FINASTERIDE SIGNIFICANTLY UPREGULATES ANDROGEN RECEPTOR in this study ( PROTOCOLS and discussions for PFS)

[dante]

Stop thinking SNPS it is the way nowhere. All SNPS can be changed. I saw it many times on 23 and me. boom and no more mutation LOL

Very interesting. Wilson says the same thing in his article http://drlwilson.com/ARTICLES/GENETIC TESTING.htm

 

[Helen]

@joekool is doing the deca Dick protocol. deca dick is when you take the nandrolone steroid known as Deca and basically get PFS from it... too much info to type about it so thats the high level jist of it lol

he is taking 100mg of test enanthate a week and cycles prog too..

im sure he can tell you more about it and point you to where he found this experiment with cures in deca dick

What are you talking about. I told Joe to go on test with progesterone. Since going only on test caused crazy anxiety in him.

in PFS you have low potassium, that is why taking test will kill it further and does not work.

JoeKool is doing testosterone with progesterone) that is not a deca dick protocol. that is the protocol which I explained here))

 

[IHateFin]

What are you talking about. I told Joe to go on test with progesterone. Since going only on test caused crazy anxiety in him.

right thats what i said lol
"he takes test enenthate 100mg a week and cycles prog..."

 

[supernature]

Very interesting. Wilson says the same thing in his article http://drlwilson.com/ARTICLES/GENETIC TESTING.htm

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[Helen]

Who is he? What is deca dick?
Injection okay, but how do you increase then testo slowly? By stopping injections and waiting for the body to produce again? Interesting. Any protocol out there or link?

You dont have to decrease Test levels LOL what are you talking about

 

[noprop]

right thats what i said lol
"he takes test enenthate 100mg a week and cycles prog..."

This is low testo injection AS you mentioned. There is another protocol with testo and proviron AS hcg AS well.
Some guys cured their sides on hcg and an reversible arom.inh. alone.
Getting interesting.

 

[Helen]

I think we need to decrease testo levels for a longer period. 4-7 months and then increase it slowly. The way around took the same time. Upsentisizing from dht starvation.
Does Prog reduce testo and dht levels?
Or soy? Soy could be interesting.

there are 2 cases here, with upregulated and downregulated zinc finger LOL

Everything is in the first post what people could do ))

 

[noprop]

You dont have to decrease Test levels LOL what are you talking about

Sorry mate, I cant follow you. What are YOU talking about?
Have you read the studies of downregulation of the AR? There is oneguy showing that only zero level to rising testo levels bring downregulation not supraphysiological levels.

 

[noprop]

I read that post. Unclear what case 1 or 2 is yet. It is a guess for me. Thats it.

 

[Helen]

I read that post. Unclear what case 1 or 2 is yet. It is a guess for me. Thats it.

If you have high test and DHT levels you are downregulated receptors, if you have low dht and test upregulated

 

[IHateFin]

This is low testo injection AS you mentioned. There is another protocol with testo and proviron AS hcg AS well.
Some guys cured their sides on hcg and an reversible arom.inh. alone.
Getting interesting.

interesting.. if you choose one of these place some of what you are finding along with your log

 

[Helen]

Sorry mate, I cant follow you. What are YOU talking about?
Have you read the studies of downregulation of the AR? There is oneguy showing that only zero level to rising testo levels bring downregulation not supraphysiological levels.

LOL you have no idea what you are talking about. From zero androgen to normal levels tests receptors will be always UPREGULATED

and it never worked for anyone with PFS to take test or proviron or to cycle both. Since this will cause hypokalemia

I restored myself back to 70% just in matter of 2 days. just taking 50000 potassium LOL

 

[IHateFin]

LOL you have no idea what you are talking about. From zero androgen to normal levels tests receptors will be always UPREGULATED

and it never worked for anyone with PFS to take test or proviron or to cycle both. Since this will cause hypokalemia

I restored myself back to 70% just in matter of 2 days. just taking 50000 potassium LOL

50000mg of potassium?!?!?! good lord man haha like per tay or total in 2 days?? still a lot tho lol

 

[Helen]

50000mg of potassium?!?!?! good lord man haha like per tay or total in 2 days?? still a lot tho lol

Total within 2 days

This is what Troy also did. He went on potassium , then went off and boom restored

Potassium gets rid of zinc from the cell. So it lowers zinc finger. plus it starts the axis

 

[noprop]

If you have high test and DHT levels you are downregulated receptors, if you have low dht and test upregulated

Ah, finally the answer I was looking for. Case two is exactely what I already said.
Cause just this makes sense. THX
joekool has upregulated Ar. By rising his levels a bit, not to the supraphysiological levels, he can downsentisize them. Estro will rise up - that is okay?

 

[Helen]

Ah, finally the answer I was looking for. Case two is exactely what I already said.
Cause just this makes sense. THX
joekool has upregulated Ar. By rising his levels a bit, not to the supraphysiological levels, he can downsentisize them. Estro will rise up - that is okay?

If he raised testosterone to supra levels he will downregulate them further. but he could not even do low test levels, since any test will cause further hypokalemia. And anxiety and shrinkage by converting dopamine into adrenaline ))

this is why I suggested for him test with progesterone to avoid dopamine to adrenaline conversion.

Will it stick? we dont know yet.


It is much faster to do the same with anavar. I would assume

 

[noprop]

LOL you have no idea what you are talking about. From zero androgen to normal levels tests receptors will be always UPREGULATED

and it never worked for anyone with PFS to take test or proviron or to cycle both. Since this will cause hypokalemia

I restored myself back to 70% just in matter of 2 days. just taking 50000 potassium LOL

Read online what they did in the tests.
Dont guess.
This cycling is against deca dick, not pfs. This is what K discussed with IHF. Thats why the protocol is a bit different. If you dont mind, go through the post properly. We can avoid easily missunderstandings.

I dont know which symptoms you had and which you treated with potass. and how your protocol really looked like. Thats half of the needed information.

 

[noprop]

If he raised testosterone to supra levels he will downregulate them further. but he could not even do low test levels, since any test will cause further hypokalemia. And anxiety and shrinkage by converting dopamine into adrenaline ))

this is why I suggested for him test with progesterone to avoid dopamine to adrenaline conversion.

Will it stick? we dont know yet.


It is much faster to do the same with anavar. I would assume

Anavar - exactely. You suggested it.Here is an i teresting link saying supralevels are not downregulating ar if I understood well. He doubts the studies on cells.
https://thinksteroids.com/articles/androgen-receptor-regulation/

 

[IHateFin]

Total within 2 days

This is what Troy also did. He went on potassium , then went off and boom restored

Potassium gets rid of zinc from the cell. So it lowers zinc finger. plus it starts the axis

interesting... i may try this at a much later time if needed (hoping it wont be needed) lol

i will tell you i once took like 1 tsp of potassium i think like 600mg maybe more at once and it made me feel off and dizzyish, and anxious, but i snapped out of it and had the greatest massive pump in the gym that day... like stamina through the roof.. not sure what it did, but maybe this makes sense... so high dose potassium lowers prog and takes zinc out of the cell to lower zinc finger? thus downregulating and halping to normalize the receptors whist activating the HPTA? am i following?

 

[noprop]

Total within 2 days

This is what Troy also did. He went on potassium , then went off and boom restored

Potassium gets rid of zinc from the cell. So it lowers zinc finger. plus it starts the axis

What receptors did you have? I dont See clearly the link between potassium loading and the Kind ofhttps://thinksteroids.com/articles/androgen-receptor-regulation/t receptor.

Total within 2 days

This is what Troy also did. He went on potassium , then went off and boom restored

Potassium gets rid of zinc from the cell. So it lowers zinc finger. plus it starts the axis

What receptors did you have to intake pottass.: up or down?