Mineral Interrelationships

tanedout

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gbolduev post_id=4500 time=1510960482 user_id=90 said:
tanedout post_id=4497 time=1510959657 user_id=523 said:
Interesting stuff, I really need to try and figure out why, despite hair mineral analysis saying it's ok, I have consistently low blood phosphorous - quite a long way below the minimum range on some tests, and it causes heart issues for me.

I've actually just ordered some monosodium phosphate powder to try supplementing it directly. I'm presumably using lots of it, but I've not idea why that would be!

Low phosphorus happens in alkalosis , in resp alkalosis

Thanks Gbolduev, wasn't aware of that! I think I should maybe just get straight onto one of your protools then! I was intending to try and sort the low phosphates issue first, and also issues I'm having which are seemingly with bile flow (taking TUDCA for this, and very bitter herbs like Tribulus also help here). Sure that would go fine alongside the copper + magnesium though
 

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I feel totally stuck with my analysis and do not know what to take. TE wants to give me glandulars, ok fine, but they are also full of a large panel of diverse minerals. Then I have high copper/zinc ratio in hair, but know I have it the reverse in blood. They want to give me more copper! Where is the contrarian approach?
 

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In First-Ever Demonstration, Researchers Show Ultrafast Light Pulses Can Trigger Neurons to Fire


https://futurism.com/neuron-light-pulses/


In a first-ever demonstration, researchers showed how ultrafast and short pulses of light can directly affect the firing of neurons. They hope that this might lead to advanced light therapies for mental health disorders.
LIGHT THERAPY

A host of mental health issues have been tied to light: from trouble related to our circadian rhythms to seasonally-related mood disorders, light can have a profound impact on our health. In a new study, researchers have put this long-held theory to the test using specially crafted ultrafast light pulses that can trigger neurons to fire, as well as altering the patterns in which they fire.

The study, published in the journal Nature Physics, was completed in mice by a team of researchers at the University of Illinois, led by Dr. Stephen Boppart. It’s the first demonstration of coherent control, a practice using light beams to control functionality within a living cell. The success of this demonstration could allow researchers to develop new methods for treating mental health disorders in the future by using light to direct neural activity.

Dr. Boppart and his team used optogenetic mouse neurons, cells with added genes to make them responsive to light. While the team modified these cells, the researchers assert that the same results should be possible in cells that are naturally sensitive to light, like those found in the retina.

Dr. Boppart stated that “The saying, ‘The eye is the window to the soul’ has some merit, because our bodies respond to light. Photoreceptors in our retinas connect to different parts in the brain that control mood, metabolic rhythms and circadian rhythms.”

Neurons have been shown to fire in different patterns in reaction to light pulses. Image Credit: Stephen Boppart, University of Illinois
Neurons have been shown to fire in different patterns in reaction to light pulses. Image Credit: Stephen Boppart, University of Illinois
CIRCADIAN SCIENCE

In nature, biological systems that use and are affected by light do so with the light from the Sun. But within this controlled experiment, the research team used fast pulses of light less than 100 femtoseconds long. This has a different effect than naturally-derived light sources, as it’s a large quantity of energy in a short period of time. The team changed both the length of the pulses and their wavelengths to truly explore the different responses that were possible.

While this first true demonstration of this ability is more of the first step than a complete conclusion, the team is confident that their methods could have clinical applications one day. Dr. Boppart remarked that “Ultimately, this could be a gene-free, drug-free way of regulating cell and tissue function. We think there could be ‘opto-ceuticals,’ methods of treating patients with light.”
References: Phys, Nature
 

tanedout

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Some reading on this has led me to discover Schuessler cell salts, which seem to be fairly easily available from Amazon etc. Not sure if these could be of use for correcting imbalances;
Tissue Salts were first developed by the German doctor, Wilhelm Schuessler, who said ill-health was caused by an imbalance in the bodies twelve vital cell salts. Schuessler believed that these imbalances could be corrected by easily absorbed and homeopathically-prepared, micro-doses of each salt.

Schuessler’s Tissue Salts (also known as biochemic or cell salts) are potentised micro-doses of the 12 essential minerals your body needs to repair and maintain itself.

https://homeopathyplus.com/tissue-salts-a-complete-medicine-chest-for-the-home-prescriber/
 

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tanedout post_id=4578 time=1511041620 user_id=523 said:
Some reading on this has led me to discover Schuessler cell salts, which seem to be fairly easily available from Amazon etc. Not sure if these could be of use for correcting imbalances;
Tissue Salts were first developed by the German doctor, Wilhelm Schuessler, who said ill-health was caused by an imbalance in the bodies twelve vital cell salts. Schuessler believed that these imbalances could be corrected by easily absorbed and homeopathically-prepared, micro-doses of each salt.

Schuessler’s Tissue Salts (also known as biochemic or cell salts) are potentised micro-doses of the 12 essential minerals your body needs to repair and maintain itself.

https://homeopathyplus.com/tissue-salts-a-complete-medicine-chest-for-the-home-prescriber/


Tried those 4 years ago. Did not really balance anything.
 

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[mention]gbolduev[/mention] How sure are you about the alkalosis theory again? And can you give a timeframe of some kind? Does sodium intake matter?
 

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The friend of my father told me that sodium bicarbonate is a "tampon" and using a tea spoon (little one) in a glass of water every morning (and in some cases evening also), it will make your PH in balance...No problem if you have it it alkaline or acid at the moment, being a tampon it will work for both cases...
Is it right?
[mention]gbolduev[/mention]
 

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wuf post_id=4685 time=1511193818 user_id=65 said:
The friend of my father told me that sodium bicarbonate is a "tampon" and using a tea spoon (little one) in a glass of water every morning (and in some cases evening also), it will make your PH in balance...No problem if you have it it alkaline or acid at the moment, it will work for both cases...
Is it right?
@gbolduev

That is wrong. Bicarb will make you more alkaline. So if you are in alkalosis it is the opposite of what you need.
 

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With that said, if bicarb is taken chronically for 3-4 days, it could convince the kidneys to not retain bicarb, and then once you stop it may temporarily put you in acidosis.

But I imagine if the underlying cause of the alkalosis isn't actually fixed, and it probably won't be from this, this will do nothing in the long run.
 

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mattyb post_id=4686 time=1511194475 user_id=95 said:
wuf post_id=4685 time=1511193818 user_id=65 said:
The friend of my father told me that sodium bicarbonate is a "tampon" and using a tea spoon (little one) in a glass of water every morning (and in some cases evening also), it will make your PH in balance...No problem if you have it it alkaline or acid at the moment, it will work for both cases...
Is it right?
@gbolduev

That's is wrong. Bicarb will make you more alkaline. So if you are in alkalosis it is the opposite of what you need.

Who told you this?
I got this suggestion from a chemistry doctor.
I apreciate comments but I want to be sure about what you are talking about..the man who told me is a master and teaching around all the world.
Show me studies if you have, thanks
....said this I really dontt know, so I am just trying to find real info around...and maybe this guy who suggested me is wrong....dont take it personally)))
 

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No one told me this, it is super simple acid-base physiology. Any first year idiot med student will know this. There are literally a million studies on bicarbonate supplementation and it causing alkalosis. Many exercise physiologists have studied this because bicarb can enhance athletic performance by combating lactic acidosis from exercise. Take your pick from any of these studies: https://scholar.google.ca/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=sodium+bicarbonate+supplementation+alkalosis&btnG=

Sodium Bicarbonate is NaHCO3, which dissolves into Na+ and HCO3- in the body.

HCO3- is what causes metabolic alkalosis. You have metabolic alkalosis when HCO3- is high, that's the definition of the disorder. If you already have metabolic alkalosis and you take additional HCO3-, it will make the problem worse because it will drive up HCO3- even higher, making you more alkaline.

Supplementing NaHCO3 when you lack bicarb is great, which is the case for many people with chronic kidney disease who have metabolic acidosis (low bicarb). It will improve outcomes for them by balancing pH.

Wait until I finish my series of posts on acid-base disorders, it should be more clear then.
 

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mattyb post_id=4689 time=1511196129 user_id=95 said:
No one told me this, it is super simple acid-base physiology. Any first year idiot med student will know this. There are literally a million studies on bicarbonate supplementation and it causing alkalosis. Many exercise physiologists have studied this because bicarb can enhance athletic performance by combating lactic acidosis from exercise. Take your pick from any of these studies: https://scholar.google.ca/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=sodium+bicarbonate+supplementation+alkalosis&btnG=

Sodium Bicarbonate is NaHCO3, which dissolves into Na+ and HCO3- in the body.

HCO3- is what causes metabolic alkalosis. You have metabolic alkalosis when HCO3- is high, that's the definition of the disorder. If you already have metabolic alkalosis and you take additional HCO3-, it will make the problem worse because it will drive up HCO3- even higher, making you more alkaline.

Supplementing NaHCO3 when you lack bicarb is great, which is the case for many people with chronic kidney disease who have metabolic acidosis (low bicarb). It will improve outcomes for them by balancing pH.

Wait until I finish my series of posts on acid-base disorders, it should be more clear then.

Ok, thank you for your help.
 

Canari

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Then, do people having chemical multi-sentivity have metabolic acidosis? They take bicarb in lemon juice when they feel bad and under attack by some chemical smells. It even look as if they resuscitate!

And yes, I also know a doctor who advises to take Na bicarb....
 

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wuf post_id=4688 time=1511194618 user_id=65 said:
mattyb post_id=4686 time=1511194475 user_id=95 said:
wuf post_id=4685 time=1511193818 user_id=65 said:
The friend of my father told me that sodium bicarbonate is a "tampon" and using a tea spoon (little one) in a glass of water every morning (and in some cases evening also), it will make your PH in balance...No problem if you have it it alkaline or acid at the moment, it will work for both cases...
Is it right?
@gbolduev

That's is wrong. Bicarb will make you more alkaline. So if you are in alkalosis it is the opposite of what you need.

Who told you this?
I got this suggestion from a chemistry doctor.
I apreciate comments but I want to be sure about what you are talking about..the man who told me is a master and teaching around all the world.
Show me studies if you have, thanks
....said this I really dontt know, so I am just trying to find real info around...and maybe this guy who suggested me is wrong....dont take it personally)))

People take bicarb before working out. I think because exercise increases lactic acid (acidic ph) and the bicarb buffers it (its alkaline ph)
 

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Canari post_id=4715 time=1511216742 user_id=62 said:
Then, do people having chemical multi-sentivity have metabolic acidosis? They take bicarb in lemon juice when they feel bad and under attack by some chemical smells. It even look as if they resuscitate!

And yes, I also know a doctor who advises to take Na bicarb....

Did you ever try it?
Going to try it?
 

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I have tried to take baking soda in lemon juice when getting up, did not find interest and dropped it. Also seemed to me bad for acidity of the stomach. Even with lemon juice I have doubts...

I keep it for occasional recepe for fizzy drink in lemon juice! Very good to add to watermelon juice....
 

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Bicarb will severely impair digestion, at least temporarily. It is extremely alkalizing.
 

Canari

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mattyb post_id=4818 time=1511366459 user_id=95 said:
Bicarb will severely impair digestion, at least temporarily. It is extremely alkalizing.
Is it better with lemon juice?
Why are some people so fan of lemon + baling soda?
I do not use it as I have better results with apple vinegar, but if so (like for the short term stomach burn): Is it of to take some 2 hours after eating? Can it then even help digestion, as anyway at this moment the pancreas also produces some?
 

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wuf post_id=4688 time=1511194618 user_id=65 said:
mattyb post_id=4686 time=1511194475 user_id=95 said:
wuf post_id=4685 time=1511193818 user_id=65 said:
The friend of my father told me that sodium bicarbonate is a "tampon" and using a tea spoon (little one) in a glass of water every morning (and in some cases evening also), it will make your PH in balance...No problem if you have it it alkaline or acid at the moment, it will work for both cases...
Is it right?
@gbolduev

That's is wrong. Bicarb will make you more alkaline. So if you are in alkalosis it is the opposite of what you need.

Who told you this?
I got this suggestion from a chemistry doctor.
I apreciate comments but I want to be sure about what you are talking about..the man who told me is a master and teaching around all the world.
Show me studies if you have, thanks
....said this I really dontt know, so I am just trying to find real info around...and maybe this guy who suggested me is wrong....dont take it personally)))

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27876158