Gut microbiome testing

[Aleksandr]

@mattyb @gbolduev @TubZy

What are your opinions on gut microbiome testing? Worth doing? Does it have to be a stool test? Who do you recommend to test with?

 

[Ivy]

There is a very cheap test (more or less 30 Euros in my country) that should give you some insight: the Candida Albicans stool test. I do believe it is reliable. I've had it numerous times to keep things in check, after a very expensive Gut Dysbyosis stool test.

If you're still eating as described in your Hair test results 2 post, the only item I'd be weary of in your diet is bread. On a personal note, I'm not currently eating any dairy but, despite their yin nature, sheep/goat kefir and yogurt I think do me more good than harm.

 

[tanedout]

@mattyb @gbolduev @TubZy

What are your opinions on gut microbiome testing? Worth doing? Does it have to be a stool test? Who do you recommend to test with?

I'd say it's well worth doing. I did one from Genova Diagnostics, and a number of PFS guys have also had the same test done;

Clinician Services | Genova Diagnositcs

Interestingly I believe everyone with PAS and PFS had no growth of the lactobacillus species of beneficial bacteria. In addition I also have no growth of the beneficial e-coli strain.

You also get analysis of markers for inflammation. I would say it's worth adding on the bile acids analysis - unfortunately I forgot this when I ordered.

 

[wuf]

have no growth of the beneficial e-coli

This exactly what CHI had, same issue and he resolved PFS by diet and excercises... and little supplements

 

[tanedout]

This exactly what CHI had, same issue and he resolved PFS by diet and excercises... and little supplements

I just found a log on my PC where I collected up the results of everyone who has done this testing, and actually Chi is the odd one out - he had growth of lactobacillus, whereas everyone else had no growth of this species (myself included). Not sure if that could be a factor as to why he was able to recover, but it seems his gut micro biome was likely different to most others with PFS & PAS

Chi

Lactobacillis 4+
E-coli NG
Bifidobacterium 4+

 

[bruschi11]

This exactly what CHI had, same issue and he resolved PFS by diet and excercises... and little supplements

He had his set supplements like wormwood/clove, probiotics, and several others. I think he had like 5 supps he was religious with and if he removed he had trouble.

 

[wuf]

I just found a log on my PC where I collected up the results of everyone who has done this testing, and actually Chi is the odd one out - he had growth of lactobacillus, whereas everyone else had no growth of this species (myself included). Not sure if that could be a factor as to why he was able to recover, but it seems his gut micro biome was likely different to most others with PFS & PAS

Chi

Lactobacillis 4+
E-coli NG
Bifidobacterium 4+

What does it mean NG for e-coli?

 

[tanedout]

What does it mean NG for e-coli?

Means 'no growth'

 

[wuf]

Means 'no growth'

I do not think you are right.
I talked with CHI and he sent and told me as well that his e-coli growth was high... not sure where you took those info from... I am sure his e-coli was high.