ZINC FINGER THEORY DISCUSSION for PFS - 2 cases

[MNK99]

Oh yeah ok. Thanks again.
I just wasn't sure if that was for every type of lab.

 

[Steve]

I tested whole blood. urine, with provocation. I never could take magnesium and I could not understand why. then i got it. I had huge lead levels in blood everytime I took magnesium, since magnesium increases PTH and calcium from bone goes into blood. and lead comes out. Then I tried to power thru this magnesium and it worked. but with very very bad effects. Like hairloss, totally hair greying, anemia. Mangesium is a dangerous mineral for people with lead toxicity, and it is the mineral that will get rid of it. but side effects of it will be not a joke.

My hair lead levels were normal, and the minute I would take magnesium or fasting. My lead levels would just sky rocket on the hairtest.

After breuss protocol. My levels of mercury lead, uranium arsenic were sky HIGH.


This is why I say that swimming in the ocean is so good. ocean chelates you and chelates you fast.

Can ocean swimming help with pfs with the electrolytes we need?

 

[Willylong98]

Does anyone know if I should take progesterone with my ru trial if i have low cortisol

 

[Goose12]

Does anyone know if I should take progesterone with my ru trial if i have low cortisol

The theory is that when you're cortisol rebounds from RU it will be be more sensitive. Do you have low cortisol symptoms?

 

[Willylong98]

The theory is that when you're cortisol rebounds from RU it will be be more sensitive. Do you have low cortisol symptoms?

Yes to the extreme.

 

[Steve]

@gbolduev
I am going to do the full zinc finger protocl i.e. starting with histidine, serine and aspartic acid, then the amino acids, then the electrolytes, then the brewers yeast and then the spinach.

I have a couple of questions.

1. By aspartic acid, do you mean d-aspartic acid?
2. When you say if we are low in sodium to take the electrolyte product you recommended, what if we aren't low? What electrolyte product would you recommend?
3. I read betaine hcl can raise cholesterol. Do you agree with this?

I will report back to see how I go. I am happy to be a test case for the full zinc finger protocol if gbol would want to work with me.

 

[Helen]

@gbolduev
I am going to do the full zinc finger protocl i.e. starting with histidine, serine and aspartic acid, then the amino acids, then the electrolytes, then the brewers yeast and then the spinach.

I have a couple of questions.

1. By aspartic acid, do you mean d-aspartic acid?
2. When you say if we are low in sodium to take the electrolyte product you recommended, what if we aren't low? What electrolyte product would you recommend?
3. I read betaine hcl can raise cholesterol. Do you agree with this?

I will report back to see how I go. I am happy to be a test case for the full zinc finger protocol if gbol would want to work with me.

NO you dont . this is not a protocol. cant you read the thread. people are doing better on on cysteine.

@TubZy I wish I can change the first post. People are just screwing themeselves over.

WE don't even know whether zinc finger upregulated or downregulated. the only thing people can try is what made other people better.


this is really stupid that the first post cant be changed, that is all people see


I said that I am trying to balance a few people now and then we will post protocol. people are still not balanced, and we ARe not using zinc finger protocol as outlined on the first post.

Of course you can try it.

 

[Canari]

@gbolduev , you can edit the first post, you have mod abilities. I wanted to stop mod just because I was too tempted to spend time, and it was taking too much, to help things be clear, if the form of the forum was not made to help more of this. I know that what I proposed would work and make things easier. Now you have a part with disorders and a part with general health. But some disorders have things in common, and gneral health is the goal also for people who have disorders! We need 1st forum not about disorders but about theory around health. then we need a part with protocoles, and also a part that is in everyday living and eating etc, healthy living.

 

[Steve]

NO you dont . this is not a protocol. cant you read the thread. people are doing better on on cysteine.

@TubZy I wish I can change the first post. People are just screwing themeselves over.

WE don't even know whether zinc finger upregulated or downregulated. the only thing people can try is what made other people better.


this is really stupid that the first post cant be changed, that is all people see


I said that I am trying to balance a few people now and then we will post protocol. people are still not balanced, and we ARe not using zinc finger protocol as outlined on the first post.

Of course you can try it.

Apologies for any misunderstanding.

Isn’t cysteine bad for the heart?

I am happy to have a protocol that just gets rid of pfs but doesn’t stop hairloss if you have that ready? I think most people would rather be out of pfs and then worry about fixing hairloss than be stuck with pfs.

 

[Steve]

NO you dont . this is not a protocol. cant you read the thread. people are doing better on on cysteine.

@TubZy I wish I can change the first post. People are just screwing themeselves over.

WE don't even know whether zinc finger upregulated or downregulated. the only thing people can try is what made other people better.


this is really stupid that the first post cant be changed, that is all people see


I said that I am trying to balance a few people now and then we will post protocol. people are still not balanced, and we ARe not using zinc finger protocol as outlined on the first post.

Of course you can try it.

Went for a swim in the ocean and it has made me worse.

Any reasons for that?

 

[wuf]

NO you dont . this is not a protocol. cant you read the thread. people are doing better on on cysteine.

@TubZy I wish I can change the first post. People are just screwing themeselves over.

WE don't even know whether zinc finger upregulated or downregulated. the only thing people can try is what made other people better.


this is really stupid that the first post cant be changed, that is all people see


I said that I am trying to balance a few people now and then we will post protocol. people are still not balanced, and we ARe not using zinc finger protocol as outlined on the first post.

Of course you can try it.

We all need blood tests guys.
That's the main point from where to start if you don't want to gambling!
I am having mine soon.

 

[TubZy]

NO you dont . this is not a protocol. cant you read the thread. people are doing better on on cysteine.

@TubZy I wish I can change the first post. People are just screwing themeselves over.

WE don't even know whether zinc finger upregulated or downregulated. the only thing people can try is what made other people better.


this is really stupid that the first post cant be changed, that is all people see


I said that I am trying to balance a few people now and then we will post protocol. people are still not balanced, and we ARe not using zinc finger protocol as outlined on the first post.

Of course you can try it.

ok hold on I just got back home from vacation

 

[K8668B]

I never said i was trying anything at this moment yet. I will try it when it has been tested and completed. i was just stating my happiness for this thread because of how i randomly tried zinc a few weeks back and had a good reaction to it. and that was before i even discovered this thread.

I personally dont care about hair anymore. i havent in awhile. if i can just fix pfs, then thats all i care about. ill go without the hair. id rather FEEL good, and function good sexually, and have good energy.

im working on getting bloodwork done too. i agree with that, WUF. No more gambling either. Ive done that with mild stuff in the past, and was lucky enough to come back from it. wont try it again. gonna quit that bs while im ahead! be safe and be smart!

 

[freeflow]

I never said i was trying anything at this moment yet. I will try it when it has been tested and completed. i was just stating my happiness for this thread because of how i randomly tried zinc a few weeks back and had a good reaction to it. and that was before i even discovered this thread.

I personally dont care about hair anymore. i havent in awhile. if i can just fix pfs, then thats all i care about. ill go without the hair. id rather FEEL good, and function good sexually, and have good energy.

im working on getting bloodwork done too. i agree with that, WUF. No more gambling either. Ive done that with mild stuff in the past, and was lucky enough to come back from it. wont try it again. gonna quit that bs while im ahead! be safe and be smart!

Mate, you are taking zinc with copper, not just zinc alone.
Scenes got cured more or less on copper, potassium, magnesium.

 

[bruschi11]

I'm following the first protocol outlined by @gbolduev on this thread. With the histidine hcl, serine, apartic acid, and betaine HCL each morning and night. Also the Eidon electrolytes mineral supplement (morn, night) and some bee pollen here and there. I'm on my 6th day and doing very well as you can read on my blog - Hacking PFS & CFS: Bruschi's Log .

Again I was 15-20% sexually, bumped to 35%-40 from Prog, RU now looking at 55-60% with this ZF so far I'd say. This is all in 6 weeks.

I'm going to ride this for the next 7 days then potentially add cysteine which I have as well. What do you think @gbolduev ?

 

[Jaxx]

I feel a post in capslock coming up...

 

[Orion]

I feel a post in capslock coming up...

@bruschi11 gbolduev has mentioned in a few threads that the zinc finger theory should not be used as a protocol, as were not sure who is down or up regulated.

Do you think you are getting positive results?

 

[bruschi11]

@Orion the last few days have been by my best with PFS. I'm 6 days into ZF.

But also I have been waiting for cortisol to come back as I was blocking it for literally the majority of 70 days or so there. 21 day fast, then 2 weeks without blocking it. Then I blocked cort with RU, and progesterone for a full month. Cortisol finally coming back again these past 3 days as well so it might be a combination of this and the ZF protocol.

Its very easy to tell for me when cortisol isn't or is working. When its blocked, not working I get really bad light sensitivity and fatigue.

 

[K8668B]

Mate, you are taking zinc with copper, not just zinc alone.
Scenes got cured more or less on copper, potassium, magnesium.

Yeah, my zinc supplement also has copper in it. copper sebacate 300 mcg. and zinc monomethionine 30mg. in "normal" people, theres supposed to be a certain zinc to copper balance i hear. I just grabbed this one, and i got lucky and it gave me a positive reaction. I have some brain fog today, but i literally was extremely energetic yesterday. My digestion has been better on this too.

Im happy for Scenes. Im always happy to hear about a recovery. Thats a convenient recovery. With my body type it would probably take more. I had a good reaction to a certain kinda of magnesium awhile back. But i cant get my hands on that brand and type again.

 

[Slayo]

@gbolduev have you somenthing to suggest to people with extreme deidrathathion in order to mantain fluids ? My life is hell because of this, today i ended up again in the er, tomorrow i will test adh to see if i have diabetes insipidous, i'm always thirsty water doesn't do anything, salt and potassium aren't helping anymore while in the past they were, it is some days that i don't sleep at all because of the thirst and if i try to sleep i feel either bradichardia or tachicardia and i feel like i'm collapsing and needing to stand up