IHateFin
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You might even be able to test it with once a week high dose potassium n see how you snap back and repeat..
FINASTERIDE SIGNIFICANTLY UPREGULATES ANDROGEN RECEPTOR in this study ( PROTOCOLS and discussions for PFS)
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You might even be able to test it with once a week high dose potassium n see how you snap back and repeat..
So you had downsentisized ar? And are forcing them to upsent. by red.testo levels? I want to understand your sit.
So you had high test/dht? THX for a short reply.
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I think it increases testo and would downregulate. I guess.
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Correct. I believe after stopping fin, the body is then able to produce DHT and we are flooded. This coincides with the good feeling 10 to 14 days after stopping but then our receptors are overwhelmed & either killed off or down regulated. Since ppl have had brief spurts of normalcy by doing different products including going back on fin, it was my belief that the AR were down regulated. This is why ppl’s blood tests show normal hormone levels like DHt, but it sits there stagnant and our bodies are unreceptive to it.
Since I wouldn’t risk going back on fin, or trying a saw palmetto for a similar flush of dht and hence up regulation, I decided to put myself in a Low T state. Not enough testosterone to be comfortable on, and wait for my body to up regulate naturally. By starving my body of testosterone and it’s sister hormones estrogen and dht, I’m up regulating somewhat naturally.
Only time will tell if this sticks when I’m finally off but I started on 3/11 and plan minimum of 6 months.
The signs are promising and I seemed to improve about weekly. Lately not so much major improvements but I’m holding on to this.
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we have people with very low T and DHT also, and low estrogen / and we have people with high t and high dht. and high prolactin.
How do you get yourself in a low T state?
You are taking testosterone in already low testosterone state. And take progesterone which I told you to add.
Taking testosterone does not shut you down in low testosterone state
Just imagine, you have sensitive receptors. And the body shut down the LH.
Now you have lowish test, normal lowish Dht and low estrogen.
So your goal is to downregulate the receptor.
how would you go about it.
You can take low test so it does not convert much into estrogen, since if you take too much test, it will convert into estrogen and will upregulate the AR receptor.
You can also take test with AI. So this does not convert into estrogen and downregulates you AR receptor.
if you take too much testosterone without AI, then it will upregulate your receptor since a lot of it will go into estrogen.
I would assume if receptors were not sensitive, then LH will be high. trying to pump stuff constantly. Like what you get on clomid, which blocks Estrogen receptors.
Same as blocker. of AR receptor will causes also increased LH. I would assume
This is the same as people restored just on AI> you take AI for a while and that will downregulate your AR receptors. You feel like total garbage on AI, but when you come off, your AR receptors will be downregulated.
I thought I had downsentisized receptors AS well. In this case I had done the same way. I have to mention that M. said that some symptoms on fin get better with time. Of course, due to upsentisation due to lack of dht. Often seen after 6-8 months.
I guess that your AR has already upsentisized a bit and are waiting now for additional levels. Whatever you take, a slow withdrawal could be indicated.
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I'm so tempted to inject potassium into my veins and snort it like coke right now...
What AI can you take? A guy on solve took arimidex and destroyed his estro receptors and killed himself.
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LOl the guy on propeciahelp , took letro and restored all his adiol levels within 6 months by downregulating the AR receptor.
this is the only guy who I saw the actual tests of his success.
PFS has many cases, what is good for some people is not good for the others.
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he was doing a million things the AI was just one of things on his bucket list...
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Literally , the only dude, who I saw had restored his adiol levels on paper. Was the dude who went on letro for 6 months.
going on letro, makes more stuff available for test and DHT and downregulates the AR. Which is upregulated in all 18 people in the study)) that wuf provided,
going on letro, makes more stuff available for test and DHT and downregulates the AR. Which is upregulated in all 18 people in the study)) that wuf provided,
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Well apparently if you remember correctly, me and you are responsible for killing him based on our behavior on the chat....
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@joekool @noprop
I hope you guys realize that 100mg a week is a high dose testosterone for a regular person
regular male makes 4-7 mg a day, so in 7 days, it will be 49 mg which will put you in top range of testosterone levels
If someone is taking 100 a week, that is twice as much as the high end male.
I usually give 20=30 mg to people for TRT and this keeps their test high in blood without much conversion to estro.
100mg is the highest dosage I would say for the TRT, without much conversion into estro.
SO this will make a lot more test and DHT available to downregulate the AR receptor.
Usually people take too much testosterone and get old. I helped some guys who bodybuild and they take perfect dosage of testosterone for their metabolism.
If they take more, then all of them need progesterone right away.
So if you take test, or pinepollen, or anything of taht nature, and you have anxiety and dopamine conversion. You know immediately you are running too much test comparing to progesterone, and this will do nothing for you for bodybuilding. or anything,
Since only in balance sodium potassium ratio= the most power. If the ratio is 2 high, you will just retain water and get old. if the ratio of progesterone to test is too low you will lose too much muscle.
Most people have slighly lower ratio of sodium to potassium. this is why if they take measured test just tiny amounts like 5 a week, or 10 a week, then they will be balanced and they will never ever need PCT. or it will never cause the shut down, but will cause only good things.
I hope you guys realize that 100mg a week is a high dose testosterone for a regular person
regular male makes 4-7 mg a day, so in 7 days, it will be 49 mg which will put you in top range of testosterone levels
If someone is taking 100 a week, that is twice as much as the high end male.
I usually give 20=30 mg to people for TRT and this keeps their test high in blood without much conversion to estro.
100mg is the highest dosage I would say for the TRT, without much conversion into estro.
SO this will make a lot more test and DHT available to downregulate the AR receptor.
Usually people take too much testosterone and get old. I helped some guys who bodybuild and they take perfect dosage of testosterone for their metabolism.
If they take more, then all of them need progesterone right away.
So if you take test, or pinepollen, or anything of taht nature, and you have anxiety and dopamine conversion. You know immediately you are running too much test comparing to progesterone, and this will do nothing for you for bodybuilding. or anything,
Since only in balance sodium potassium ratio= the most power. If the ratio is 2 high, you will just retain water and get old. if the ratio of progesterone to test is too low you will lose too much muscle.
Most people have slighly lower ratio of sodium to potassium. this is why if they take measured test just tiny amounts like 5 a week, or 10 a week, then they will be balanced and they will never ever need PCT. or it will never cause the shut down, but will cause only good things.
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Bro this has me rolling! Lol!
Did you actually take the high dose potassium cuz I'm thinking of doing it Monday too haha
Does it feel like cuming?
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High dose potassium makes me unable to sleep. I did it before. I feel great next day though.
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Haha bro. I get so sleepy on high dose potassium like valium. legs get very sleepy 2 and everything is so slow )))
it does not feel like cumming, it fees like tons of valium
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Whatttt smh what happened never heard about that? I crashed and joined like 2 months after.
The whole “estrogen pfs” confuses shit out of me. I feel so bad for Konflict. I don’t know if he’s out there but I had several long talks with him last year. He was in bad shape. He stopped answering texts in January or so. I wish he would respond and we can get him on this site.