Manu's Log

Yura

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Finally got my ARL report. Na/K ratio still low.
I'm finally a slow oxidizer
Hehe almost the same as mine test

Your manganese is even lower than mine. How much manganese ARL wants you to take I assume at least 20mg right..
I don't think taking 30 pills is a problem. Just buy some pill organiser for 7 days with 3 slots for each day and you are good. Taking each dose from bottler would be pain in the ass that's for sure..

Hair tests are great, but I think we should learn how it feels when your Na/k is low or high based on symptoms so you can take lets say more copper or eat some copper rich foods when that ratio drops etc. and not wait many months for retesting and potentially taking wrong stuff for current biochemistry.. It is simply too slow/rigid system. Unless you are testing like every 2 months which basically nobody does and even that can be too long period for taking some specific ratios of micronutrients without any corrections....
Jacob and his HG7 does much better job with this.
I wish nutritional balancing people were more progressive.. Like for example ARL is not working with molybdenum at all etc..
 
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manu

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Hehe almost the same as mine test

Your manganese is even lower than mine. How much manganese ARL wants you to take I assume at least 20mg right..
I don't think taking 30 pills is a problem. Just buy some pill organiser for 7 days with 3 slots for each day and you are good. Taking each dose from bottler would be pain in the ass that's for sure..

Hair tests are great, but I think we should learn how it feels when your Na/k is low or high based on symptoms so you can take lets say more copper or eat some copper rich foods when that ratio drops etc. and not wait many months for retesting and potentially taking wrong stuff for current biochemistry.. It is simply too slow/rigid system. Unless you are testing like every 2 months which basically nobody does and even that can be too long period for taking some specific ratios of micronutrients without any corrections....
Jacob and his HG7 does much better job with this.
I wish nutritional balancing people were more progressive.. Like for example ARL is not working with molybdenum at all etc..
LOL I'm glad ARL never changes it program!
If you want a more progressive program just go to Luke etc. LOL
Or Dr Wilson... so much progressive practitioners everywhere haha

Told you we are in a very similar body chemistry. That's why we have a lot of symptoms in common like nasal polyps and vein issues.
This constant state of stress which you described - I had that too...
I have improved so much on that program. I wish the same for you!
 

Yura

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@manu haha I knew you will react like that. Dude I am ARL camp all day as well. But that doesn't mean that there will be nothing new useful outside of work of Paul Eck..
Even himself would disagree with you which would be really funny heh..
I am not following Luke and those guys. I know that they know much less than Paul Eck. ARL for now is superior to them 100%.
That's why I wish there would be someone really smart who can move it forward. I don't see anyone like that in this space right now.
Ironically the most interesting guy is that Jacob with his HG7 protocol who knows nothing basically about biochemistry. But still he came up with some interesting stuff like that iron/copper connection for example.
ARL is not addressing any of that. They have no idea if you are overloaded with iron for example and with iron there is no "dumping happening" It will stay in you forever if you don't bleed and you have shit loads of it.. That is just one example out of many..
 
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manu

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@manu haha I knew you will react like that. Dude I am ARL camp all day as well. But that doesn't mean that there will be nothing new useful outside of work of Paul Eck..
Even himself would disagree with you which would be really funny heh..
I am not following Luke and those guys. I know that they know much less than Paul Eck. ARL for now is superior to them 100%.
That's why I wish there would be someone really smart who can move it forward. I don't see anyone like that in this space right now.
Ironically the most interesting guy is that Jacob with his HG7 protocol who knows nothing basically about biochemistry. But still he came up with some interesting stuff like that iron/copper connection for example.
ARL is not addressing any of that. They have no idea if you are overloaded with iron for example and with iron there is no "dumping happening" It will stay in you forever if you don't bleed and you have shit loads of it.. That is just one example out of many..
Oh there is useful stuff outside of Paul Eck that's for sure... I have used a lot of things apart of ARL as seen in my log.
 

ruprmurdoch

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Yes and of course this could be a source of mercury. I was just wondering why it is visible now and not in the past...
you chelate yourself with wormwood and other metal chelating herbs, dont you ? as far as i remember it is hard and long to chelate mercury (helen wrote), so it appears after long time. of course if you havent ingested it somehow recently. maybe you should like helen advice support your gluthanione system and still continue chelation. but anyhow you have your arl plan so it is your choice.
as far as i can speak from my experience, i loaded huge doses of Mg, and after few months on htma aluminium appears, which is logical from chemical point of view. and aluminium on htma from this time is more or less elevated.
 

manu

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you chelate yourself with wormwood and other metal chelating herbs, dont you ? as far as i remember it is hard and long to chelate mercury (helen wrote), so it appears after long time. of course if you havent ingested it somehow recently. maybe you should like helen advice support your gluthanione system and still continue chelation. but anyhow you have your arl plan so it is your choice.
as far as i can speak from my experience, i loaded huge doses of Mg, and after few months on htma aluminium appears, which is logical from chemical point of view. and aluminium on htma from this time is more or less elevated.
Interesting, yes maybe that's the reason.
May I ask you what amount you did take and what forms of Mg? Mg oxide is very hard on the stomach in huge doses... so I guess it was some other form right?
 

Yura

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@manu I had even higher mercury. It was from amalgams in combination with bad diet low in key minerals like selenium, iodine..
Your selenium is pretty low. It is the most important antagonist to mercury. If you have low Na/K ratio you will not do great on high magnesium dose. It will lower sodium even more, You need selenium and slowly add some iodine as well. I am sure you have them in ARL protocol..
 

ruprmurdoch

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Yes I will go on ARL no worries. I was just interested in what @ruprmurdoch did...
It is always interesting to learn from other experiences.
mgcl-one pill have 64 mg of magnesium ions. i was taking 3-4 pills daily for 2-3 months many times with potassium (kcl form). but yeah it will make you feel bad beacuse it make na / k ratio low.
chelation is usually unpleasant.