont those people put you on fin afterwards. since it will just fall out without it again,

 

[freeflow]

Anyways, its better to be recovered, start losing hair and wait for a possible hair loss optimization protocol than to be in pfs and wait for recovery.

 

[Scenes]

To save answering a bunch of pm’s on this (don’t feel bad):

Copper + potassium + magnesium for a couple of weeks, then cysteine was the kicker.

When I added cysteine to this, I was what I’d call cured. No more sexual pfs symptoms, energy was good, mood good, confidence good.

I’m told selenium is a good addition to this as well.

I’m not worried about stuffing it up by trying different things as I’ve seen how fast the minerals/aminos change things for me. I’ve played around with it a fair bit already, more than what gbold would like me too. Over the last couple of months I’ve added things (like zinc) that made me worse, and been able to correct it quickly.

I got overzealous on the copper + cysteine and dropped the rest of the minerals copper needs to be taken with (mag and potassium), and I think it drastically slowed my metabolism! No appetite, dry callous peeling skin on hands, dry skin on face and thinning/shedding hair.

Been able to correct that as well by just stopping copper and I think adding a little histidine helped.

Don’t follow my advice though, gbold doesn’t always condone my experimenting...be patient. The only thing I’d say go for it is the opening post protocol in this thread.