Anyone here actually got better from RU?
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BeLikeWater
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RU was the onr big thing! After people really tried it all went meehh, changing protocols mode on!
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RU + Progesterone Cycle
Followed with progesterone I think it can be 1000x more effective. I didn't get much out of RU but the prog cycles following it have done the trick. I hope it sticks, but to really tell you what I've experiencing these last 4 days has been pretty incredible.
My prostate is just alive, woken up, uncomfortably high libido.
I'll be doing a write up on what I did and how I've gotten to this point soon.
Followed with progesterone I think it can be 1000x more effective. I didn't get much out of RU but the prog cycles following it have done the trick. I hope it sticks, but to really tell you what I've experiencing these last 4 days has been pretty incredible.
My prostate is just alive, woken up, uncomfortably high libido.
I'll be doing a write up on what I did and how I've gotten to this point soon.
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It will work fine most likely. *At low doses. It's the one things besides some PDE2 that I think will propel me to higher levels, that and ARL (not all at the same time), but without my long water fast, I don't know if it would be as strong. I think it can really help mental symptoms. It's the one thing I really wanted by a couple weeks ago.
If it was easily accessible, I'd have cycled it already. If it worked, twice already.
If you look at receptor sensitivity, affects on progesterone and cortisol levels, and consider downstream hormonal affects --- it makes sense.
This doesn't mean it is the biggest single factor for anyone, but it could be. I saw glimpses of my normal behavior and personality on ella, and more later, with none of those, and I think I would on and after ru as well.
If it was easily accessible, I'd have cycled it already. If it worked, twice already.
If you look at receptor sensitivity, affects on progesterone and cortisol levels, and consider downstream hormonal affects --- it makes sense.
This doesn't mean it is the biggest single factor for anyone, but it could be. I saw glimpses of my normal behavior and personality on ella, and more later, with none of those, and I think I would on and after ru as well.
BeLikeWater
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Did you had before small prostate symptoms like litte force when peeing or ejaculate that had been reversed?
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"It will" "I think" The true reality is that everyone specially goldduev was expecting RU to be able to reverse PFS, when people was actually trying it, all the hipothesis moved tomanother realm and no more was talled about RU. Actually Minoxidil is another deug that have some crazy issues and is not a progestin, I can dont about Saw Palmetto. The only real evidence was found by Dr. Melcangi that show that 5ar neurotransmisors and hormones are greatly decreased on PFS patients. Thats real, all these hypothesis that we are working here and not backed up by real test done in a large number enough of patients. The most near to a real statenof the body test that we are doing here is a more than suspicious hair test analisys...
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You know what I could list scientific ways it would most likely help,
but you're not worth it @BeLikeWater and I have money to make, people to deal with, so won't waste my time.
I have or have had like 4 "unsolvable" medical issues, and more like 6 if you include Asthma and some other thing, and more if I actually care to try and remember... I don't wait on researchers and beg them to "please save my life", I save my own. I was totally screwed (I won't say how bad) 10-14 or so weeks ago, I'm way better now, but I have other issues too while you whine like a little girl @BeLikeWater. Don't quote me unless it's a reminder in real life, on your wall not to quote me (and it says not to fuck with me).
I personally don't agree with all methods espoused on this site, however it's the best site there is for these post-drug disorders, and I've improved a lot thanks to help from here. And also logging things, helped me actually start living again eventually. If I tried 5-6 different experimental protocols, like 4 were helpful. I could have used them earlier, but I am getting there. So there's no need to tell everyone they can't do something. It's also a real bitch move to try and bring others here down, when they're trying to improve their health. Belikewater: Also, fuck you. What the fuck have you done with your life except be a little troll?
Don't talk about what I think or say, Belikewater, I think like 20x faster than a normal person, on a bad day (PFS), normally... way above that and my haters.
It's incomprehensible to them.
@Admiral Ella did help me... did it entirely cure me? No. Ru will also help significantly most of us, as long as we do other things as well. The fast will help you a lot I am certain, keep on pushing man.
***Doing several of the fasting, ella, ru, randro (and or 4andro if estrogen levels rqr it), and spacing things out will increase baseline over time***.
but you're not worth it @BeLikeWater and I have money to make, people to deal with, so won't waste my time.
I have or have had like 4 "unsolvable" medical issues, and more like 6 if you include Asthma and some other thing, and more if I actually care to try and remember... I don't wait on researchers and beg them to "please save my life", I save my own. I was totally screwed (I won't say how bad) 10-14 or so weeks ago, I'm way better now, but I have other issues too while you whine like a little girl @BeLikeWater. Don't quote me unless it's a reminder in real life, on your wall not to quote me (and it says not to fuck with me).
I personally don't agree with all methods espoused on this site, however it's the best site there is for these post-drug disorders, and I've improved a lot thanks to help from here. And also logging things, helped me actually start living again eventually. If I tried 5-6 different experimental protocols, like 4 were helpful. I could have used them earlier, but I am getting there. So there's no need to tell everyone they can't do something. It's also a real bitch move to try and bring others here down, when they're trying to improve their health. Belikewater: Also, fuck you. What the fuck have you done with your life except be a little troll?
Don't talk about what I think or say, Belikewater, I think like 20x faster than a normal person, on a bad day (PFS), normally... way above that and my haters.
It's incomprehensible to them.
@Admiral Ella did help me... did it entirely cure me? No. Ru will also help significantly most of us, as long as we do other things as well. The fast will help you a lot I am certain, keep on pushing man.
***Doing several of the fasting, ella, ru, randro (and or 4andro if estrogen levels rqr it), and spacing things out will increase baseline over time***.
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I know you are a strong supporter of solve PFS forum and wanted to charge people for your own personal PFS service, but everything you talked about in your post has been discussed already multiple times especially the minoxidil quote. Please use the search function.
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Sorghum is the answer!
Haven't you been cured like eight times already? Take your skepticism of the methods here elsewhere. I personally recovered a different path but I couldn't be more proud of these gentlemen for trailblazing a new path to help themselves and others.
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@Admiral i have now taken ru 6 different times and I feel it really helps. At higher doses it really helps with anxiety, digestion, personality, and penis sensativity. It helps less with other sexual sides. At low dose it works like ella.
RU increases your baseline each time after taking it but seems to not be as strong each time after taking It.
RU increases your baseline each time after taking it but seems to not be as strong each time after taking It.
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I believe RU is definitely beneficial. I don't think taking it once, with nothing else will cure you. I think there is a protocol somewhere here that we can refine to help all of us. A lot of what has been said and tested seems to help at least to some extent, but it's my belief that the hormone pathway has the best possibility for achieving a cure. Has anyone here had a bad experience with RU/Ella?? I think it has helped several at least get to a higher baseline. I agree with Goose and [B]bruschi11[/B] that RU and progesterone cycle offers good potential. If we had more guys experimenting with it, then we'd know for sure. The three of us did well. I am still at about 70-80%, about a 50% increase from my baseline after six weeks. I've been off everything for a week and I was planning to restart RU and then progesterone but I'm having second thoughts as I am doing pretty good right now. Should I wait to see if I continue to improve??? Or should I repeat the cycle until 100% better.
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So if I get my ru486, and I'm impatient, I should definitely not run ru+prog while on Randro/4andro or on PCT from that?
And same goes with ella+prog. For sure wait? I have a PDE5i rx now, and I think everything would move up to a better baseline after the glucocorticoid receptor antagonist. What if I quit R-A/4-A for one week and ran ru, then got back on R-A/4-A... is this too risky? I probably won't do this.
Maybe I should cut R-andro/4-andro short at only 4 weeks, but I'd like to commit to it. 200-300mg total rest days, 400-600mg workout days (600 is pushing it).
I also ordered more... hoping only 2-2.5 cycles are needed. Maybe more next year or when I get more cash, but I prioritize ru - even tho it keeps getting seized.
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- I got ru and more in transit. And I will run ru solo soon.
And same goes with ella+prog. For sure wait? I have a PDE5i rx now, and I think everything would move up to a better baseline after the glucocorticoid receptor antagonist. What if I quit R-A/4-A for one week and ran ru, then got back on R-A/4-A... is this too risky? I probably won't do this.
Maybe I should cut R-andro/4-andro short at only 4 weeks, but I'd like to commit to it. 200-300mg total rest days, 400-600mg workout days (600 is pushing it).
I also ordered more... hoping only 2-2.5 cycles are needed. Maybe more next year or when I get more cash, but I prioritize ru - even tho it keeps getting seized.
Update:
- I got ru and more in transit. And I will run ru solo soon.
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Took first Ru 25mg last night (planning 3 day course) and had strong morning wood but started like at 2am and wouldn’t go away all night. So much better response than last course. Might be that more sensitive to ru since I did progesterone between courses. Definitely a big improvement. I also took 1/2 tab of caber and 2 L dopa tabs to keep on top of prolactin. GOOD results so far. As I keep saying, I think more guys should be trying this protocol. I don’t see the downside if you look at the big picture, IMO.
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Do the RU or progesterone benefits stick though? No side effects from the progesterone (hair loss, tiredness)?
You use Muca Pruriens for the dopamine?
Sorry for the questions. I'm still torn whether I should use prog with my first RU cycle two weeks from now.
You use Muca Pruriens for the dopamine?
Sorry for the questions. I'm still torn whether I should use prog with my first RU cycle two weeks from now.
Good questions... I started with RU the 6 weeks ago, three days at 10mg. I didn't feel much except felt more calm and better mood but got headache on third day (prob prolactin) no other improvements then 6 days later started topical progesterone and did that for 10 days and got a very good benefit and I'd say about 85-90% normal. Definitely a significant improvement and then stopped for four days and then back on progesterone. Benefits dropped off slightly at the end but much better base line. I did noticed more DHT scalp itch and some hair loss but nothing dramatic. No real fatigue but I dose progesterone in evening. And yes, using Muca Pruriens for dopamine. IMO, I think using RU and then progesterone cycle seems like a good plan. It's Light's and others but then I think the RU helps with the reset (although I could be off base.) I have benefited significantly and so has bruschi11.