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Interesting. I have high T and high dht and slow oxidizer. I’m not over wt but gained about 10lbs with psf not muscle. I don’t think I have significant mental sides but ED and decrease libido are significant. So far Fin trial is encouraging.

BTW I list the sweating symptom because it is so crazy that PFS makes you (for me) not sweat! Under arm sweat. No B.O.! WTH. Not that I even wanted to sweat but the fact that it doesn't happens seems huge. And this would be a more objective symptom to track. And when you are sweating, it's...

Might be helpful to list your current regimen/protocol and if you are benefiting. AND Protocols or stuff you have tried before that helped or didn't help or possibly made you worse AND your testosterone and DHT level.

Good day today. I can totally feel a more normalish libido. Today just thinking about my wife I was getting an erection. This has been such a rare thing since the crash. I am very hopeful but way too early to get too excited about this. Totally sweating today. I am 2 days post Fin dose...

Update. On Monday I took like 1/10-20th est tab of propecia. That was at day 5. My libido was starting to improve before I took it. For example my wife was wearing a low cut tank top and just looking at her I felt like I was getting excited. She’s beautiful and has a perfect body and it’s...

I’m on the low dose fin.

Update: Took est 1/4 tab propecia last Wednesday. I I initially noticed more energy. This is like a slight amphetamine type feeling. This continues but maybe dropped off s little. I’ve lost about 7 lbs. And the past couple days I’ve been eating more calories to test if this is real and I...

Update: last week I took two very low dose ( one drop) of avodart. My thinking was to very slowly and carefully decrease Dht. I was very intrigued with the current discussion so I decided to change to propecia for a few reasons. Avodart has such a long half life, if u overshoot it will take...

Can you explain that again? How much did you take?. How did you feel? How long have you been doing this? I’m very interested because I just started something similar. Last week, Monday I took one drop of avodart ( 12 drops in one cap) so extremely low dose. I felt a little boost, sweating ...

I understand. Thanks! It's very complicated and a lot of processes need to be working correctly. I feel because I am frustrated, making a good decision is difficult. Do you still think very low dose Avodart is a good option?? It's like I just took one drop...it's like nothing and I am...

My issue is NO. Viagra/ Cialis has no effects at all... None. I maybe the NO protocol is a better option. By the way, Ella/ RU will cure that for several days, sometimes longer. I thought I read antiprogestins and up regulate AR. Could this be how it works?

Right, I didn't read that correctly. But are you making a point that Avodart and Fin even low dose is not a good idea because NADPH producing enzymes could get Upregulated?

Okay I started the Avodart protocal. I want to proceed very cautiously. I calculated there are 12 drop of liquid in a gel cap when puncturing with small paper clip. I will start with one drop every other day so will average around 1/4 cap per week. By the way I crashed on it but it was...

Tallglass, did you try/ take one avodart tablet a while ago?? Didn't you say it caused a certain problems but you actually had high libido?? I have been discussing with Helen starting a very low dose Avodart protocol with like maybe one drop of the gel cap like once or twice a week. NADPH...

I know. It's a big step so my posts are to some extent trying to convince myself! Thanks for your help too! I have checked my estradiol level and it's mid range. Does that change your mind regarding the estrogen part? Do those who try Fin, stay on it? Do you think Avodart is less risky for...

By the way, I started Ginko18 days ago and no real change in libido ( by far my biggest complaint!) but I do feel more calm. This is a real subjective symptoms but I do believe it has helped. My thought is to stay on Ginko as I see no significant down side and possible upside. Maybe staying...

More thoughts: People have occasionally tried to restart Fin and have had horrible results. I defer to Helen's more in depth understanding and research in this area, but what if restarting Avodart could help reset everything???? Others have tried this and most have felt worse and then...

Okay, thanks!

I tried dhea 1.5 years ago and maybe felt slightly better for very short time. You don’t think taking a very low dose avodart could help? I mean like one drop of the capsule once a week. This would be to try to decrease dht slowly.

Thoughts regarding PFS: Others may have stated similar thoughts but here is my current thoughts: PFS is a puzzle. Why do some not have any issue but others suffer significant SE and this is resistant to normalize or improvement after stopping the medication??? I personally used Avodart for...