How much has ARL/TEI helped you?

[Admiral]

Lots of people are currently on a TEI or an ARL protocol. Would be nice if we could get some sort of quick survey how and how much mineral balancing has helped you.

• Please note that I am only aiming at PFS here, so those who used Saw Palmetto, or are PSSD, etc. should not vote. You can ofcourse mention something in the thread itself.
• You follow their diet recommendation plan and use all their recommended supplements.
• You need to be in cycle 2 or more.
• You may check multiple boxes.

 

[TubZy]

I think maybe adding a time slot of how long you have been on would be good too

 

[Admiral]

Getting a bit too complicated to work that in the poll, but every voter could share the duration they are on these cycles, yes.

Myself I am half way in my 4th (3xARL, 1xTEI).

 

[wuf]

Getting a bit too complicated to work that in the poll, but every voter could share the duration they are on these cycles, yes.

Myself I am half way in my 4th (3xARL, 1xTEI).

How many months?
I think it is important to share the rounds and the time staying on it since not everybody completed all the entire rounds and stopped at one point.

 

[TubZy]

Getting a bit too complicated to work that in the poll, but every voter could share the duration they are on these cycles, yes.

Myself I am half way in my 4th (3xARL, 1xTEI).

Agreed, since first month symptoms on can be completely different 3-4 months can be misleading...

 

[RebelWithACause]

I have seen following improvements after being OFF the supplements - FIRST CYCLE:

- Better libido from 0-10/100 to 30/100, this was after 2-3 weeks OFF TEI. In the first week I still felt like I was on the TEI supplements. Second week better. Third week I noticed it well. I did not expect it that late anymore. For a while I thought it did nothing. Then in the third week I noticed the change. I wanted to have sex again including motivation to want to meet girls. Not high by any means. But it was there.

So it can take a while. Some people feel better after 5 days for me I still felt like my body was doing something/changing 1-2 weeks after I quit the supplements.

- Mental stability better - less whiney and emotional/anxious -> this is not 100% fixed yet but I do not get depressed as much anymore. For a while I got suicidal thoughts/woe is me thoughts a lot and it was hard to change my mental state. Still had that off the supplements but LESS frequent.

- Better posture (walk straight, feel strong), body feels strong and solid when I walk around. This is still good even while on this second cycle.

Overall felt strong mentally and physically after being off for 3 weeks. Calmer in the mind and focussed on the goals in my life. Not 100% by any means but a big increase in quality of life.

Still had some brainfog being off the supplements on certain days. Especially as the day went on. It seemed TEI triggered something.

Now I am back on the supplements and feel bad again. For some guys they seem to feel better on the supplements. You have to push through a lot of bad feelings/days. Like said in the poll "ups and downs".

This is the big thing with TEI imo. You feel better OFF all supplements. Not taking anything. Not any special food, etc.

The first results I got have gotten me motivated to keep going.

I hope to get even better results after this second cycle.

 

[MNK99]

Pretty good. But runs out/ costs a lot. need retesting... need to wait a bit. I've restocked nearly all except some more tei which requires a test. I have anavar, pct, choline, soon add stuff, inhalers, etc up the ass. Tons. Choline tons too. So I have all things if i need them 6months or so. I am preoccupied with supply.

I don't take half of these but I will have them just in case. I will buy more man wax and just got protein. will buy more enzymes rite now. just got more HCl .
For when I need them.

BUT to maybe cure asthma, insomnia, mood disorder (or parts of the scatteredness around ADHD/mood dx), I will take tei. Also, the PFS stuff. Time is of the essence, and I'm at a place I can try other things. Soon, all easier for a very key reason.

--Mood Stability -- way better. Day 1.
-Insomnia - way better. - Day 1.
--Asthma Control way better.
-Sexual health (I.e. because of PFS and probably other reasons) : maybe 40% to 60% -70% at times. Unlike Mood, Insomnia -- this may not have improved on DAY 1.
-a couple sides that are troubling it helped like 1 of them 1/3 or 1/2... but one still bothers me but goes up and down a bit. HENCE, on VAR. Also because fuck it, lets get really really ripped. Other stuff too I want from that.
-Digestion: Kind of troublesome on it at times. Spacing doses 10-14hrs helped. Afterwards much like fasting at least 1 month or 2 pretty good 8.5-9/10. But not everyday.
---I mean AFTER.
-Mood and asthma were like 8-9/10 and after TEI like 8/10. Mood you notice quickly asthma is different than that and less of an issue really, outside of emergencies.
--LONG RUN : will use TEI. Alongside a couple other things at times, even if PFS totally cured. Because non scattered thinking, and mood, asthma controlled --> life's easier.

-Fitness/general health : Muscle pumps returned. Also more wakeful normal. So not tired as hell fatigued like PFS initially and many mo after.
-ALSO: fit, seem fine, sometimes bloated but clearly the supps, and out of system 6-10hrs look lean still. FOR sure less reps were possible, however I was probably catabolic, may still be a bit i don't think so tho.
-So it is great to continue, only veered because of some other issues. but for mood lability alone, and dealing with others, tei makes things easier.
-the thing is i can buy all my supps, and stuff for the cost of like 3mo TEI... and have a month or more to spare. Some more money, ill have both again.
-actually have a lot more tei, it's just for test 1... so the recommended supps may change quite a lot.

 

[jinstewart]

If doing TEI, is there anything to take from the electrolytes protocol too? Or do you JUST do TEI supps, eat TEI diet and that's literally it aside from water?

EDIT - already been answered as I've found. Yes, that's what you'd do: https://hackstasis.com/threads/finasteride-pfs-mechanism-detailed.636/page-11#post-19380

 

[Admiral]

I see I never posted my experiences with ARL/TEI. Also a good way to bump this thread and get some more votes in..

Mineral balancing has not improved my main symptoms (EQ, PE, ejaculation force, morning wood, sperm volume, stomach bloating, abdominal fat, muscle wastage, bone-collagen and connective tissue loss, concentration), but some minor ones. Most of these aren't consistent, but enough for me to notice:

• I always got a bit fatigued at work around 3PM. Used to yawn constantly when I was sitting still and listening to others. Maybe over 20 times an hour. Insane. Especially during meetings. I rarely do now. I think energy, while never really a big concern, has picked up.
• Always had very dry foreskin. Mostly due to candida surrounding that area. Never had smegma because of it. Now it's more wet and I have that gross, albeit healthy smegma again. Could also be because of more fats in the diet, as I picked that up being a fast oxidizer.
• I used to shit once every two days. Now I shit twice every day.
• Nocturnal erections, albeit not constant or those I could knock out infants with, are more present.
• I have spurts I can actually talk and make full sentences again. Witty sometimes even. This comes and goes, though.
• I used to blush whenever I had to speak in public. Even in a small group of 3 or 4 this happened and I never knew why. It's much less now, though when I am aware of it it creeps back in.
• I used to have chronic prostatitis. Likely fungal from the systematic candida. Somehow it got worse as I worked out more. I can still feel my prostate tingling sometimes, but it's never inflamed anymore. Could also be because I stopped working out.
• Allergies have become less, though it's a bit inconsistent and depends on the cycle. I can feel asthma coming back when I do cardio in a non-ventilated place.

 

[esp90]

I see I never posted my experiences with ARL/TEI. Also a good way to bump this thread and get some more votes in..

Mineral balancing has not improved my main symptoms (EQ, PE, ejaculation force, morning wood, sperm volume, stomach bloating, abdominal fat, muscle wastage, bone-collagen and connective tissue loss, concentration), but some minor ones. Most of these aren't consistent, but enough for me to notice:

• I always got a bit fatigued at work around 3PM. Used to yawn constantly when I was sitting still and listening to others. Maybe over 20 times an hour. Insane. Especially during meetings. I rarely do now. I think energy, while never really a big concern, has picked up.
• Always had very dry foreskin. Mostly due to candida surrounding that area. Never had smegma because of it. Now it's more wet and I have that gross, albeit healthy smegma again. Could also be because of more fats in the diet, as I picked that up being a fast oxidizer.
• I used to shit once every two days. Now I shit twice every day.
• Nocturnal erections, albeit not constant or those I could knock out infants with, are more present.
• I have spurts I can actually talk and make full sentences again. Witty sometimes even. This comes and goes, though.
• I used to blush whenever I had to speak in public. Even in a small group of 3 or 4 this happened and I never knew why. It's much less now, though when I am aware of it it creeps back in.
• I used to have chronic prostatitis. Likely fungal from the systematic candida. Somehow it got worse as I worked out more. I can still feel my prostate tingling sometimes, but it's never inflamed anymore. Could also be because I stopped working out.
• Allergies have become less, though it's a bit inconsistent and depends on the cycle. I can feel asthma coming back when I do cardio in a non-ventilated place.

Damn...and you've been doing this for almost a year right?...makes me lose hope in NB..lol

 

[Admiral]

Well for 9 months. My last test was skewed, so I jump back on a new cycle shortly.

It’s also a mental ride, though.

@MNK99: you’re near recovered on TEI?

 

[Helen]

@Admiral
Your first cycle might have been ok. but then all WRONG.


as I explained to you. ( first cycle was probably correct)

then you took hydrogen, they gave you wrong supps.

then you go with pubic hair, wrong supps again.


We don;t know if those supplements were right or wrong. I can not be sure.

but I know if instead of zinc they would keep giving you copper, your progesterone will be rising.



you have absolutely ZERO hormones.


please retest your hair after being off everything. head hair and lets see your oxidation rate.

if you are not planning to do this.



then try to raise your hormones. testosterone is raised with catabolic axis, with zinc magnesium, potassium thyroid. B vitamins


copper is anabolic axis, and usually raises progesterone.

 

[MNK99]

ADmiral, I only did one cycle. I need to do more. Instead of say being quite near cured, I am a bit better. If my eye issue goes away and sensitivity is better and morning wood is better. Then I'd be cured. EVEN then, I'd need tei longer to cure a lot of other shyt. Like asthma, and insomnia. --So not quite cured. BUT still frustrating to me is not completely fixed vision (sure it works and it isn't lagging and I can live without glasses but most would wear glasses all the time for my current vision). And also not fixed collagen/eye area as much. I think 6-12mo more needed. And sometimes still messed up digestion. not completely cured, optimistic will be in future or at least most of it Also optimistic can put the thought of mood medication out of my mind as I did for 8 years or so, but this time be happier and more consistent (while taking tei and after cycles).

So I'm pretty good. But was good before TEI 1. AND my strongest gains weren't even PFS. But you could say PFS came a long way, and other things were fine but not really super improved, so maybe it rose those things' baseline. But again "Pfs" is much worse than say asthma.
But to be happy need not only physical health and such things as PFS gone or at least managed or barely a concern. BUT also, need mental health / emotional stability.
So I quite like TEI. But not claiming one cycle cured me.

-While that "all sounds fine enough" , it is harder than taking nothing work wise. For instance, planned back up plans, found places to move to, types of work, where I want to be in a few days because adhd was good. WHILE on it, it's probably worse. ALSO while on it, getting ready often takes longer because my stomach is worse too.
-AND it is not like prohormones for me where I got stronger like every week. (but of course that isn't sustainable).

-It's like this: Fasting was and is a great tool. Did it cure pfs (as in 100% of symptoms for me)? No. But it did 100% cure a ton of symptoms. TEI is like that but there is probably less to gain however, it still requires continuous discipline. If I fuck off, I don't crash. HOWEVER, I like being disciplined.
- SO I still think TEI is up there or close ish to fasting. AND I think that if I didn't want to continue that, I'd use more randro, 4andro, bathmate, and maybe live with 1 symptom or so, or WAIT and spend more time with health habits and that will go, or get it fixed by other means. --maybe 2 symptoms. one fixed in other ways. One lived with (like less acute vision, using glasses, waiting till vision changes can be 100% reversed).
--_Break was due to wanting to try anavar. DID I need to? Probably not. Glad I did? Sure.

-Was Fasting a great idea ? Yes, 10/10. TEI sure, 8 or higher out of 10. IS Var? Definitely not 10/10. But pretty good. BUT nothing is also pretty good. SO the other two provided far better gains in a sense. Tho it does help sexual symptoms. BUT it could also crash or have crashed me. Which is most careless? Var in my case. Maybe. IDK.

 

[Snow1]

ARL 8 months, no gaps or stops in between hair tests. Sending my hair in for my 4th hair test next week.

Adrenal Fatigue and Hypothyroid improved over year months so feel a little more calm and relaxed. Still no improvements yet on ED/sensitivity/PE but still hopeful.

A lot of up and downs, but been in and out of 4 lows during the program which would explain that and also dumping copper which can be a rough ride.

I’d love to stop for a month to see if I get any snap back but I’m on a roll and don’t want to stop until my future hair tests indicate I have rebuilt my adrenals and thyroid is back to normal.

 

[Goose12]

I see I never posted my experiences with ARL/TEI. Also a good way to bump this thread and get some more votes in..

Mineral balancing has not improved my main symptoms (EQ, PE, ejaculation force, morning wood, sperm volume, stomach bloating, abdominal fat, muscle wastage, bone-collagen and connective tissue loss, concentration), but some minor ones. Most of these aren't consistent, but enough for me to notice:

• I always got a bit fatigued at work around 3PM. Used to yawn constantly when I was sitting still and listening to others. Maybe over 20 times an hour. Insane. Especially during meetings. I rarely do now. I think energy, while never really a big concern, has picked up.
• Always had very dry foreskin. Mostly due to candida surrounding that area. Never had smegma because of it. Now it's more wet and I have that gross, albeit healthy smegma again. Could also be because of more fats in the diet, as I picked that up being a fast oxidizer.
• I used to shit once every two days. Now I shit twice every day.
• Nocturnal erections, albeit not constant or those I could knock out infants with, are more present.
• I have spurts I can actually talk and make full sentences again. Witty sometimes even. This comes and goes, though.
• I used to blush whenever I had to speak in public. Even in a small group of 3 or 4 this happened and I never knew why. It's much less now, though when I am aware of it it creeps back in.
• I used to have chronic prostatitis. Likely fungal from the systematic candida. Somehow it got worse as I worked out more. I can still feel my prostate tingling sometimes, but it's never inflamed anymore. Could also be because I stopped working out.
• Allergies have become less, though it's a bit inconsistent and depends on the cycle. I can feel asthma coming back when I do cardio in a non-ventilated place.

Looks like some descent improvements to me after years of nothing. Sexual improvements are the last thing to come, and we are all worse than we realize.

 

[Goose12]

ARL 8 months, no gaps or stops in between hair tests. Sending my hair in for my 4th hair test next week.

Adrenal Fatigue and Hypothyroid improved over year months so feel a little more calm and relaxed. Still no improvements yet on ED/sensitivity/PE but still hopeful.

A lot of up and downs, but been in and out of 4 lows during the program which would explain that and also dumping copper which can be a rough ride.

I’d love to stop for a month to see if I get any snap back but I’m on a roll and don’t want to stop until my future hair tests indicate I have rebuilt my adrenals and thyroid is back to normal.

The youtube channel deep healing that you mentioned in one of your post is great. Has a lot of great info and testimonials.

Everyone on mineral balancing should watch this one

 

[Snow1]

Yea it’s great isn’t it, this and the Dr Larry Wilson website and larrys audio tapes on YouTube is what has kept me motivated to stick with ARL and all its protocols. For those doing arl I highly recommend having a good practioner that can guide you
Through the process so you don’t get side tracked or give up because you feel worse or don’t see improvements straight away. Good things take time.

 

[brix]

Has anyone noticed changes in body composition from TEI? Hoping my catabolism stops after a month or so on the program.

 

[RebelWithACause]

Has anyone noticed changes in body composition from TEI? Hoping my catabolism stops after a month or so on the program.

First cycle yes people even commented on the gains. Now I think I am in a more catabolic state.

 

[Astral kid]

I haven't been able to start any programs yet but after reading around on this forum for a couple months now I can't seem to decide if ARL or TEI is actually worth doing. Is it a cure at all? Can anyone actually say they are cured from these programs? Everyone still seems to have some sort of problem , sexual or non sexual. I was hopeful at first but I'm starting to think its all some marketing scam as with everything else on the Internet.