Liver and Bile Support (TUDCA)

[TubZy]

In the past, everyone always asks about liver support and the most common things that come up are NAC and milk thistle. Personally, they never did anything for me. So this goes back years but anything liver toxic or if I had elevated enzymes, the only thing that got it under control was TUDCA and I actually got blood tests as well to prove it so I'm convinced.

This was a while back when I was using oral prohormones, steroids, drinking, OTC medicine, drugs, fatty liver etc. or if you need to get things under control to you figure out what the real underlying issue of why your liver is poorly functioning this could help.

So anyone that is struggling with liver issues, I strongly suggest TUDCA over any of the mainstream stuff pushed. If you go to any bodybuilding type forum, their immediate reply for liver support is NAC and milk thistle, which I think is really inferior and lack strong evidence.

So if you haven't heard of it:

TUDCA (it's UDCA with taurine molecule attached)

Tauroursodeoxycholic acid - Wikipedia

 

[Stud]

how much tudca do you think i need on half a pill proviron? Also should i take liver support with r-andro because i'm thinking to try one of these

 

[Yura]

I would love to try TUDCA, but I can't even buy on Amazon. It is illegal here or what..

 

[TubZy]

how much tudca do you think i need on half a pill proviron? Also should i take liver support with r-andro because i'm thinking to try one of these

R Andro you are fine with no liver support, it is super mild

Proviron isn't super toxic but I would use at least 250-500mg of tudca with it just to be safe

 

[Stud]

aight thanks mate and any weird reactions from other males using androsterone? because it should have intense pheromone effects in big doses. lastly wich one do you prefer for mental efffects? Thx in advance

 

[TubZy]

aight thanks mate and any weird reactions from other males using androsterone? because it should have intense pheromone effects in big doses. lastly wich one do you prefer for mental efffects? Thx in advance

Well if you are treating it for PFS purposes there could a be a ton of weird reactions, but the pheromone effect could defintely occur.

I would choose androsterone over proviron easily. Proviron is also synthetic as androsterone is actually found naturally in the body.

 

[mattyb]

@Nina

Maybe you should try out TUDCA (or even milk thistle + NAC) to help your liver clear better. Might help with your issues with fat digestion.

 

[Stud]

Well if you are treating it for PFS purposes there could a be a ton of weird reactions, but the pheromone effect could defintely occur.

what reactions did you got then and did you care? because when i was on proviron it would also happen sometimes but i couldn't care less but when i was trying pheromones i din't like the constant hostillity.

 

[DrivenToRecover]

Thanks a ton for making this post Tubzy. I hadn't heard about this stuff, but after researching it...It definitely could help out my liver issues

 

[TubZy]

Thanks a ton for making this post Tubzy. I hadn't heard about this stuff, but after researching it...It definitely could help out my liver issues

No problem dude, it is definitely worth a shot especially over the standard milk thistle and NAC protocols...or you could try liver flushes with malic acid too

 

[jacknap]

No problem dude, it is definitely worth a shot especially over the standard milk thistle and NAC protocols...or you could try liver flushes with malic acid too

milk thistle is antiandrogen be careful. there's a guy on ph who crashed from it. I used it when I first crashed for a bit. I wanted ot use artichoke extract but the version i got also contained milk thistle. might have caused a downswing or did nothing to me tho

 

[TubZy]

milk thistle is antiandrogen be careful. there's a guy on ph who crashed from it. I used it when I first crashed for a bit. I wanted ot use artichoke extract but the version i got also contained milk thistle. might have caused a downswing or did nothing to me tho

yep, not really a fan of milk thistle for any matter TBH

 

[Stud]

damn this tudca stuff is really strong, belly getting hollower day by day eyes whiter day by day en my skin looks beautiful (nohomo). certainly would recommend but why do my legs look so hairy on it? @TubZy any idea if it is androgenic?

 

[M_Mitchell08]

damn this tudca stuff is really strong, belly getting hollower day by day eyes whiter day by day en my skin looks beautiful (nohomo). certainly would recommend but why do my legs look so hairy on it? @TubZy any idea if it is androgenic?

What brand are you using??

 

[wuf]

damn this tudca stuff is really strong, belly getting hollower day by day eyes whiter day by day en my skin looks beautiful (nohomo). certainly would recommend but why do my legs look so hairy on it? @TubZy any idea if it is androgenic?

Any impact on libido?

 

[Yura]

I would like to know why is TUDCA made basically only by some small "underground" companies that make some bodybuilding stuff etc.. But you can't find TUDCA from some big, reputable supplement company like Solgar, Jarrow, NOW foods etc.??

 

[Stud]

What brand are you using??

braum

 

[Stud]

Any impact on libido?

yep 100% not placebo also why i thought about it being androgenic

 

[wuf]

yep 100% not placebo also why i thought about it being androgenic

I have bile acid in my hand, is it the same stuff?

 

[Stud]

Yes i think so but i don't know about the potency difference though.