Lyme disease (?) How would you treat

BC2018

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They might have made it more virulent, but it's likely been around as long as life on this planet
Maybe it was studied and altered, or maybe the natural remedies are being covered up. There is something shady about lyme.
 

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Yea definitely have lyme among other chronic infections, but been ignoring it and just focusung on my gut, mineral balancing, liver , detox
NO is in the toilet. all my vascularity is gone, something I noticed a few years ago as it faded to obscurity.. and I had viens popping on top of viens from genetics as well as decades in the gym
No test strip confirmed, citrulline/arginine has zero effect.. body just ignores it

Sidenote@Helen have my new arl and tei hairtest.. regarding manganese. It skyrocketed from prior test along with aluminum (off the chart) and magnesium and iron. 3 Amigos. Back to 4 highs

I'm definitely dumping right now and I don't want to interfere with it. Should I wait before I dive into norvaline?

Will post hair test results when I get the hardcopy, it was read to me over the phone yesterday..

interestingly tei didn't pick up on the aluminum dump or the manganese spike or the iron I believe.


Nice so as you dropped thyroid you went into 4 highs.
 

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Yea bro, u saved me months of spinning my wheels, appreciate it.
I need to run labs and see where it's at though

Yea we never had any reason to be on thyroid. I dropped mine last year before all my big improvements.

Let the body run on its own and it will when you put it in the right environment.

Wouldn’t fasting be great idea for 4 highs? Sauna?
 

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Yea we never had any reason to be on thyroid. I dropped mine last year before all my big improvements.

Let the body run on its own and it will when you put it in the right environment.

Wouldn’t fasting be great idea for 4 highs? Sauna?

I tried sauna the other day.. I'm totally dry, can't sweat a drop

Yea, I resisted thyroid meds for a few years but my t3 kept falling and iodine didn't do anything, going to try to tough it out .. there was a period a few years ago my thyroid kicked in on its own. so Im pretty sure I'm capable of being off it

fasting, not sure, my appetite has slowed, so maybe

I'm reading 4 highs is transitional period, will definitely be retesting in a 2-3 months..
are u going back on MB soon?

There's probably never going to be a perfect time.. Even though I feel like shit, it's nothing new..lol

But at least things are shifting in a better way
 

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I tried sauna the other day.. I'm totally dry, can't sweat a drop

Yea, I resisted thyroid meds for a few years but my t3 kept falling and iodine didn't do anything, going to try to tough it out .. there was a period a few years ago my thyroid kicked in on its own. so Im pretty sure I'm capable of being off it

fasting, not sure, my appetite has slowed, so maybe

I'm reading 4 highs is transitional period, will definitely be retesting in a 2-3 months..
are u going back on MB soon?

There's probably never going to be a perfect time.. Even though I feel like shit, it's nothing new..lol

But at least things are shifting in a better way

Will be awhile till actual MB. But I’m really hoping I can handle betaine HCL which is big part of TEI. My plan after fast is betaine hcl, dig enzymes , 1 multivitamin weekly, Lyme herbs , colostrum, and take some mins I’m low in like boron, germanium. Will trial norvaline too and continue to work with urine. Really good diet, exercise programs for myself too, salt/ mag baths, cold therapy, probiotic enemas.

Goal is to beat Lyme, cfs to a point where I’m feeling good, waking up well every day before NB. NB is tough when you’re this f’d up. Gotta make my body ready for it.
 

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If you take l norvailine, you will inhibit arginase and immune system will start killing it.
I got the stuff it was only available online how much do I take? 1/8 teaspoon per day? It's expensive! Like $20 for 25grams, a serving size is 400mg
 

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I’d take betaine hcl and wobenzyme with meals. And maybe even half the dose this suggests with the meals and see how you do.

Have you tried betaine hcl yet? This will help you digest the norvaline fully.
 

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Have you tried betaine hcl yet? This will help you digest the norvaline fully.
No it's the first I'm hearing of it, I've tried wobenzyme though for my joints I didn't notice any improvement and its an expensive supplement, is it supposed to do something for my stomach too?
 

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No it's the first I'm hearing of it, I've tried wobenzyme though for my joints I didn't notice any improvement and its an expensive supplement, is it supposed to do something for my stomach too?

Yea wobenzyme I use as my digestive enzymes. @Helen recommends it.

During my best days following this stuff, great digestion with help of betaine hcl and wobenzyme I felt were biggest key. This was after a lot of fasting and natural health work though. I was pretty sick though.
 

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great digestion with help of betaine hcl and wobenzyme I felt were biggest key
I started taking store bought ($45) 10ppm collidal silver to kill the lyme or whatever infection I have and I'm not noticing any difference and I'm taking way more than a teaspoon but if it's working does that mean i'm killing the good bacteria as well and need to retake probiotics? Previously they helped me a lot with depression and digestion and everyyear that I take some and the first week on them is a big improvement all around. Is there a brand of probiotics that is better than the general stuff
 

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Do you have any herxheimer reaction at all to colloidal? It’s not a bad thing if not.

There are a lot of ways of going at probiotics. I use visbiome and I do some probiotic enemas but I’m vastly under educated on the subject.
 

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Is there anything drastic I can do to improve the immune system I've been fatigued for years and years no wonder Lyme made me its bitch even before pfs. Can I travel to some spot on earth like the equator and eat some foods like orange peels and avocado seeds and get results faster? Progress is so slow maybe I need a tropical resort drug rehab type setting. If you laid on a beach in central america all day wouldn't your body heal and recover much faster from the sun exposure and absence of stress?
 
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What about Modified Citrus Pectin? I went to a lyme doctor who put me on a scoop a day and 1000mg Lysine every meal as anti-viral

I wouldn’t know, haven’t looked into it.
 

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Is there anything drastic I can do to improve the immune system I've been fatigued for years and years no wonder Lyme made me its bitch even before pfs. Can I travel to some spot on earth like the equator and eat some foods like orange peels and avocado seeds and get results faster? Progress is so slow maybe I need a tropical resort drug rehab type setting. If you laid on a beach in central america all day wouldn't your body heal and recover much faster from the sun exposure and absence of stress?

Mademoiselle Helen (Elena), said many months ago -- to FAST AND SWIM IN THE OCEAN. Lots mimicked the ocean part kind of. I shall do all that in the future. All I missed was ocean swimming (and hormonal/dutch/etc tests).
 

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I'll try I did that before pfs but with low body temp it's not easy I can't even swim anymore these two diseases changed my body composition so much that I struggle to float, swimming is supposed to be fun but with over fatigued muscles it's not the same.
 
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Lyme takes your manganese and induces arginase by producing arginase. This causes arginine to go into urea and immune system deactivation, this is how it survives.
Are you saying I must avoid manganese or I'm feeding the lyme? I have a once a day multi-mineral without manganese but most of them have 10mg