B_D_Acc PAS Log

B_D_Acc

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Making this log for the purpose of detailing what I've tried and what effect it has had for anyone else's benefit. I'll keep this first post updated with what I've tried and what effect it has had.

Took Accutane 20mg for 10 months when I was 19/20 (currently 23). Experienced sever sexual sides towards the end. Expected them to subside on stopping the drug but they didn't. Effects as of now are ED, loss of sensation, loss of libido and loss of orgasm. Might have some milder mental sides but obviously harder to tell.

Began TRT (125mg/week) around 6 months later. Had low end of range Testosterone so it improved my energy levels but didn't help with sexual sides.

Within the first year of stopping I had two 3-4 day periods where the sexual side effect completely ceased and I was back to normal. The first was before TRT I think and the second was while I was on it. This was pretty encouraging as it shows it's reversible but I still don't know what's going on.


Bloods on TRT at 100mg/week


DHEAS 3600 ug/L 1000 - 4000

OESTRADIOL (E2) * 200 pmol/L <150

PROGESTERONE * 3 nmol/L <3

Testosterone 26 nmol/L 10.0 - 33.0

SHBG 25 nmol/L 13 - 71 (older result)

Electrolytes, Liver Function, Kidney Function and Cholesterol tests all normal

LH and FSH are 0


Have tried Cabergoline (Dopamine agonist) to see if prolactin was the cause but it had no major effect.

Recently started taking histidine and cysteine HCl 250-500mg/day. As soon as I started this I started having really vivid dreams. Like 6 distinct memorable dreams per night. Before this I hadn't realised I had basically stopped dreaming.

Currently taking RU-468 (Mifepristone). Will take 50mg for 3 days and then wait and see.
Day 1: Felt a little groggy a couple of hours after first dose but that completely went away so may have been unrelated. Have gained about a 1kg so may be causing me to hold some water.
Day 2: Energy great all day. Slept really well, lots of dreaming. Less anxious but no other effects.
Day 3: Same as day 2.

Will wait for a month to see if there are any rebound/snapback effects and then try 9 days at 50mg.
 
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Flynn

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Well done for being the first PAS person to try RU. There was a problem with payment processing on my order, so will need to find alternative means.

As I said in other thread, please try to be as honest as possible about results. Even if they are negative and not as we hope. It's good to know we have a growing community, that is willing to try new protocols.
 

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Well done for being the first PAS person to try RU. There was a problem with payment processing on my order, so will need to find alternative means.

As I said in other thread, please try to be as honest as possible about results. Even if they are negative and not as we hope. It's good to know we have a growing community, that is willing to try new protocols.

If you do a quick google search with 'India' in the search you should find a few other sites. One I found was significantly cheaper (under $60 a pill) but I can't find it again. Here is one I found just now:
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I'm not super optimistic about it. What made me pull the trigger was the story about the guy who had high progesterone after deca and was fixed by 12 days of 50mg. This way it rules out JUST high progesterone as the cause, which I think given these 3 days having no effect sexually it probably has.
 

B_D_Acc

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Unless of course the problem is progesterone insensitivity in which case there may be some improvements coming off.
 

Flynn

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Yeah as long as you know its real RU.

Yeah well I figured its possible that the problem could be progesterone or glucocorticoid insensitivity, which would result in effects being felt after treatment. But on a 50mg dose, I doubt it does much for glucocorticoid sensitivity.
 

B_D_Acc

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Any updates BD?

Nothing significant has happened. I'll update if anything does. Otherwise I'll just post when I'm gonna take the rest of it.

Are any Accutane people going to try GBol's protocol? @Lost @Flynn @Willylong98

He said it won't work at all or as well on TRT so that rules me out for the time being.
 

Flynn

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Nothing significant has happened. I'll update if anything does. Otherwise I'll just post when I'm gonna take the rest of it.

Are any Accutane people going to try GBol's protocol? @Lost @Flynn @Willylong98

He said it won't work at all or as well on TRT so that rules me out for the time being.

Ok thanks for letting us know. I still think it's worth other guys giving this a go. I have a few more possible options that I'm working on. Check out my post in the PAS and PSSD thread.
 

Willylong98

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Nothing significant has happened. I'll update if anything does. Otherwise I'll just post when I'm gonna take the rest of it.

Are any Accutane people going to try GBol's protocol? @Lost @Flynn @Willylong98
Gbol is wrong on that, why tf wouldn’t it work on trt? Don’t listen to everything the guy says

He said it won't work at all or as well on TRT so that rules me out for the time being.
 

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BD I would like to try the protocol some time later since I just took RU, but it will be difficult for me since I have extremely erratic and deficient nutritional schedule nowadays. I will still try to start it
 

B_D_Acc

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I think I might try it as well at some point even though I am on TRT.

Taking histidine and cysteine had a really profound effect on my sleep and dreams. I went from not dreaming at all to having some of the most vivid dreams of my life and this is despite eating 120g+ of mostly animal protein a day the entire time I've been post-accutane. I'm going to take them separately now then not at all to see if it is either or both having the effect.

Given that and the fact that PFS people have had success with it he clearly understands the biochem far far better than anyone else and it's definitely worth a good shot. That's also why I'm willing to acknowledge his opinion that TRT will make it less effective.
 

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Do the dreams come even after you stop histidine cysteine or they come only when youre taking it?
 

B_D_Acc

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I've been pretty consistent with taking it so I don't know yet. I'll let you know in a couple of weeks.
 
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Flynn

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If you end up taking RU again, it may be worth upping the dose. It's possible 50mg isn't strong enough.