RWAC's PFS log (on the TEI train)

[HerrFisch]

I am confident that I am fixed 100% soon.

Happy for you! & Happy birthday dude!

 

[barbaar]

Happy bday @RebelWithACause !!

 

[snowball]

Great post! Have you seen an improvement with facial bloating from Ella as well?

Birthday post:

4. EllaOne (5mg ED for 5 days)

Ella was the thing that I think got me out of PFS state (high anxiety + stress). I had a lot of energy while on it. Although I do think it increases estrogen while taking it. I remember being emotional while on it and one week after. Like listening to a shitty pop song on the radio and getting teary eyed.

I got the flu at day 5 of Ella and it lasted for 9 days. After that I gradually got better. I was not immediately better after taking Ella. But I felt something change from that moment.


I will let you know when I am at that point.

 

[RebelWithACause]

Great post! Have you seen an improvement with facial bloating from Ella as well?

Yes bloating was gone after Ella.

 

[RebelWithACause]

I am 100% recovered I would say. If something changes I will let you guys know.

You can add me to the list of recoveries. Thank you to all of you. If you need support or have questions PM me. I come here on the forums once a week so if I do not reply fast that is why.

I am rooting for you guys. I was in a bad spot OK. But I recovered. Others have recovered too. So it is not "forever PFS". Focus on recovery and keep going. Try to not overthink too much. I just tried a bunch of stuff. Looking back it was a crazy approach but for me it worked.

Good luck guys.

 

[Helen]

I am 100% recovered I would say. If something changes I will let you guys know.

You can add me to the list of recoveries. Thank you to all of you. If you need support or have questions PM me. I come here on the forums once a week so if I do not reply fast that is why.

I am rooting for you guys. I was in a bad spot OK. But I recovered. Others have recovered too. So it is not "forever PFS". Focus on recovery and keep going. Try to not overthink too much. I just tried a bunch of stuff. Looking back it was a crazy approach but for me it worked.

Good luck guys.

Congrats.

 

[bruschi11]

Reading this an hour ago motivated me to go jump in some ice cold ocean water with my dog.

Congrats man and thanks for being an inspiration to a ton of people here!

 

[Niles]

I am 100% recovered I would say. If something changes I will let you guys know.

You can add me to the list of recoveries. Thank you to all of you. If you need support or have questions PM me. I come here on the forums once a week so if I do not reply fast that is why.

I am rooting for you guys. I was in a bad spot OK. But I recovered. Others have recovered too. So it is not "forever PFS". Focus on recovery and keep going. Try to not overthink too much. I just tried a bunch of stuff. Looking back it was a crazy approach but for me it worked.

Good luck guys.

Congrats man! Enjoy the other side. I hope you look back fondly on this character building experience lol

 

[Jaxx]

I am 100% recovered I would say. If something changes I will let you guys know.

You can add me to the list of recoveries. Thank you to all of you. If you need support or have questions PM me. I come here on the forums once a week so if I do not reply fast that is why.

I am rooting for you guys. I was in a bad spot OK. But I recovered. Others have recovered too. So it is not "forever PFS". Focus on recovery and keep going. Try to not overthink too much. I just tried a bunch of stuff. Looking back it was a crazy approach but for me it worked.

Good luck guys.

Very good to hear! Did you do something based on the ARL test? (And did you post it here?)

 

[jacknap]

I am 100% recovered I would say. If something changes I will let you guys know.

You can add me to the list of recoveries. Thank you to all of you. If you need support or have questions PM me. I come here on the forums once a week so if I do not reply fast that is why.

I am rooting for you guys. I was in a bad spot OK. But I recovered. Others have recovered too. So it is not "forever PFS". Focus on recovery and keep going. Try to not overthink too much. I just tried a bunch of stuff. Looking back it was a crazy approach but for me it worked.

Good luck guys.

how long on the proper program did it take for u to recover?

 

[MNK99]

Congrats again, man @RebelWithACause ! That's a damn speedy recovery. Good for you bro.
Experimenting is the way out.

 

[RebelWithACause]

how long on the proper program did it take for u to recover?

My approach was a shotgun approach. I tried something else every week. If something did not change me for the positive I throw it out. Ella made the biggest impact.

But I also think the betaine HCl + vitamin B helped for some reason. Try it out.

Working out and cold showers helped to strengthen the mind and keep going. That was also important.

 

[snowball]

"- People treat me better. Want to socialize with me"- Thats a very interesting observation. When i had short recoveries, I noticed that too.

 

[barbaar]

Hey guys, doing good. Giving you a life update for those who are interested. Life after PFS.

I fucked an 18-year old cutie yesterday. First time I had sex after dealing with PFS. I did not have sex for 1,5 year or so. Erections were rock hard. Sex was good and enjoyable. I raw dogged this girl twice. Hopefully I did not get her pregnant. It was in the heat of the moment.

Overall I notice women are more into me. I did not notice this when I was on propecia and PFS. I think DHT or the other 5AR hormones are attractive to women. Men are also more respectful towards me. Some of them seem even a bit scared. On propecia and in PFS people shit on me constantly. Disrespecting me. I have said this before but it is very noticeable.

I am more of an asshole with women. On Propecia I think I had constant higher estrogen. I would get a lot of feelings for a woman. Or fantasize about past lovers. Now I do not have that as much. I do not care as much. The roles have reversed. Women are more attracted to me now than I am to them. It is hard to explain. It is a change in dynamic.

In general I feel even better than just after recovery. I am supplementing with zinc (15-30mg) and 5mg creatine everyday. I am not sure why but it helps a lot with my energy levels, recovery and libido. When I first used zinc in PFS state it would leave me without any libido (ZERO). Now it is the opposite - high libido with short refractory period. I am going to make sure to take some copper once in a while.

I am still not drinking caffeine except sometimes when I go out to get a little bump in energy. I use caffeine as a drug not as food.

Hairloss is OK. I shed more than on propecia but it's not crazy. At this point I do not care about my hair anymore. But it is still looking good.

I am eating fairly clean but I have eaten some crappy foods with gluten and sugar. It does not seem to affect me negatively.

I am really strong in the gym. Explosive and aggressive. Very nice feeling. Hitting PR's. Focussing on getting strong again and stronger than before.

If you are feeling like shit right now. Just do this for me: keep going. I have said this before and I will say it again. It seems like there is no light at the end of the tunnel sometimes. Sometimes you feel very hopeless. Accept the feeling but know that you will get better. It is not bullshit. It is true.

Good luck everybody.

Good to hear you are still doing well man. Enjoy feeling alpha as fuck! And thanks for that last bit you wrote, I really needed to hear that.

 

[RebelWithACause]

Good to hear you are still doing well man. Enjoy feeling alpha as fuck! And thanks for that last bit you wrote, I really needed to hear that.

If you need help with something let me know in PM. I visit the forums from time to time. Good luck man.

 

[Jaxx]

Hey guys, doing good. Giving you a life update for those who are interested. Life after PFS.

I fucked an 18-year old cutie yesterday. First time I had sex after dealing with PFS. I did not have sex for 1,5 year or so. Erections were rock hard. Sex was good and enjoyable. I raw dogged this girl twice. Hopefully I did not get her pregnant. It was in the heat of the moment.

Guess you've used up all your Ella?

 

[IHateFin]

Bro this is awesome!! Congrats my dude! I hope to be on the other side soon!!

 

[bd part 2]

Hey guys, doing good. Giving you a life update for those who are interested. Life after PFS.

I fucked an 18-year old cutie yesterday. First time I had sex after dealing with PFS. I did not have sex for 1,5 year or so. Erections were rock hard. Sex was good and enjoyable. I raw dogged this girl twice. Hopefully I did not get her pregnant. It was in the heat of the moment.

Overall I notice women are more into me. I did not notice this when I was on propecia and PFS. I think DHT or the other 5AR hormones are attractive to women. Men are also more respectful towards me. Some of them seem even a bit scared. On propecia and in PFS people shit on me constantly. Disrespecting me. I have said this before but it is very noticeable.

I am more of an asshole with women. On Propecia I think I had constant higher estrogen. I would get a lot of feelings for a woman. Or fantasize about past lovers. Now I do not have that as much. I do not care as much. The roles have reversed. Women are more attracted to me now than I am to them. It is hard to explain. It is a change in dynamic.

In general I feel even better than just after recovery. I am supplementing with zinc (15-30mg) and 5mg creatine everyday. I am not sure why but it helps a lot with my energy levels, recovery and libido. When I first used zinc in PFS state it would leave me without any libido (ZERO). Now it is the opposite - high libido with short refractory period. I am going to make sure to take some copper once in a while. Only negative about zinc supplement is my balls get really big and a lot of sperm build up. Especially with NoFap.

I am still not drinking caffeine except sometimes when I go out to get a little bump in energy. I use caffeine as a drug not as food.

Hairloss is OK. I shed more than on propecia but it's not crazy. At this point I do not care about my hair anymore. But it is still looking good.

I am eating fairly clean but I have eaten some crappy foods with gluten and sugar. It does not seem to affect me negatively.

I am really strong in the gym. Explosive and aggressive. Very nice feeling. Hitting PR's. Focussing on getting strong again and stronger than before.

If you are feeling like shit right now. Just do this for me: keep going. I have said this before and I will say it again. It seems like there is no light at the end of the tunnel sometimes. Sometimes you feel very hopeless. Accept the feeling but know that you will get better. It is not bullshit. It is true.

Good luck everybody.

How long did you have pfs before starting this thread?

 

[RebelWithACause]

How long did you have pfs before starting this thread?

About a year.

Tip for everybody dealing with this shit, please read this:

Visualise yourself being better.

Do affirmations.

"I...*your name here* will get my hormones back to normal" or "I...*your name here* will have good hormones again". It does not have to be perfect in the way you describe it. Repeat this every time you have nothing to do for yourself in your head or say it to yourself. You can also write this down 10 times a day on a piece of paper. You need to do this for a while before it becomes ingrained in your brain.

Before you go to sleep pray to God. I do: "Thank you God for the food you provided. I want to pray to all of those I love to have a good life." Very simple. I focus on others because this gets me out of my head of my current situations. When you are in a bad spot you often think: "Me, me, me, me, me!" At least I do. Praying for other people gets me out of my head.

Hear me out.

You can call this woo woo but it worked for me. I started getting better in short amount of time when I started doing this. I still use this. I am going to use this again from recovery of anabolic steroids and also in the future for my future endeavours. You can use this for all your problems in life. I hope you will give this a chance.

Why does this work? Well it focusses your mind on the solutions to get to the solution/the end goal/your visualization. This is the proposal behind it:

Humans only see a small percentage of reality. We cannot focus on everything. You have to train your mind to become focussed on the solutions around it. When you drown in negativity you will be blind to everything. People can say 1000 times to you what you need to do but you won't see it. The solution can be RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF YOU but you don't see it because you are literally blind to it. You will not see the answers because your brain is not focussed on it.

You also have to train the mind to become indestructible in times of stress and chaos. You need to become unstoppable. Don't eat junk food, do cold showers and try to sleep early. Cut out social media for a while. Become a monk. Focus on training the mind. There is gonna be more times in your life you will feel bad. Bad shit happens to people.

 

[EsQimo]

About a year.

Tip for everybody dealing with this shit, please read this:

Visualise yourself being better.

Do affirmations.

"I...*your name here* will get my hormones back to normal" or "I...*your name here* will have good hormones again". It does not have to be perfect in the way you describe it. Repeat this every time you have nothing to do for yourself in your head or say it to yourself. You can also write this down 10 times a day on a piece of paper. You need to do this for a while before it becomes ingrained in your brain.

Before you go to sleep pray to God. I do: "Thank you God for the food you provided. I want to pray to all of those I love to have a good life." Very simple. I focus on others because this gets me out of my head of my current situations. When you are in a bad spot you often think: "Me, me, me, me, me!" At least I do. Praying for other people gets me out of my head.

Hear me out.

You can call this woo woo but it worked for me. I started getting better in short amount of time when I started doing this. I still use this. I am going to use this again from recovery of anabolic steroids and also in the future for my future endeavours. You can use this for all your problems in life. I hope you will give this a chance.

Why does this work? Well it focusses your mind on the solutions to get to the solution/the end goal/your visualization. This is the proposal behind it:

Humans only see a small percentage of reality. We cannot focus on everything. You have to train your mind to become focussed on the solutions around it. When you drown in negativity you will be blind to everything. People can say 1000 times to you what you need to do but you won't see it. The solution can be RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF YOU but you don't see it because you are literally blind to it. You will not see the answers because your brain is not focussed on it.

You also have to train the mind to become indestructible in times of stress and chaos. You need to become unstoppable. Don't eat junk food, do cold showers and try to sleep early. Cut out social media for a while. Become a monk. Focus on training the mind. There is gonna be more times in your life you will feel bad. Bad shit happens to people.

RWAC have you ever tested for 3adiolG?
Forget gods prayers and mindset...
Forget also hormonal imbalances.

The REAL PFS its a cell mechanics problem.

Have you ever test this metabolite?
Its the only real indication for PFS.
Only if your body CANT use DHT properly you can say that you have PFS.

Or else you have just an imbalance that can be fixed easily.

My 3adiolG is 5.8 which is 4 times lower than normal for my age.
Thats not a hormonal imbalance according to European pioneers in Endocrinology.

Its a kind of induced androgen resistance.