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First, try not to worry. I would not take any hormone type stuff when on the ru/Ella progesterone regimen. I’m not exactly sure what happened but I know pine pollen never helped any sexual side w me and prob made it worse. I think maybe this protocol has increased prolactin and the additional...

Follow up on pine pollen. These are my thoughts: I took this before. I’ve taken Andro hard months ago. Both make you feel stronger even artificially better but the Andro hard faded. The pine pollen was not dramatic but I felt good. But sexual side effects did not improve and possibly a little...

Update. I’m still headed toward recovery. Feeling strong. Strong morning wood almost every morning. ED at maybe 85%. Still don’t have pre pfs libido/ drive but I DO have libido. Not on anything right now.

I know what mean. Something is out of balance w pine pollen for you ( and prob all of us) but not sure what it is. But remember I think our goal is to try to manipulate the system back to normal and not to take something to feel better, if you know what I mean. Dopamine can interfere w sleep...

Like a good thing?? Yes I am sweating more normally now. Weird not to sweat.

Completely different. Parkinson’s Disease pts are using much higher dosing and for longer periods. 1/2 caber ( wouldn’t use whole tab) every other week should be of no consequence imo.

Right... Definitely would take dopamine agonist when taking Ella. Suspect that could be the reason there was not a better response. Might want to take dose now. Suspect prolactin could still be elevated from Ella. IMO..

What’s prami?

I’d stay off Ella for several days, 5-6 and then start progesterone. Previously I used like 1-3 days but no worries. You can always do shorter course next time. The more I think about this issue, lower doses and shorter duration stuff and then waiting for bounce back is the way to go. IMO.

Do you mean Ella? I agree that you probably only want short low dose cycle w Ella. Then wait several days. I can totally feel the bounce back at day3-5. Have you considered restarting progesterone after? So like after the 5th - 6 th day you can consider restating progesterone for 7-14 days...

Who else is/has followed progesterone RU/Ella protocol??? Any updates?

Update: I continue to feel like I’m improving. The set back 10 days ago has completely resolved.

Norco. I think I over reacted with taking too much Caber.

Update: 9 days ago I had to take a pain pill. I had to do this two months ago and I felt like my symptoms worsened bc spike in Prolactin. So I took 2 doses of Caber 1/2 tab. I think this was too much. I am thinking that I may be trying to hard with controlling Prolactin. What I mean is...

I use caber but since we don’t know how everything works here, good to be cautious. You could try like a quarter tab once and see how it goes. You’ll only really need prolactin control with Ru and less so w Ella and prob don’t need to use caber w progesterone. May be consider L dopa.

You have to have patience with this. All though you had no improvement w Ella it still may have helped. What I mean is you are now on s regimen that has shown to help and there’s so much out there that doesn’t. I agree with starting progesterone and IMO use low dose. 2-5mg. Dont start this...

Update: I am losing track how long ago I stopped everything. Happy to say I think I continue to improve but will not consider saying recovery until 100% normal or that this sticks for a couple months. This morning awoke with very strong morning wood, the painful kind that doesn't go away for...

Good luck!

I didn't follow that part of the regimen in a strict fashion. Definitely when I was taking RU/ Ella I used Caber 1/2 tab every day vs every other day but thats for like 3 days and then the half life is 4-6 days( need to cover yourself until Rx out of your system) and then when on progesterone(...

I took 2-3 tabs a day. They are 500mg tabs.