FINASTERIDE SIGNIFICANTLY UPREGULATES ANDROGEN RECEPTOR in this study ( PROTOCOLS and discussions for PFS)

[Helen]

Also I had 2 guys got cured from POIS 3 years ago. One of them works for government in russia and he had to get vaccinated , got vaccinated and what do you think. POIS , CFS PSF you name it. He is back to the hell . and vaccine did not touch his receptors, or anything. it just killed his glut, which killed all the signaling, meaning DNA part of the receptors, which are zinc fingers.

Crazy stuff. really. He was fixed for years. and boom.

 

[bruschi11]

I think nutritional balancing is a prerequisite for health.

While some accomplish it via outside methods- fasting, killing infections... the body is supposed to find its nutritional balance.

But ARL, TEI- this kick starts your balancing efforts which is important in getting you healthy earlier. I don’t think one should be entirely dependent on nutritional balancing. But I think it is extremely important for fixing the whole self for such a high percentage of the chronically ill.

One example- copper. You’re screwed with copper toxicity. Your mind will never be right. Without a right mind you’ll never entirely have health. It will keep you from body getting back to its place.

Another thought is just the power of the electrolytes in optimum ratio. That’s just science and something as easy as 1+1. The cell is stronger, the body is stronger to fight disease and clear up imbalances. @Slayo

 

[Helen]

Idk what they r made of lol, some kind of metal anyways

Well you better find out which metal it is ))

 

[Helen]

@bruschi11 and @Slayo

You know how I used ARL and TEI. I used it as a balancing tool. I basically was chelating and experimenting like crazy. but I always knew that if shit hits the fan, I just go on ARL and TEI and it gets me out of bad situation, and it did so many times.
I Fucked myself up multiple times, and ARL and TEI always pulled me out of the danger zone.


Sometimes I would have heart palpitations and totally losing, it and it is so hard to know which mineral in the moment you need. to fix it. some people look for that minerals for years just to fix one little problem

So if someone wanted to fuck around with things, you always know if bad shit happens , you can always go to TEI and get balanced for a couple of months to get at least stable again


But I am telling you all that swimming in the sea daily and fasting at the same time. FOR me was stronger than anything else.

 

[Nina]

Well you better find out which metal it is ))

its nickel

 

[Orion]

I think Aluminum is my issue, beside silica water and silica gel, what else gets Al out? EDTA?

 

[TubZy]

I think @Helen you have too much trust in TEI or ARL, nutritional balancing isn't new stuff inhealth groups, and i'min health groups for 4 years, many people do good on nutritional balancing (but it is very slow, it takes years), but many others don't make any single improvement even after several years.
I see people on nutritional balancing for 4 years and just starting to relase copper.
Don't get me wrong i think ARL and TEI are good but either these guys miss to know many imbalances or nutritional balancing on its own isn't enough

I agree, but as of now it is the safest option and it covers like an umbrella rather than isolating just one component of a problem. That is why @Helen is working to figure out a way to either speed the ARL/TEI process up or mimic it in a more isolated stronger way that works much more efficiently.

 

[bruschi11]

No, dont expect any strength improvements if you chose to deal with the infections. do you have the infections. I mean i had the tumors, so I could feel and see them.



Prooxidants are not pro libido. they kill your receptors proteins, everything. and infections of course also.

It is only after you go off pro oxidants, you get the higher libido then before, since now you have more IRON available.

I dont know your situation with the infections. If you have them hidden and they are not obvious, Then do a couple may be 3 cycles with ozone.

B vitamins are taken after the cycle, not on OZONE. , b vitamins are antioxidants. OZONE Is pro oxidant, it kills shit.

So do 3 cycles of ozone, and then go on TEI and dont add anything, to it.

Alrighty good stuff. I have infections aplenty. Mycoplasma igm, igg bloods still showed in 25-2700 range 2 months ago. We caught it a 14 months ago when I was literally mentally, physically disabled in the 3700 range.

I know the igm, igg just show immune system to the infection. I’m sure that if that’s a testing for total myco in body it’s less than 10% of what it was when I was really really bad. But I still feel plenty herx from doing ozone, rife machine treatments. Actually herx from tei supps too. Chelation has been better, will be interesting to see my mercury.

I’m going to do something like a 6 day on 6 day off ozone thing. One cycle done, on day 2 off right now.

Any type of diet, or supplementation you’d advise while on ozone? Maybe just to help me feel better and deal with the herx.

 

[Slayo]

@Nina the other solid options are chelation and gut treatmemt.
Adding quicksilver stuffs, sauna, infrared lamp on liver to TEI, getting these metals out, otherwise just on TEI it will take forever.
Treating the gut, as gut inflammation downregulates transporters of toxins, and probiotics, especially bravo probiotics detoxify from metals, once in the gut they are picked up by machrophages and lymphocytes and go into the lymphatic system and then into the, brain where they bind to metals.

Yes Helen toxicity is the root of almost everything

 

[Helen]

its nickel

Nickel kills histidine . since we have nickel SOD.

People usually get crazy prostatitis from nickel toxicity guys, they have CFS and crazy inflammation. I am not sure if girls get the same in their organs.

But I know many people used histidine to chelate nickel out to get rid of POIS. I had several people get rid of POIS this way

 

[Slayo]

@bruschi11 and @Slayo

You know how I used ARL and TEI. I used it as a balancing tool. I basically was chelating and experimenting like crazy. but I always knew that if shit hits the fan, I just go on ARL and TEI and it gets me out of bad situation, and it did so many times.
I Fucked myself up multiple times, and ARL and TEI always pulled me out of the danger zone.


Sometimes I would have heart palpitations and totally losing, it and it is so hard to know which mineral in the moment you need. to fix it. some people look for that minerals for years just to fix one little problem

So if someone wanted to fuck around with things, you always know if bad shit happens , you can always go to TEI and get balanced for a couple of months to get at least stable again


But I am telling you all that swimming in the sea daily and fasting at the same time. FOR me was stronger than anything else.

You tell fasting is the best thing you tried, fasting almost recovered me but i did some other stuffs while fasting, when i will be ready for the next one i will open a thread and we will discuss it

 

[Helen]

I think Aluminum is my issue, beside silica water and silica gel, what else gets Al out? EDTA?

al is a lot of people issues, since it effects acetylcholinesterase adn then peopel get acetycholine imbalances.

Look at our PFS PSSD CFS shit. it is not a surprise peopel are helped with cholines, or feel worse from cholines.

POIS PFS the actual symptoms stem from acetylcholine high or low. Which causes crazy effects.

Acetycholine signals to secrete ACTH. SO basically , if you dont have that. you have CFS.


I personally use no shampoos, no stupid products, no soap/ I wash just with water. and have been for many years already.


It is amazing how better it gets from just washing with water with no products. hair stays clean for so loong.

 

[Helen]

You tell fasting is the best thing you tried, fasting almost recovered me but i did some other stuffs while fasting, when i will be ready for the next one i will open a thread and we will discuss it

yeah, bud if you want to fast together , lets do it. I love fasting. I did some crazy fasting, to the point when you see Jesus.

One time I was laying on the bed, and my body was just shaking in andrenaline, like crazy,


I divide fasting in 3 healing reactions. first is after 14 days, first acidic crisis. then it is around day 27. and then at day 40-45

At day 40-50 that is when receptors rebuild. All the fasting for like 10 days, people do , that is not fasting, that is starving LOL IMO nothing happens during this time, it is too short.

After day 25 you dont want to ever eat. in my case.

I want to try to get to forth acidic crash , I think it is at day 60. I will do it someday, on just water. It is hard.

I have a friend who did this and he said that the crisis at day 60 is insane. You start seeing shit. like your intuition gets crazy after that kinds of fasting.


In russia fasting is done for 40 days. it is standard and most people who do it, go for that.


breuss fasting is good, but not as effective. for infections. IMO but very very good for heavy metals

 

[Slayo]

yeah, bud if you want to fast together , lets do it. I love fasting. I did some crazy fasting, to the point when you see Jesus.

One time I was laying on the bed, and my body was just shaking in andrenaline, like crazy,


I divide fasting in 3 healing reactions. first is after 14 days, first acidic crisis. then it is around day 27. and then at day 40-45

At day 40-50 that is when receptors rebuild. All the fasting for like 10 days, people do , that is not fasting, that is starving LOL IMO nothing happens during this time, it is too short.

After day 25 you dont want to ever eat. in my case.

I want to try to get to forth acidic crash , I think it is at day 60. I will do it someday, on just water. It is hard.

I have a friend who did this and he said that the crisis at day 60 is insane. You start seeing shit. like your intuition gets crazy after that kinds of fasting.


In russia fasting is done for 40 days. it is standard and most people who do it, go for that.


breuss fasting is good, but not as effective. for infections. IMO but very very good for heavy metals

I did 10 days as i was (and still am) very skinny, and it helped me a lot, BUT i did other stuffs while fasting that i think improved a lot the outcome, even my eye colour changed after the 10 days lol

But if i had enough weight i would have done 40-60 days no problem, now i'm trying to get other 4kg so i can do 14 days, but it is fucking hard

 

[Pedro melo]

I did 10 days as i was (and still am) very skinny, and it helped me a lot, BUT i did other stuffs while fasting that i think improved a lot the outcome, even my eye colour changed after the 10 days lol

But if i had enough weight i would have done 40-60 days no problem, now i'm trying to get other 4kg so i can do 14 days, but it is fucking hard

Im on fasting bRO, what other things did you do. To improve? I dont havê energy to do nothing...
I remember Helen Saying that swimming in the ocean was for upregulated receptors... Im not sure my case but I wanted to go to the beach at least one or two days

 

[bruschi11]

The best thing I did was my 21 day water/breuss fast with probiotic enemas on like 17 of the nights. Would be nice to see what swimming in salt water during it would’ve done.

Digestion, metabolism, fatigue improved tenfold. Thing is I got even better for 4 months following it. It wasn’t like I fasted and felt well. 4 weeks later felt better, 4 weeks after that better, at 12 weeks I took picture of myself with shirt off couldn’t believe the before and after. Same weight both times 175 lbs.

My ski injury which led to laziness and weight gain/ sub par diet + hydrogen water put me back into a mess. But it’s a different mess than before. Just a completely different body chemistry. With much more libido but physical, mental stuff issues.

I’d say I’ve had 5-6 distinct body chemistries during this journey thus far over the last 15 months. It’s crazy you’re like 2 different people. Or 5 or 6 that is haha.

 

[Orion]

al is a lot of people issues, since it effects acetylcholinesterase adn then peopel get acetycholine imbalances.

Look at our PFS PSSD CFS shit. it is not a surprise peopel are helped with cholines, or feel worse from cholines.

POIS PFS the actual symptoms stem from acetylcholine high or low. Which causes crazy effects.

Acetycholine signals to secrete ACTH. SO basically , if you dont have that. you have CFS.


I personally use no shampoos, no stupid products, no soap/ I wash just with water. and have been for many years already.


It is amazing how better it gets from just washing with water with no products. hair stays clean for so loong.

My skin is too oily to not use some type of shampoo, but I only use plain shampoo twice per week.

Al seems to effect my krebs cycle, and then degrades beta oxidation(excessive sebum), malic acid patches it, will be testing alpha-ketoglutarate this weekend. Al is elevated in my hairtest even after my 2 month Bruess fast. Aluminum is said to affected carnitine synthesis, so again degrading beta-oxidation and increasing oiliness

Planning another long fast in Oct/Nov for me. Everything I have done so far has greatly helped my skin, but some how my body re-focuses and keeps the oily skin coming back... driving me mad!

 

[Pedro melo]

The best thing I did was my 21 day water/breuss fast with probiotic enemas on like 17 of the nights. Would be nice to see what swimming in salt water during it would’ve done.

Digestion, metabolism, fatigue improved tenfold. Thing is I got even better for 4 months following it. It wasn’t like I fasted and felt well. 4 weeks later felt better, 4 weeks after that better, at 12 weeks I took picture of myself with shirt off couldn’t believe the before and after. Same weight both times 175 lbs.

My ski injury which led to laziness and weight gain/ sub par diet + hydrogen water put me back into a mess. But it’s a different mess than before. Just a completely different body chemistry. With much more libido but physical, mental stuff issues.

I’d say I’ve had 5-6 distinct body chemistries during this journey thus far over the last 15 months. It’s crazy you’re like 2 different people. Or 5 or 6 that is haha.

That's what I feel... I want to do the right things... Probably in the refeeding I will fell better.
I'll try the ocean although I don't have energy to swim I'll be there just hanging.
All I want is to be sure I can recover my weight and my will to workout coz right now it's low low

 

[Pedro melo]

My skin is too oily to not use some type of shampoo, but I only use plain shampoo twice per week.

Al seems to effect my krebs cycle, and then degrades beta oxidation(excessive sebum), malic acid patches it, will be testing alpha-ketoglutarate this weekend. Al is elevated in my hairtest even after my 2 month Bruess fast. Aluminum is said to affected carnitine synthesis, so again degrading beta-oxidation and increasing oiliness

Planning another long fast in Oct/Nov for me. Everything I have done so far has greatly helped my skin, but some how my body re-focuses and keeps the oily skin coming back... driving me mad!

Funny you say that... My skin is coming very very fry, sometimes white and rashing from the sun... Didn't know this ofs could be so powerfull

 

[SwaZ]

@Helen
Would fasting be safe if we have amalgam fillings or some type of ongoing toxicity during the fast?