"Cypro-Crash" or Cyproheptadine Crash and Cyproheptadine Tiredness/Lethardy (How to COUNTER-ACT/BLOCK Cyproheptadine Sedation 2018)

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A lot of folks have transitioned from the Ray Peat forum to here. There, Haidut and others regularly made References to the "Beneficial Properties" of Cyproheptadine.
However - there are a few things that AREN'T good about this Substance.
  1. It is Terribly Sedating - and can be VERY Impairing.
  2. It can cause Emotional Numbness.
  3. It can reduce Memory Abilities (due to anticholinergic action)
  4. It can be toxic to the Liver.
  5. It causes TOO-MUCH Weight Gain and can actually SLOW Metabolism; due to Anti-Histamine properties.
Because of these Adverse Effects - I do NOT routinely recommend Cyproheptadine without some counter-action to these Side-Effects. I also NEVER Personally take Cyproheptadine for MORE-THAN 4 days in a Row (12 mg MAX-Dosage). After a Week - I started to get Liver Cramps and darkening of Urine. Thankfully, I was deemed OK by Doctors. They even suggested limiting Cyproheptadine to a few times per week!

Cyproheptadine is an Anti-Serotonin, Anti-Histamine drug with many interesting properties. It is generally Prescribed for Allergies, Asthma, Dermatitis and other allergic-reactions. However, it is also (sometimes) used as an Appetite Stimulant - to improve Food Intake in those with Cancer or on Chemotherapy. It also improves Appetite in those with the Condition: Cystic Fibrosis [STUDY].

As discussed on Ray Peat forum, it can protect the Heart, Stimulate Libido (sexual desire), Treat/Cure SSRI-Sexual Dysfunction & PSSD - and can remarkably improve Energy Levels IF paired with Thyroid-Hormones; particularly T3 (Triiodothyronine).

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However, Cyproheptadine has unsavory Side-Effects including Same-Day Sedation [1]and "Next-Day-Sedation" [2], in many Cases, people get 'other' Disturbing Symptoms while taking Cyproheptadine to treat Hay Fever or other Allergic-Type Symptoms.

Some of the Symptoms associated with "Cyproheptadine-Crash" or Cyproheptadine Side-Effects include...

  1. Night-Time Anhedonia (lack of Pleasure/Desire/Feelings) (if Cyproheptadine is taken in the Morning-Time).​
  2. Extreme Sedation and Low-Energy Levels.​
  3. Depression.​
  4. Anxiety.​
  5. Worsening of OCD Symptoms ESPECIALLY in those that also have ADHD or fall into the "Low-Stimulation" Type of OCD.

To Counter-These Side-Effects, we MUST Do The Following!​

  1. Take 200 MG of Caffeine with Cyproheptadine pills, this will help to counter-act some of the Sedation.​
  2. Take T3-Thyroid Pills (buy-here-with-discount), this will SKY-ROCKET Core Energy Production, Body Heat & Metabolism!​
  3. Use L-Histidine (2,000 MG or 2 Grams; 4 Capsules) + Kutaj Bark - these will help block anti-histamine Effects of Cyproheptadine - while PRESERVING the anti-Serotonin, Pro-Dopamine effects of Cyproheptadine.​
  4. Vitamin B12 can REVERSE Negative Effects of Histamine H2-Antagonists on Fertility, in Men - so taking a SHOT or BIG-DOSE of Liquid Vitamin B12 (Secret 12 is the Best Brand!) could help Repair Sperm Production in Men [STUDY].​
  5. Lastly...you can take an herb ALONE called "KUTAJ/KUTAJA" which is known by its botanical name: Hollarhena Antidysenterica - which contains Conessine; aHistamine-stimulator [Reference 1] [Reference 2].
  6. By taking all of the above; Caffeine, T3, L-Histidine, Kutaj Bark Powder &Vitamin B12 - you can Effectively BLOCK/REVERSE Cyproheptadine's negativeside-effects; such as Sedation and Emotional Numbness!

PHARMACOLOGICAL LESSONS IN CYPROHEPTADINE MECHANISMS

  1. Cyproheptadine BLOCKS Histamine H(1) Receptors, that means it TRANQUILIZES the nervous system by reducing Histamine-related Voltage in the Brain [3] [4] [5].​
  2. Cyproheptadine blocks Histamine H2-Receptors [6], thus leading to Reduced Stomach Acid and Metabolism [7][8].​
  3. Cyproheptadine blocks Acetylcholine [9]; a Neurotransmitter that increases Alertness & Attention [9][10][11].​
  4. Cyproheptadine, but not most other antihistamines (allergy-pills) blocks CALCIUMin the Brain [12]. This can lead to lower Blood Pressure and reduced Energy Levels[13].​
  5. Cyproheptadine & other AntiHistamines block Sodium Channels [14], mildly, which may also SEDATE the CNS - Central Nervous System [15]
  6. Histamine helps to promote Brain Function by stimulating NMDA-Receptors [16] - thus, Cyproheptadine will DIRECTLY by means of blocking Histamine - cause reduction in Global Brain Function by reducing Glutamate-Responses, and firing.
Because of these Multiple Mechanisms by which Cyproheptadine can be Sedating, or Impairing - it is Crucial that one understands their own Biological Susceptibility. For example, if you have Prior taken some things to improve Brain Function - such as"Nootropics" or "Smart Drugs" - specifically things like Alpha-Brain - and you noticed a Night-and-Day Difference - then Cyproheptadine probably isn't for You.



If Benadryl [Diphenhydramine] causes you unbearable Sedation/Tiredness - then Cyproheptadine will *likely* be Worse.


Those who react badly to antihistamines & Allergy-Pills in general, should not use Cyproheptadine.


Those with Food Allergies usually have HIGH Serum (Blood) Histamine and LOW Breakdown (bodily removal) of Histamine via LOW Diamine Oxidase levels (an Enzyme that Removes Histamine). Thus, taking Caffeine may be a *probable* DANGERfor those with Food Allergies/Sensitivities.


Because GENES play a Substantial Role in Food & General Allergy Susceptibility - using a Genetic Screening Tool such as PROMETHEASE may be a Viable Option, better to be Safe than Sorry!


Genetic Factors in Histamine also control Asthma-susceptibility AND Severity!

Brain Histamine & Behavioral NeuroScience is a Research/Study Paper that talks about the Growing Wealth of Research involving Histamine in Behavioral Motivations (2018).

Miscellaneous Cyproheptadine Research & General Histamine Research 2018

EXPLORATION OF THE INTERRELATIONSHIP OF SEROTONIN WITH THE EPINEPHRINES AND HISTAMINE*

Pitolisant, an inverse agonist of the histamine H3 receptor: an alternative stimulant for narcolepsy-cataplexy in teenagers with refractory sleepiness.
 

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ALL substances that dont belong in the body Are garbage LOL

you can put this list on any substance, since every substance is dual.

Same list can be done on DHT gel, on testosterone, dopamine agonists, ETC>

And sides and bad implications are as bad as cypro and other crap

Anything that unbalances the body LEADs to shit.

even if this unbalance can feel good for the moment LOL
 

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WHAT IF A SUBSTANCE HELPS SOMEONE DRIVE AND PAY THEIR BILLS AND SHYT AND NOT FUCK UP ANYONE?? AND GO FROM 87th percentile to 99th in less time??
 

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ALL substances that dont belong in the body Are garbage LOL

you can put this list on any substance, since every substance is dual.

Same list can be done on DHT gel, on testosterone, dopamine agonists, ETC>

And sides and bad implications are as bad as cypro and other crap

Anything that unbalances the body LEADs to shit.

even if this unbalance can feel good for the moment LOL
Are you saying Cyproheptadine is GARBAGE, @Helen? I mean it does have SOME use. It helps block ACTH/Cortisol, and beta-endorphin and Prolactin. Which can stimulate the Endocrine-System in the "right" direction. In some cases, not all, of course. :)
 

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YEAH TRUE, I TRY AND AVOID THAT EXAMPLE THO WITH PPL thoughz.
 
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Are you saying Cyproheptadine is GARBAGE, @Helen? I mean it does have SOME use. It helps block ACTH/Cortisol, and beta-endorphin and Prolactin. Which can stimulate the Endocrine-System in the "right" direction. In some cases, not all, of course. :)


CYPRO is garbage. So the body is trying to raise cortisol to do some shit and some idiots takes Cypro and blocks it? Oh ok

How about just eat some food with b12 and bs so adrenaline starts up and cortisol lowers ))

Of course it block ACTh and CORTISOL , since it tanks the shit out of metabolism. Why do you need cortisol if you have zero ENGINE)


I agree all these things are for certain cases.
 

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CYPRO is garbage. So the body is trying to raise cortisol to do some shit and some idiots takes Cypro and blocks it? Oh ok

How about just eat some food with b12 and bs so adrenaline starts up and cortisol lowers ))

Of course it block ACTh and CORTISOL , since it tanks the shit out of metabolism. Why do you need cortisol if you have zero ENGINE)


I agree all these things are for certain cases.
Right, but in cases of Cushings, High-Serotonin and High-Cortisol there isn't really ANY other [VIABLE] Option???
 

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@Area-1255 So take some garbage into the body and then use another 20 things to block the garbage effects of the garabge that you take))

this is what pharma does)) give you one drug and then you have to take another 30 to block sides LOL


When in reality , there is only one substance that you need. you only have to find that substance which brings you to balance.

cant live on manual transmission. Human transmission is automatic. Have you tried using automatic transmission as manual.

DOES NOT END WELL.


The healthy people are those who take nothing from childhood. once you start taking shit, tylenol, advil, antibiotics, this that, FUCKED.

And nowadays supplemental industry , it is like a KILLER of humanity. Everyone wants to live on manual transmission. But cant, since not enough knowledge and thus AGE AGE AGE AGE
 

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Right, but in cases of Cushings, High-Serotonin and High-Cortisol there isn't really ANY other [VIABLE] Option???

I had Cushings , bud. I know . CYPRO is garbage for Cushings. I got rid of my adenoma without surgery LOL
 

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@Area-1255 So take some garbage into the body and then use another 20 things to block the garbage effects of the garabge that you take))

this is what pharma does)) give you one drug and then you have to take another 30 to block sides LOL


When in reality , there is only one substance that you need. you only have to find that substance which brings you to balance.

cant live on manual transmission. Human transmission is automatic. Have you tried using automatic transmission as manual.

DOES NOT END WELL.


The healthy people are those who take nothing from childhood. once you start taking shit, tylenol, advil, antibiotics, this that, FUCKED.

And nowadays supplemental industry , it is like a KILLER of humanity. Everyone wants to live on manual transmission. But cant, since not enough knowledge and thus AGE AGE AGE AGE
No...I just think that IF you CHOOSE to take Cyproheptadine it doesn't make sense to SUFFER the Side-Effects...so I'm simply offering an Alternative. :)
 

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Because he killed tons of innocent people? Because my grandparents had to hide from him and his army praying they wouldn’t die?

And its just disrespectful.
 

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@Area-1255 Most people have low serotonin, Since in slow oxidation , progesterone is raised to conserv potassium, a. most people are slow odixidizers. Ray Peat and Haidut push thyroid, but cant even take it themselves, SInce they are fast oxidizers. that is why they do good on calcium milk aspirin, acids, anything that lowers metabolism

And now what makes progesterone? NAD. NAD makes progesterone. So it is being spent like crazy.

How do you get to NAD? you get to NAD thru IDO . By using up all tryptophan.

This is why most people are on SSRI these days. Since no serotonin.
 

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I'm a little bit of an Anarchist, with a Mix of Racial Supremacy. I believe the Nordic, Germanic, Norman and English races are Superior in many ways. But I'm not so stupid as to paint them ALL with a broad stroke and say they are superior in EVERY-WAY. Every race has their Golden-Trophies, every race has their Extreme Achievers...there are NO-LIMITS by Race. But of course, there are tendencies among each Race to be Nationalistic (its Human Nature!??). For example, Canadians will praise THEIR Country and People. Will be more friendly with Fellow French-Canadians etc...Scandinavians will of course have much Pride and be nationalistic to their Own Countries people and their Cousins, Descendants and Family-Members who carry the bloodline through. Germans will always be German, and there will ALWAYS be German Pride. The "Dutch Pride" is REAL, and Nederlanders (Dutch) will always carry that Pride & their Unique sense of Ambition.
...So WHY I am I wrong for Mentioning Hitler??? @Nina

Because he killed tons of innocent people? Because my grandparents had to hide from him and his army praying they wouldn’t die?

And its just disrespectful.
Yes, he did. And he was a Terrible man in that aspect...but I was simply making a Joke about how Amphetamines can turn "sensitive" Minds into Power-Hungry Maniacs, or at least Empower their Resolve. :)
 

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I was kidding, right wing (economically many are incl me), but socially liberal or laissez faire, or libertarian... I'm a bit anarchistic too. ))

Yeah poor taste, can see how it's offensive , AREA was getting at how it's used in militaries... like from Sierra Leone to Canada (obviously different forces).
From child soldiers to air force, and everything inbetween, also lazy kids... BUT ALSO*** some who actually need em and do good things, some docs. Politicos, etc.
 
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