Skull expansion theory

SwaZ

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What do you guys think about the skull expansion theory?
May not be the cause of mpb but it definitely goes along with it.Seems like the temporal ridges grow out, thus we get hairloss on the temples of head, dont know about the back tho.
Look at most nw7 people who get Scalp Micropigmentation, on most of them it looks weird and like the cranium is too large, that hairline just doesnt fit on them.
 

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man how the fuck you gonna expand a skull?

LEFORT 1-3 are surgeries, but that's the most serious shyt ever nearly. AND THEY are not used for fun.

Really young ppl get bigger; skull looks less big. OH wait the opposite is asked here? I GUESS... WELL THERE ARE TIGHT SCALPS IN HAIR LOSS PATIENTS common complaint. FIBROSIS, SCARRING ALOPECIA, or also some scarring where it doesn't grow back, lightening of skin maybe? For certain types of hair loss (which like all docs will say is 100% genetic 100% of the time).
 

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^This^
See how the hairline moves back, following the temporal line for the most part
 

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He's all angled up and shyt.
The true test is seeing if his head size went up in tight shirts. Does his head stretch out cashmere sweaters???
 
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I borrowed all this from Ray Peat forum. But this is some serious complete hair regrowth using DHT blockers and estrogen. Of course this is MtF transgenderism, but if there is a way to emulate with herbs or some balancing. @Helen
 

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this I believe is proof that skull growth or enlargement , can be remodeled using DHT blockers and estrogen. Since DHT increases aldosterone, and aldosterone is VOLUME expanding in itself, maybe high DHT>high aldosterone>volume increase>skull growth>hair loss

Most of this is reducing test and increase estrogen. but one guy there, was using 50 mg daily of testosterone, along with estradiol for his hair growth. So the common denominator is lower DHT, increase test, increase estrogen?
 
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@tallglass13
Damn that is insaneee regrowth.
Im interested in the last post as the person claims all he/she needed was estradiol.
I remember helen talking about estradiol vs estrone ( i think ) for hair loss and other problems.
Maybe mpb is skewed ratios between estrogens along with high dht?
 

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I borrowed all this from Ray Peat forum. But this is some serious complete hair regrowth using DHT blockers and estrogen. Of course this is MtF transgenderism, but if there is a way to emulate with herbs or some balancing. @Helen

yes, I have written about it. Estrone to estradiol ratio.

This goes up, when metabolims is high. Otherwise estradiol will retain calcium.

DHT wastes potassium. Progesterone goes up. Estrogen goes down.

IF you block DHT , hair grows. since potassium goes back which raises estrogen.
 

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this I believe is proof that skull growth or enlargement , can be remodeled using DHT blockers and estrogen. Since DHT increases aldosterone, and aldosterone is VOLUME expanding in itself, maybe high DHT>high aldosterone>volume increase>skull growth>hair loss

Most of this is reducing test and increase estrogen. but one guy there, was using 50 mg daily of testosterone, along with estradiol for his hair growth. So the common denominator is lower DHT, increase test, increase estrogen?


This is what I told you remember, Testosterone should be higher than DHT, test should be converting into estradiol

The only thing you should understand also, if that guy was losing hair and it looked like diffusing hairloss, he could just have already high estrogen, but just not enough of it

This is why when he took test and estradiol , he had more estradiol. to slow down his metabolism



you can lose hair from slow or high metabolism.
 

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@Helen where does manganese fit with high iron-high dht hair loss theory

See periodic table LOL and you will understand

Some people lose hair from iron deficiency and some from iron toxicity.

There was a study where they studies people with hairloss and all of them had zero manganese.

WE dont know where this manganese was measured. Were they high in manganese or low we dont know

Since sometimes minerals which are low in blood could be high in the cell
 

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See periodic table LOL and you will understand

Some people lose hair from iron deficiency and some from iron toxicity.

There was a study where they studies people with hairloss and all of them had zero manganese.

WE dont know where this manganese was measured. Were they high in manganese or low we dont know

Since sometimes minerals which are low in blood could be high in the cell

OH SHIT
So its like Zn-Cu relationship i see lol

Yea i read about that study, manganese was low in all of them while zinc was low in like 50%
 

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@tallglass13 To me that dude, who claims that he regrew hair on estradiol , did not regrow anything at all.

the hair just got thicker. He did not even have a hairloss , really , just thinning.