PINE POLLEN + VITEX (PFS)

[TubZy]

@TubZy, yes you are right. My bottles states to take 4 as serving size. That's 1600mg. I will up the dose. I usually do the minimum first on all herbs and drugs. I'm still seeing libido and erection quality results though. I'm going to have to up the dose of Vitex or progesterone as well too.

I took PP a while ago, increased my libido but I felt like I was on speed, anxiety was through the roof, never tried PP with vitex

 

[TubZy]

@tallglass13 i moved the pine pollen/vitex posts here

 

[jacknap]

there was someone on ph that was really into vitex but people were dismissing him

even worse I think they got rid of the recovery section. I made a youtube video giving people some direction just in case for what helped me

guys further along might be wise to do so as well because I'd imagine it's very hard to find this place now

 

[tonysoprano]

I'm going to try Vitex + Pine Pollen while I wait for the results of my hair test.

Any thoughts on dosage for either of them?

@Helen @TubZy

 

[Helen]

I'm going to try Vitex + Pine Pollen while I wait for the results of my hiar test.

Any thoughts on dosage for either of them?

@Helen @TubZy

No clue Tony. Ask tallglass. he is taking it.

@tallglass13 how are you doing on this man? is it worthy taking?

 

[tallglass13]

I like it. Ive been having
normal morning wood. I think I respond well to VItex. the pine pollen adds in the hormones, and Vitex either helps lower prolactin and gives me better wood. I'm taking a small does too. 800mg PP, and 600mg vitex.

 

[tallglass13]

My belief is that there is no reason to take large doses, at least not at once. the body only make 4-7mg of testosterone a day , so no reason to try and take a whole bunch of PP. I respond well to Vitex by itself. But I no longer take Vitex alone, taking Helen's advice a pair things up.

 

[Admiral]

I like it. Ive been having
normal morning wood. I think I respond well to VItex. the pine pollen adds in the hormones, and Vitex either helps lower prolactin and gives me better wood. I'm taking a small does too. 800mg PP, and 600mg vitex.

Nice!

Could you list your symptoms and improvements on a scale for us?

 

[tallglass13]

I will open up my own thread when I get my hair test. but I'm PFS, haven't used Fin in along time, maybe 8 years. But My goal are to be like Area , and be above and beyond the average man.

 

[tonysoprano]

Congrats tallglass, that is really encouraging news. How long did it take for you to feel the positive effect of pine pollen and vitex. Has your libido increased?

 

[Niles]

My belief is that there is no reason to take large doses, at least not at once. the body only make 4-7mg of testosterone a day , so no reason to try and take a whole bunch of PP. I respond well to Vitex by itself. But I no longer take Vitex alone, taking Helen's advice a pair things up.

So you were on vitex alone before adding in pine pollen? Can you notice the difference between pp + vtx vs. pp alone?

 

[tallglass13]

Great question, I'm not sure what I feel from the PP. the Vitex maybe the only thing giving results. I was not on VItex regularly before, I only experimented with it at certain times. To combat prolactin. I'm pairing the two, only based on Helen's advice to pair things up for safer results. Personally I think Bulbine increased my test better than PP. Bulbine, I can feel my testes get fuller after one or two doses. Bulbine has been studied to show an Acute effect, as well as effects of a cycle. I wonder if Bulbine + Vitex might be better for me.

 

[Niles]

Great question, I'm not sure what I feel from the PP. the Vitex maybe the only thing giving results. I was not on VItex regularly before, I only experimented with it at certain times. To combat prolactin. I'm pairing the two, only based on Helen's advice to pair things up for safer results. Personally I think Bulbine increased my test better than PP. Bulbine, I can feel my testes get fuller after one or two doses. Bulbine has been studied to show an Acute effect, as well as effects of a cycle. I wonder if Bulbine + Vitex might be better for me.

Bulbine Natalensis? Interesting, somehow this one's never been on my radar. Looking into it now, it seems it can have negative effects on liver and kidney, though.

 

[Niles]

re: vitex, I remember reading somewhere that its effects are highly dose-dependant, with 500mg doses having the opposite effect of 1g doses. @Helen have you read anything to that effect?

 

[Jaxx]

I will open up my own thread when I get my hair test. but I'm PFS, haven't used Fin in along time, maybe 8 years. But My goal are to be like Area , and be above and beyond the average man.

@Area-1255 See what you've done, people dont want to be cured anymore but become Viking

 

[Area-1255]

@Area-1255 See what you've done, people dont want to be cured anymore but become Viking

Super-Human Viking Power.

 

[tallglass13]

I'm off the Pine and vitex , FYI....Off about week. I had a date last week, and I dosed butea and Icarrin, and Androsterone 2mg, and ended up having a great erection for her. Also, all this week after my date. Ive been having night long erections up until I get up in the morning.
The Pine pollen stopped working, and ruined my libido in the end. I'm also using some of dr. lin's products. doprafibra. It has an array of herbs and aminos and all the b's.

 

[TubZy]

I'm off the Pine and vitex , FYI....Off about week. I had a date last week, and I dosed butea and Icarrin, and Androsterone 2mg, and ended up having a great erection for her. Also, all this week after my date. Ive been having night long erections up until I get up in the morning.
The Pine pollen stopped working, and ruined my libido in the end. I'm also using some of dr. lin's products. doprafibra. It has an array of herbs and aminos and all the b's.

Pine pollen messed me up too when I tried it in the past, more interested in the vitex did u try vitex alone?

 

[IHateFin]

Haha, right? Nobody wants to be the guinea pig? *cough* @IHateFin *cough*

Not this time, bro!! Haha your boy is trying to get balanced now LOL

 

[tonysoprano]

@TubZy and @tallglass13 would you both advise against using pine pollen? I have a date this week and I want to be able to perform but I don't want to crash myself.