Evolution, Diet and Genetics

[noprop]

They've tried a lot. He's just a kid, 18.
But he's gotten a lot better. I think he was on a lot, incl chemo, and Lamotrigine and anti seizure meds.

Way less since taking medical cannabis.
I'll look into it. Thanks man. He's stoned all the time... But we hung out recently he and his family are in good spirits. Possibly remission or something similar.

His parents are fully committed and the dad is super smart. So they've tried tons. I'll find out more and tell him what I find.
I'll pass him the link.

The problem with chemo is that such a cancer can come back more aggressively.
It depends also if benign or not.
But for sure, his dad doesn't know the things I mentioned. Canab is good but you can develop psychosis on it.
pm me to get the link. In Germany, it is forbidden to make biological c.therapy public. I know this guy.
Or do your research on ECT. This guy treated a young woman with BC as well cause docs couldn't do anything anymore. Stabilised very well. And it is not expensive. Best .PS: There is a German doc in the us treating very successfully can . I try to find the name on ytube. Best

 

[HerrFisch]

Again I think we primarily ate meat from big animals. Saturated animal fat and cholesterol.

If we could survive on a plant-based diet then vegans would be healthy today:

But hey, they all look malnourished. A lot of them also have mental issues (depression, anxiety). Just like a lot of people today. Most people today eat plant-based diet with a little bit of meat.

We also cannot digest cellulose which is in plants.

Herbivores/omnivores can convert plants into fatty acids. We cannot. So we do not get any fatty acids out of plants.

The only thing plants can be used for is energy: conversion to glucose for energy. Probably to get the next kill.

I think most disease today is because of plant-based diets.

LOL the guy that posted that video is really crazy.
You really have to look at some other videos from him
He is a flat earther as well haha
And his giggles are cringy

 

[barbaar]

LOL the guy that posted that video is really crazy.
You really have to look at some other videos from him
He is a flat earther as well haha
And his giggles are cringy

Omg this is a joke right

I hope he never goes to Australia! He'd fall off!

 

[RebelWithACause]

LOL the guy that posted that video is really crazy.
You really have to look at some other videos from him
He is a flat earther as well haha
And his giggles are cringy

No one is right 100% of the time.

I agree with him that veganism is clearly pushed by companies. Veganism is unhealthy for humans. He has interesting ideas. I like the guy. Most people are cookie cutter. Afraid to think differently. I am not saying he does not have crazy ideas. He obviously does. But you can agree with a crazy person.

Just like a lot of people say gbolduev is crazy. People are quick to call someone who thinks different or that has different theories crazy. Maybe because it is scary.

 

[raven]

No one is right 100% of the time.

I agree with him that veganism is clearly pushed by companies. Veganism is unhealthy for humans. He has interesting ideas. I like the guy. Most people are cookie cutter. Afraid to think differently. I am not saying he does not have crazy ideas. He obviously does. But you can agree with a crazy person.

Just like a lot of people say gbolduev is crazy. People are quick to call someone who thinks different or that has different theories crazy. Maybe because it is scary.

We all take some things on faith, few of us have proved scientifically to ourselves that the Earth revolves around the Sun or that we have evolved from microorganisms over billions of years, but we believe it because scientists tell us it's true, and we trust them. So I understand why someone who has had that faith shattered in one way by scientists can start to doubt everything they read, and I don't think they are crazy, but ultimately they are still naive.

I wish instead of veganism/vegetarianism as the main movement behind pro animal rights we had an approach of humane meat eating. I agree completely with vegetarians who are disgusted by the way they treat animals in the fast food industry, keeping them in tiny cages, shooting them full of hormones, it's disgusting, but the solution is not to stop eating meat, it is to start eating meat only from sources where the animals are treated humanely and are kept healthy.

 

[RebelWithACause]

We all take some things on faith, few of us have proved scientifically to ourselves that the Earth revolves around the Sun or that we have evolved from microorganisms over billions of years, but we believe it because scientists tell us it's true, and we trust them. So I understand why someone who has had that faith shattered in one way by scientists can start to doubt everything they read, and I don't think they are crazy, but ultimately they are still naive.

I wish instead of veganism/vegetarianism as the main movement behind pro animal rights we had an approach of humane meat eating. I agree completely with vegetarians who are disgusted by the way they treat animals in the fast food industry, keeping them in tiny cages, shooting them full of hormones, it's disgusting, but the solution is not to stop eating meat, it is to start eating meat only from sources where the animals are treated humanely and are kept healthy.

Yes it is disgusting. I agree. I think even this guy from the video says this. He only eats meat from healthy animals (local farmer for example).

Meat can be great nutrition if it is from a healthy animal. Probably the best nutrition.

 

[raven]

Yes it is disgusting. I agree. I think even this guy from the video says this. He only eats meat from healthy animals (local farmer for example).

Meat can be great nutrition if it is from a healthy animal. Probably the best nutrition.

Exactly, I get all my meat from local farmers who I know treat the animals well, I have been buying organ meats, which are really expensive, but they contain all the nutrients the organ needed while the animal was alive, so are incredibly rich in nutritional value, well worth it in my opinion

 

[RebelWithACause]

Exactly, I get all my meat from local farmers who I know treat the animals well, I have been buying organ meats, which are really expensive, but they contain all the nutrients the organ needed while the animal was alive, so are incredibly rich in nutritional value, well worth it in my opinion

That's cool. I bought some liver last week. Yes organs are like multivitamin of nature. More bioavailable too probably.

 

[noprop]

Yes it is disgusting. I agree. I think even this guy from the video says this. He only eats meat from healthy animals (local farmer for example).

Meat can be great nutrition if it is from a healthy animal. Probably the best nutrition.

Maybe it is the noutriture we have been best adapted for dozens of thousand of years but! get nowadays only meat from animals treated with hormons and antibiotics. How can this not affect us?
As a hunter, we did not eat regurarely. No heavy metals (except a knife stuck in the body which could inhibit methylation pathways. No parasites, no electrosmog and so on.
If we really want a complete holistic way, I feel! that going into wilderness and going for hunt with several friends for just two weeks could change a lot re our hormonal etc.state.
One guy on pH recovered for a certain time eating exclusively red meat. And drinking water. .Only our body can heal itself and bring itself to a balance he knows! Pfs is kinda healing process, body tries different things on his own. But is stuck with intoxification, pathogens etc. due to reduced abilities.

 

[supernature]

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[noprop]

A good ex of healthy diet and activity that existed in Karl Mays's novels is the stories around Old Shatterhand, Old Firehand etc, where those ppl were riding for days and weeks w/o stopping, eating sun dried red meat from hunted wildlife, were able to see in the dark very well, had super strength throwing people unconscious on the ground with only one hit, fight Grizly bear killing it with a knife, very fast and resistant.

We have to activate those abilities. Instead of a grizzly I need something else

 

[supernature]

We have to activate those abilities. Instead of a grizzly I need something else

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[Niles]

Again I think we primarily ate meat from big animals. Saturated animal fat and cholesterol.

If we could survive on a plant-based diet then vegans would be healthy today:

But hey, they all look malnourished. A lot of them also have mental issues (depression, anxiety). Just like a lot of people today. Most people today eat plant-based diet with a little bit of meat.

We also cannot digest cellulose which is in plants.

Herbivores/omnivores can convert plants into fatty acids. We cannot. So we do not get any fatty acids out of plants.

The only thing plants can be used for is energy: conversion to glucose for energy. Probably to get the next kill.

I think most disease today is because of plant-based diets.

It's possible to be vegan and be healthy, it just depends on the person, how strong their digestion is, and if they eat smart to hit their macros. I had an old co-worker who went totally raw vegan and within 6mos looked 5rs younger. He maintained muscle, lost excessive fat, his beard grew thicker, his skin looked better, and he became a lot nicer too lol. Also this guy:

It's not for everybody, but some people do well on a vegan diet so long as they are smart about it.

 

[Aleksandr]

How did we evolve? Was it adaptation to enhance the species or involuntary changes due to several factors, diet being one of the primary forces.

Diet seems to be a primary mover in genetic expression and human development. It is likely that the evolution of the diversity of the human species was primarily driven by the mostly plant based diet of our ancestors.

One reason for plant consumption contributing to the diverse attributes of the human gene pool is because of the diversity of chemistry found in many plants globally....

We're going to evolve here! With banana, almond, cacao and yoghurt smoothies! !

 

[Aleksandr]

Btw a good theory is that people with genes from equitorial regions do well on high carb (probably protein sparing or phosphorus retaining genes), but people with genes far from the equator do well on high fat and protein.

 

[Reverse]

I'm currently meditating on a theory of evolution. This theory probably exists, but here's my thinking...

We started off from two common ancestors, a man and woman...

They were superhuman, intelligent, strong and fully developed. They had offspring and those offspring spread out across earth encountering adversities.

These adversities were sometimes a benefit and other times a hindrance to their development. In other words, exposure to the elements in nature...tbc

 

[Reverse]

Did we start of as perfect superior human specimens and slowly degrade to our current form or is it really as we're told, that we evolved and slowly became improved versions.

If we have slowly become weaker copies of our former selves (ancestors), then is it possible to become stronger versions into the future. Specifically without the Devils tech CRISPR or whatever other methods arise.

It is easier to destroy than to build

Questions might be difficult but it is worse to live in darkness. The answers lead to solutions.

Hopefully labs will be available, but I have an ethical dilemma of experimentation.

Samsara, karma, cursed up to the 5th generation....is it all connected???

 

[Niles]

Did we start of as perfect superior human specimens and slowly degrade to our current form or is it really as we're told, that we evolved and slowly became improved versions.

If we have slowly become weaker copies of our former selves (ancestors), then is it possible to become stronger versions into the future. Specifically without the Devils tech CRISPR or whatever other methods arise.

It is easier to destroy than to build

Questions might be difficult but it is worse to live in darkness. The answers lead to solutions.

Hopefully labs will be available, but I have an ethical dilemma of experimentation.

Samsara, karma, cursed up to the 5th generation....is it all connected???

I don't think you'll find any objective answers to these kinds of questions, because it's all relative. How do you define when we "started off"? 200,000 years ago, when we estimate the first homo sapiens roamed Africa, or 5000 years ago at the start of civilization? And what do you mean by "superior"? The population of our species is at an all-time high and still growing exponentially, so from a procreative perspective we're currently at our most superior.

Maybe the distinction you're looking for is when we shifted from adapting to our environment, through biological evolution, to adapting our environment to us, through cultural and technological evolution. This shift has brought us to the point where we don't need strength, speed, aggression, and increasingly, even intelligence to thrive because now technological and societal infrastructure do all the heavy lifting. Does that mean we're inferior to our ancient ancestors? Only if you're judging based on traits required to thrive in their environment, i.e. the wild. But we don't live in the wild, and if you're judging based on traits required to live in modern society, then our ancient ancestors would be inferior to us.

I think the real question is whether we're changing our environment too quickly for us to keep up with through biological evolution, and I believe the answer to that is a definite yes - our planet is fucked due to our exploitation of it's resources and disruption of natural balance, so in time we'll inevitably hit a point where we either make a major course correction on a global scale or face mass extinction.

 

[Reverse]

I don't think you'll find any objective answers to these kinds of questions, because it's all relative. How do you define when we "started off"? 200,000 years ago, when we estimate the first homo sapiens roamed Africa, or 5000 years ago at the start of civilization? And what do you mean by "superior"? The population of our species is at an all-time high and still growing exponentially, so from a procreative perspective we're currently at our most superior.

Maybe the distinction you're looking for is when we shifted from adapting to our environment, through biological evolution, to adapting our environment to us, through cultural and technological evolution. This shift has brought us to the point where we don't need strength, speed, aggression, and increasingly, even intelligence to thrive because now technological and societal infrastructure do all the heavy lifting. Does that mean we're inferior to our ancient ancestors? Only if you're judging based on traits required to thrive in their environment, i.e. the wild. But we don't live in the wild, and if you're judging based on traits required to live in modern society, then our ancient ancestors would be inferior to us.

I think the real question is whether we're changing our environment too quickly for us to keep up with through biological evolution, and I believe the answer to that is a definite yes - our planet is fucked due to our exploitation of it's resources and disruption of natural balance, so in time we'll inevitably hit a point where we either make a major course correction on a global scale or face mass extinction.

Mass extinction is already on the horizon. Infertility has increased among men and women, predominantly western.

Due to various factors but mainly as you pointed to being technology. If we let go of our true nature too much, sperm counts will continue to drop along with women being less fertile.

Human degredation is greater in first world than third world nations according to the sources I've read.

Also isn't there new findings of human species originating from other areas other than Africa?

 

[MNK99]

Yes there are.2
And God I hope so.1
6th extinction.2
Xfiles.3 other research 4.
Just wait till Hominid Alien Hybrids are revealed. 5