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Haven't quite felt as good as I did after last cycle yet, I have a moments of that good feeling.
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Haven't quite felt as good as I did after last cycle yet, I have a moments of that good feeling.
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Update:
Today marks three weeks since I finished my last round of TEI cycling. Still waiting for that snapback feeling I had from my last cycle.
Four days ago I woke up in the morning feeling completely cured. In the early morning, I usually dream that I am with a girl and that we try to have sex but I can't get hard. That morning I was fully hard while I slept and in the dream I was able to bang her just like pre PFS! I then woke up in a great mode and had extremely high libido and great mood all day. That day I felt completely cured for the first time ever. Unfortunately, that feeling past and I've dropped below baseline, but it gives me hope that things are moving in the right direction. I must be patient. Since Tei gave me the same recommendations, I will start my next cycle soon.
Today marks three weeks since I finished my last round of TEI cycling. Still waiting for that snapback feeling I had from my last cycle.
Four days ago I woke up in the morning feeling completely cured. In the early morning, I usually dream that I am with a girl and that we try to have sex but I can't get hard. That morning I was fully hard while I slept and in the dream I was able to bang her just like pre PFS! I then woke up in a great mode and had extremely high libido and great mood all day. That day I felt completely cured for the first time ever. Unfortunately, that feeling past and I've dropped below baseline, but it gives me hope that things are moving in the right direction. I must be patient. Since Tei gave me the same recommendations, I will start my next cycle soon.
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I notice even after quitting TEI I feel like there are things changing in my body. I did not have an instant-snapback. But I feel closer to myself in personality and way of thinking. This also means more aware of my reality - this can sometimes be depressing but it is good to be aware of it than living in fantasy land.
For me it seems slower change but definitely big difference between how I was before TEI.
I would just give it 6 months at least.
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I've been feeling interesting lately... Ive had this good feeling of well-being. I feel happy even when something is making me anxious or upset. I kinda just say 'well atleast I'm happy'. My focus is kinda off though. Kinda sat around and did nothing the past three hours but all good thoughts. Not super motivated to do much, but feeling good. It's a weird feeling but I'm happy so I'll take it.
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That's great to hear. I went through the same thing, multiple times. Our anxiety levels were/ are so high from pfs when they start to fall from tei it feels great. It will level out a little bit once your body gets use to it but it will keep getting better after or on each cycle.
Sometimes I feel like a zen master. As cool as as cucumber lol. Its a great feeling. Let yourself enjoy it.
You will realize that our anxiety isn't from worring about pfs but from the imbalance caused by pfs.
Are you back on tei?
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I'm going back on TEI sometime next week. Still feeling like my body needs to level out more. Like I said, I'm feeling good, but Im definitely feeling weird if you know what I mean. I'm assuming after that day I felt cured last week, my body tried to react by leveling itself out and now I'm feeling different. So I think something may happen in the next few days. Otherwise, I'm not feeling as good as I was after the last cycle, but that one day of libido has given me so much hope. It showed me that nothing is permanently messed up and that very soon things will be working again.
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I think when you start TEI your body gets nutrients to start healing. Could be that even now you stopped TEI supps that your body is still healing things and changing. I noticed the same thing. Now off it I still notice small changes. Positive and negative. Just got to ride it.
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Quick update:
TEI has helped me get rid of PFS mental side and some anxiety issues that I had before. This is great and feels good. However, aside from that one crazy day of libido, I feel a bit worse sexually.
Sometimes libido is getting a bit better but EQ is definitely not there. I might be jerking off a bit more but I don't have that feeling where I want to hook up with a girl. That one day of libido all I could think about sex. It was nice to know that I can one day return to having that feeling, and that day might be sooner than I think. While things are not so great sexually, I keep having this feeling that something good is coming. I sent a new sample in for a hair test as it turns out my last one was tainted and I was given generic suggestions.
Will start my next round in a few days for a month then wait until my new suggestions come and start those.
TEI has helped me get rid of PFS mental side and some anxiety issues that I had before. This is great and feels good. However, aside from that one crazy day of libido, I feel a bit worse sexually.
Sometimes libido is getting a bit better but EQ is definitely not there. I might be jerking off a bit more but I don't have that feeling where I want to hook up with a girl. That one day of libido all I could think about sex. It was nice to know that I can one day return to having that feeling, and that day might be sooner than I think. While things are not so great sexually, I keep having this feeling that something good is coming. I sent a new sample in for a hair test as it turns out my last one was tainted and I was given generic suggestions.
Will start my next round in a few days for a month then wait until my new suggestions come and start those.
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I get that feeling sometimes like a cured guy that can’t resist not only thoughts of sex but the brain to dick connection is so high it’s almost too much. Really has only happened during fasts thus far to that degree.
It’s definitely out there for both of us. We just gotta continue to heal and we’ll get there.
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Biggest thing I notice is that mood and libido are best when I am hungry or haven't eaten yet that day. Usually don't feel as good after eating and after a big meal with lots of bread I can feel really bad, takes an hour or so to feel normal again.
Reading over my last post I realize it seems kind of negative. Just want to reiterate that I feel great!
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How do you start these rounds? you do them for 1 months or something? it looks like nothing is changing yet in your body chemistry, you need to take full strength supps and take if for 3 months, then retest , then new cycle.
but you take it for a little bit and then come off. and then take it again.
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Once I receive the next results, no matter if they are different of the same. I will take for three months straight.
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Alright fellas... Retest results finally came in.
These make much more sense, as I have been advised to take a whole new set of minerals instead of the same three ones from the previous test. I will order them and begin my cycle soon. Probably not going to update for awhile, will be out living.
Cheers,
These make much more sense, as I have been advised to take a whole new set of minerals instead of the same three ones from the previous test. I will order them and begin my cycle soon. Probably not going to update for awhile, will be out living.
Cheers,
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One thing I really hope TEI fixes is my adrenal system. I play basketball Thursday nights and feel great however I always wake up feeling horribly anxious and depressed. I does wear off after a few hours, but not ideal.
Hi Helen, thank you so much for providing all the information you have. I really appreciate all the hard work you’ve put into it.
One question I have if you don’t mind a quick answer would be do you think doing TEI while on TRT is a good idea. I have a job where I have to be high functioning and I just can’t afford the initial downtrend of TEI without TRT.
Would love to hear your feedback, thanks.
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No'es pretty much. TEI alone will help and could serve as PCT. ---TEI, water fasting, *consistency*
helped mental /executive / cognitive functioning far more than hormones (of 5 types) in my case.
---i.e. these major detoxes eclipsed ru, ella, randro, etc in terms of "ability to function at work or school" (and in life in general).
Hormonal implications of Minerals is one reason behind TEI or HTMA.
---mental speed tests took a severe hit in PFS. back to normal after fasting. months later, higher or same... I doubt skipping that and just going to 4andro/randro or TRT would increase it consistently.
i mean I scored test 98-100/100 with no coffee. or on dex. or just fasting with nothing. 4am 4pm 2pm etc.
-WHEREAS pre fasting/ too lobotomized to even load up a computer. Could not type in my password let alone get it fixed. Let alone go to a doctor for TRT.
IF I just went to trt... not only would it be up and down (overall pfs / health) but executive functioning, likely would be inconsistent as well.
You want permanent gains not "needing" to have something to exist/get through it. I know it's tough.
--I say this because I doubt I'd have great results on randro/4andro without cleansing first. Maybe I would, but I doubt it.... like better gains in 6mo than like 3 yrs of training.
tho I did fine tune training the last several years and in 2016 got better results in a few months than years also...
----maybe if really clean one thing won't hurt if spaced out. but that's recommended against. --I wasn't perfect the whole time, but tests were CLEAN-ish for months in my case. I'll try 90d with nothing for cycle 2. I never took anything consistently. But for instance had coffee more than zero times, etc. --strive for better, not perfect.
---i think hormonal implications worst offender for messing up TEI..... ---> i went without breathing meds (inhalers), you can go without TRT. -TEI may = pct too from TRT.
---In a sense, TEI will be your TRT and much much more. And your functioning will go up.
--I doubt TRT increases cognitive functioning all day everyday, probably it is hit and miss.
--at least from the Joe Rogan Experience, TRT doctor who treats PFS, and was speaking about TBI's (Traumatic Brain Injuries) and using TRT.
---and countless things I read online on PFS.
--also that guy, Dr. Chrisler's patients. and Propecia help and all that stuff.
helped mental /executive / cognitive functioning far more than hormones (of 5 types) in my case.
---i.e. these major detoxes eclipsed ru, ella, randro, etc in terms of "ability to function at work or school" (and in life in general).
Hormonal implications of Minerals is one reason behind TEI or HTMA.
---mental speed tests took a severe hit in PFS. back to normal after fasting. months later, higher or same... I doubt skipping that and just going to 4andro/randro or TRT would increase it consistently.
i mean I scored test 98-100/100 with no coffee. or on dex. or just fasting with nothing. 4am 4pm 2pm etc.
-WHEREAS pre fasting/ too lobotomized to even load up a computer. Could not type in my password let alone get it fixed. Let alone go to a doctor for TRT.
IF I just went to trt... not only would it be up and down (overall pfs / health) but executive functioning, likely would be inconsistent as well.
You want permanent gains not "needing" to have something to exist/get through it. I know it's tough.
--I say this because I doubt I'd have great results on randro/4andro without cleansing first. Maybe I would, but I doubt it.... like better gains in 6mo than like 3 yrs of training.
tho I did fine tune training the last several years and in 2016 got better results in a few months than years also...
----maybe if really clean one thing won't hurt if spaced out. but that's recommended against. --I wasn't perfect the whole time, but tests were CLEAN-ish for months in my case. I'll try 90d with nothing for cycle 2. I never took anything consistently. But for instance had coffee more than zero times, etc. --strive for better, not perfect.
---i think hormonal implications worst offender for messing up TEI..... ---> i went without breathing meds (inhalers), you can go without TRT. -TEI may = pct too from TRT.
---In a sense, TEI will be your TRT and much much more. And your functioning will go up.
--I doubt TRT increases cognitive functioning all day everyday, probably it is hit and miss.
--at least from the Joe Rogan Experience, TRT doctor who treats PFS, and was speaking about TBI's (Traumatic Brain Injuries) and using TRT.
---and countless things I read online on PFS.
--also that guy, Dr. Chrisler's patients. and Propecia help and all that stuff.
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I'm not Helen but the answer is no. What you could do is plan a 2 week vacation when your testosterone hits ZERO.
Personally I had no problem coming off without PCT. I took a week off, planned it when my testosterone was zero. After that maybe 2-3 weeks of low energy. Then back to normal energy. 6-8 weeks after quitting you can jump on TEI in my opinion.
Thanks for the response, what is the reason that TRT would interfere with the TEI? I remember a post from Helen but can’t find it that says doing TEI and TRT at the same time could improve the receptors quicker
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Hormones influence minerals and vice versa. TEI means to balance everything. When you are injecting testosterone you will influence minerals as long as you are on it. No way to get balanced that way.
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Right, my goal would be to fix hormone receptors with TEI while having optimal testosterone levels and then PCT once hormone receptors are fixed from TEI and because of that be more receptive to PCT so hormones would stay at relatively the same levels