Cigarettes for hair? @mattyb

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mattyb always talks about how low capillary density could be a problem in MPB

well, look at this:
Figure 2: 2 Stimulation of angiogenesis by FGF2, VEGF, and nicotine,...

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Aleksandr

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Interesting. Its funny a lot of smokers seem to have good hair in my experience
 
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I would say stay away from cigarettes and use some other form of nicotine. Vaping seems much much healthier. I think that if you replace like 3 cigarettes with same amount of time vaping. There would be zero health concerns. But I think it is not healthy when some people are able to use like 10ml of eliquid a day. That's crazy..(But still much safer than smoking like 10 cigarettes a day..)
 
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Guys look online at people who chew nicotine gum and who vape. They all have crazy hairloss for some reason.




"Nicotine does cause hair loss. I've experimented on my self. My hair became thinner on chewing tobacco, and then much more noticeably thinner chewing high potency nicotine gum. I stopped the gum and my hair didn't come back, so I used Minoxidil with success after a couple of months. I started nicotine again by vaping (e-cigarettes) and began losing hair again (about two years after the Minoxidil experience). I began the Minoxidil treatments again, but did not see results until I discontinued vaping/e-cigarettes. I looked on the FDA website at consumer complaints and there are a lot of people who have reported balding after starting nicotine gum."

Hair Loss Related
Long-term Nicorette gum users losing hair and teeth
https://www.reddit.com/r/electronic_cigarette/comments/3nj05t
https://www.quora.com/My-hair-thinned-because-of-Nicorette-lozenge-Will-it-regrow

Severe hair loss. Habit of chewing tons of nicorette gums. Suggest
 
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Smoking causes vasoconstriction. That's the opposite of "good" when it comes to hair growth. Smoking is much more often associated with hair loss as opposed to hair growth.

It's likely the vasoconstriction puts hormetic pressure on the vascular system to grow, so potentially, in very very small doses nicotine could be helpful. For the quantities that most smokers consume though, likely very harmful to hair (and health).
 
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mattyb said:
Smoking causes vasoconstriction. That's the opposite of "good" when it comes to hair growth. Smoking is much more often associated with hair loss as opposed to hair growth.

It's likely the vasoconstriction puts hormetic pressure on the vascular system to grow, so potentially, in very very small doses nicotine could be helpful. For the quantities that most smokers consume though, likely very harmful to hair (and health).
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1 cig per week theory
 
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gbolduev said:
Guys look online at people who chew nicotine gum and who vape. They all have crazy hairloss for some reason.




"Nicotine does cause hair loss. I've experimented on my self. My hair became thinner on chewing tobacco, and then much more noticeably thinner chewing high potency nicotine gum. I stopped the gum and my hair didn't come back, so I used Minoxidil with success after a couple of months. I started nicotine again by vaping (e-cigarettes) and began losing hair again (about two years after the Minoxidil experience). I began the Minoxidil treatments again, but did not see results until I discontinued vaping/e-cigarettes. I looked on the FDA website at consumer complaints and there are a lot of people who have reported balding after starting nicotine gum."

Hair Loss Related
Long-term Nicorette gum users losing hair and teeth
https://www.reddit.com/r/electronic_cigarette/comments/3nj05t
https://www.quora.com/My-hair-thinned-because-of-Nicorette-lozenge-Will-it-regrow

Severe hair loss. Habit of chewing tons of nicorette gums. Suggest
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theories = puts you in sympathetic nervous state so more luxury health concerns like hair/teeth/nails etc go by the way side.

I got alopetia areata when I was abusing coffee like 600+ mg of caffeine delay along with high stress lifestyle (no mpb but still hair loss). finally grew back after cutting caffeine for 3 months but those were miserable my energy was so low.
 
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Homeless drinkers and smokers and addicts seldom go bald. AND ALSO never look fat usually. Rarely get stuck with mortgages neither.

I used to drink like 80 shots a week (but I was a "Kid"), no hair loss. Actually insanely amazing hair... but then stimulants and meds.
ALTHO I did briefly try seroquel and effexor and stuff, no hair loss then, but I was like 19-21, and some of those were 1-14 days max.




ALC and SMOKING = obv bad.
 
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tfcjesse

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Travis, who is pro-tobacco BTW, explained that cigarettes could indirectly effect hair. He smokes ~12 a day IIRC.

What a smoker needs most is γ-tocopherol, a subvariety of vitamin E which has a particular ability to complex with nitrogen dioxide. This nitrogen species is found in cigarette smoke (~500·ppm), and smokers have been found to have lower (~40%) concentrations that rise to normal within days of cessation. Decreased γ-tocopherol has also been correlated with environmental NO₂ exposure, and nitrated metabolites of such have been found in the urine. There is very little doubt that γ-tocopherol is unique in its ability of scavenge reactive nitrogen species.

These nitrates catalyze cyclooxgenase, which is ultimately responsible for forming all prostaglandins including prostaglandin D₂. But 'catalyze' is actually a bit of an understatement, as the most rigorous science actually indicates that peroxynitrite is actually a substrate for this enzyme; that is, one-half of the peroxynitrite molecule actually becomes incorporated into the prostaglandin itself (being the characteristic endoperoxide ring). Reactive nitrogen species will reliably increase prostaglandin formation, and nothing is correlated with hair loss more than is prostaglandin D₂.

Though, his main tenant for hair loss is avoiding ω−6 fatty acids.
 
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or food coloring or PG or VG. Propylene glycol, vegetable glycerine. I USED EM IN HI SCHOOL BEFORE THEY CAME TO NA

LOL nearly but in uni
IVE added self extracted CBD its good but costly. NEED HIGH QUALITY suppliers.

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FIrst sign of major hairloss I wanted to quit it and my psychiatrist (skilled one) says that it's that maybe, because of vasoconstriction, but that doesn't make sense, considering amps also do that strongly, especially NE stimulating ones such as ADDERALL (like 66% NE stimulation vs near 1 or 0 on dex). NOT quite 0 but way more from adderall than that. (Conversely Ritalin MPH and Wellbutrin are much more like cocaine, in that they are DRNI's). No sub for coke tho, I'm pretty sure. Wellbutrin might be good for me, but I know myself, have overcame TONS of crises (life is crisis mode with untreated ADHD, let alone manic depression)... --> AND Fasting, TEI, workouts, boom solved, case closed (for me), but that's after a year nearly of hard work. 285 days or so.

LOOK It's better than heroin or crystal meth [not even once]..

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YES... BUT it may be better to make your own eliquid, and FOR SOME, inhaling PG or VG is bad also.
For instance, many do better with VG. I have asthma and difficulty exhaling (exercise induced asthma, basically).
And PG is in inhalers (since childhood), so I do better on PG (less clouds, less volume, less to exhale).


@HerrFisch you could add PG + VG + DISTILLED WATER too. YOUR OWN MIX, basic dillution. Or buy flavored VG add PG add Distilled Water. Or v versa.
---> make sure whatever you vape is safe [check reddit and also electronic cigarette forum].

---> YOU CAN GET 100% PG OR 100% VG. PG --> I got from a COMPOUNDING PHARMACY (they're around in East and West Coast America and Canada, likely).
---> AMAZON too but more expensive, or stores like... Home something... CDN TIRE? COSTCO?? SOMETHING. SOME EURO EQUIVALENT OF THAT> SHOPPERs DRUG MART
- ---.> a place with cosmetics and soap and shaving stuff, razors, body wash, shampoo....clorox wipes, household cleaning items whatever?

I mean if you know a great store/ it should be fine. I've only gotten liquid in America, Canada, and London tho. It's obviously in Europe tho, I'm certain.

Also it's the same 18650 batteried MODS (same as remote controlled cars) now... (devices, e-cig), same tanks often (510 threading).--- with whatever liquid you want/ even marijuana with some physics (I wouldn't mess with that, I'm just saying it works). One sec.

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-3. Vaporesso Revenger MINI. (MINI REVENGER X some similar thing/ they roll out new products like every month... they're all good now. 8 yrs ago = most trash). EXPENSIVE --> WILL WORK. IF ITS not a shady dealer.
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@MNK99

thanks for all the input, but I dont think Im up to buying one ;) But if something changes, I know who to ask ^^

I just was wondering if vaping without nicotine is really only glycine + flavour. Which should be kind of safe.
And shouldnt be too much glycine uptake with vaping ... 10ml liquid so max 10g.
 
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Yes... safe enuff. safer than smoking by like 100000 times, unless precancerous, and then and only then nic might increase rate of proliferation of cancer cells.
I never half ass an answer.

EXCEPT heating temps and metals in coils and wicks and paper... and vaporization points... It's not so simple you see. ))
Also exploding chargers/batteries and cheap single cell mods of mini devices (not above), that ppl abusively made their own batteries to.
 
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