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Thanks @Goose12 @bruschi11 @Jack17 for the advice and anyone else ive missed lol. Ive made a plan im gonna start a water fast from monday and try and do at least 3 days, ideally I want 10 - 14 as it seemed to work well for lot people here. Ill then start the ru/prog stuff. I absolutely dreading...

Take your mind off pfs for a while too always good.

Lol this springs to mind ... Hindenburg disaster - Wikipedia

Well I don't blame you if it crashed you again. To be fair I can get it up when the time comes but I don't have random boners like I did pre fin but I was 19 then. It hard for me to sometimes notice symptoms as I was on the stuff constantly for 8 years, I never got morning wood/random wood much...

@Goose12 would you jump on the herbs after, I have some from cd's protocol?

Okay ill give it a go! Thanks

Hello Lads, I've been lurking around here now for a couple of months, commenting on a few threads and messaging a couple of people, Tubzy & MNK. Prior to that I lurked on Swole Source/Propeciahelp just trying to get a handle on this condition and understand what the fuck was going on. I...

@wuf probably a good sign it means you have enough stomach acid

Good lad barbaar, king babar would be proud lol. Seriously though those posts have probably helped most of us at one time or another, I know they did for me.

I have all the stuff need except for digestive enzymes, I was just waiting on weighing scales ( only had basic scales to 1g as lowest denomination). I only bought all the stuff Tubzy described as 'required' when the guys were doing the electrolyte trials. I'll give it a shot!

Better a idiot savant than just an idiot mate, look how well it turned out for Forest Gump lol.

Cheers lads ill give anything a shot to beat this pfs shit! Never give up boys and girls!

@MNK99 yeah I second that... I was never a genius but I was bright and now I feel like I'm retarded at times haha. Do ya reckon LDN is worth a shot? I'm not sure which option to try first, massive indecisiveness has also been a big symptom of this shit for me lol.

@raven I'm the same pal. Chronic head pressure and cognitive issues, I've read it could be anxiety related. Ella, Ru & androsterone seem to be the way forward for these sort or symptoms. For European suffers has anyone considered megadrol xt for androsterone, its a lot cheaper than r andro?

Have you found the gains you made on ella are sticking outside of having the flu? I hopefully getting some tomorrow to start a cycle.

Maybe a good sign mate, many have found they don't get sick (viruses etc) while in this state.

The low dose cycle sounds interesting as well. Has anyone tried the high dose cycle mentioned in protocol thread (the one in tubZy's sig), 100 - 200mg for a week?

Thanks for the advice Wuf. I'll start a log once I have the results.

Edit post 19/07/18 Prog protocol I would get topical progesterone and make sure it doesn't have any saw palmetto in it. Get Ella online. There are several references on this board. Consider taking (small dose) Ella 5mg or less for 3 days then wait 5 days ( until it's out of your system) and...

@HerrFisch I think he may be referring to the DHT scalp itch returning. For PFS's who aren't bothered about hair loss this is seen as a good sign. Or I could just be talking bullshit lol