36 eggs a day=steroid cycle?

SwaZ

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One of the best bodybuilders of all time, Vince Gironda recommend a diet to natural bodybuilders comprising of 36 fertile eggs a day(they had to be fertile so any store bought ones arent going to work).

He said it was like running a mild cycle of Dbol, and when you look at the steroid profile of eggs and calculate 36 eggs a day * 7 days a week you get 50 mg of testosterone a week just from eggs. You also get estrogen, progesterone and some other hormones.

Id like to know what are people's thoughts on this?
Any dangers to this? @Helen
 

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One of the best bodybuilders of all time, Vince Gironda recommend a diet to natural bodybuilders comprising of 36 fertile eggs a day(they had to be fertile so any store bought ones arent going to work).

He said it was like running a mild cycle of Dbol, and when you look at the steroid profile of eggs and calculate 36 eggs a day * 7 days a week you get 50 mg of testosterone a week just from eggs. You also get estrogen, progesterone and some other hormones.

Id like to know what are people's thoughts on this?
Any dangers to this? @Helen

Eggs are part of electrolytes protocol, for this reason.
 

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One of the best bodybuilders of all time, Vince Gironda recommend a diet to natural bodybuilders comprising of 36 fertile eggs a day(they had to be fertile so any store bought ones arent going to work).

He said it was like running a mild cycle of Dbol, and when you look at the steroid profile of eggs and calculate 36 eggs a day * 7 days a week you get 50 mg of testosterone a week just from eggs. You also get estrogen, progesterone and some other hormones.

Id like to know what are people's thoughts on this?
Any dangers to this? @Helen

I notice a mild anabolic type effect when I drink regular raw organic eggs that I don't get when I cook them (5-6 at a time). Prob from the cholesterol or hormones, choline, vitamins, amino acids etc.. 36 a day seems pretty intense lol.
 

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I’m currently researching colostrum as it’s pre-milk created in cow’s bloodstream that contains tons of growth factors, immune boosters and aminos. I’m specifically looking at its nerve benefits (I’ve used several rounds of igf1 for that exact factor) but it appears colostrum may have some goods. I’ll probably post a dedicated thread but wanted to point out it’d be my choice over such a quantity of eggs, if either contains the hormones in question. Again, not sure if it’ll help or if I’ll just get stomach issues
 

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I am taking like 5-15 egg whites a day. Maybe if I get a good connect, I will get organic eggs by the boatload. Sometimes I eat the yolks, I don't discriminate like that.
Glutathionionione and also: cholesterol, stronger. MYb my skinny neck will grow. Helps digestion, and keeps the lean gains, because I do not require "traditional food sources".

No actually they are ORGANIC but maybe "free farm, free run, chickens". May not be wild, emancipted chickens. NOT sure. 8-16 different types of eggs at the store.
gotta buy a hen... it's minus 45 and i can't raise a bird rite now. maybe in future.
 
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I’m currently researching colostrum as it’s pre-milk created in cow’s bloodstream that contains tons of growth factors, immune boosters and aminos. I’m specifically looking at its nerve benefits (I’ve used several rounds of igf1 for that exact factor) but it appears colostrum may have some goods. I’ll probably post a dedicated thread but wanted to point out it’d be my choice over such a quantity of eggs, if either contains the hormones in question. Again, not sure if it’ll help or if I’ll just get stomach issues

Joe, we used colostrum on POIS forum and it helps.

As I said to you. insulin and intranasal insulin should help. Colostrum increases 5AR like crazy. since it increases NADPH. same as insulin does. and colustrum is very high in insulin, and IGF-1. but actual insulin levels are very high also.

Nerves are protected by NADPH( which is glutathione reductase cofactor). Insulin starts up G6pD which makes NADPH

Finasteride BINDs NADPH , this is how it causes crashes, since if you bind NADPH< your glutathione reductase goes down, and your glutathione isn't working
and you basically get toxic with heavy metals in the brain. just like an autistic person.

And if you took fin for many years, lets say, you were living without glutathione for YEARS,. just like autistic person, this is why people can never restore to PRE fin. It is almost impossible without chelation therapy. ( this is why I had crazy chelation and glutathione support in electrolytes protocol)


In many PFS people we have closed sugar metabolism( insulin levels like in diabetes). since the body does not want to produce NADPH. since that will increase DHT. since NADPH is what 5AR works on

So basically if you take insulin intranasal insulin , colustrum etc. you will make more NADPH and thus more 5AR , more cortisol. more allopregnenolone

and the most importantly MORE Glutatathione.


SO colostrum should be of help for some cases.

In some cases it caused severe brain fog though. Like in Chi case. and other people on propecia help. I guess by tanking potassium since anything that increases NADPH, tanks potassium.

thus pyroluria treatment is zinc( which increases potassium ) b1, b6, sodium butyrate, magnesium


I did have very low insulin after FIN. like almost diabetic, so the body was not pushing sugar into the cell

the body did not want to produce NADPH or sugar metabolism

So I had to use potassium, which basically starts up insulin, and use b1 which increases NADPH. and this way, you increase your 5AR

this is how @Troy got better.
 
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Joe, we used colostrum on POIS forum and it helps.

As I said to you. insulin and intranasal insulin should help. Colostrum increases 5AR like crazy. since it increases NADPH. same as insulin does. and colustrum is very high in insulin, and IGF-1. but actual insulin levels are very high also.

Nerves are protected by NADPH( which is glutathione reductase cofactor). Insulin starts up G6pD which makes NADPH

Finasteride BINDs NADPH , this is how it causes crashes, since if you bind NADPH< your glutathione reductase goes down, and your glutathione isn't working
and you basically get toxic with heavy metals in the brain. just like an autistic person.

And if you took fin for many years, lets say, you were living without glutathione for YEARS,. just like autistic person, this is why people can never restore to PRE fin. It is almost impossible without chelation therapy. ( this is why I had crazy chelation and glutathione support in electrolytes protocol)


In many PFS people we have closed sugar metabolism( insulin levels like in diabetes). since the body does not want to produce NADPH. since that will increase DHT. since NADPH is what 5AR works on

So basically if you take insulin intranasal insulin , colustrum etc. you will make more NADPH and thus more 5AR , more cortisol. more allopregnenolone

and the most importantly MORE Glutatathione.


SO colostrum should be of help for some cases.

In some cases it caused severe brain fog though. Like in Chi case. and other people on propecia help. I guess by tanking potassium since anything that increases NADPH, tanks potassium.

thus pyroluria treatment is zinc( which increases potassium ) b1, b6, sodium butyrate, magnesium


I did have very low insulin after FIN. like almost diabetic, so the body was not pushing sugar into the cell

the body did not want to produce NADPH or sugar metabolism

So I had to use potassium, which basically starts up insulin, and use b1 which increases NADPH. and this way, you increase your 5AR

this is how @Troy got better.

So what if B1 makes you feel 10 times worse?
 

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just eat testicles man
on a real though brains are rediculously high in saturated steroids and cholesterol like 4-5 grams of cholesterol each 100 grams.
eggs is only 0,18 gram cholesterol per egg.
 

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just eat testicles man
on a real though brains are rediculously high in saturated steroids and cholesterol like 4-5 grams of cholesterol each 100 grams.
eggs is only 0,18 gram cholesterol per egg.

Dang lol, i might actually do this. Plus testicles have loads of taurine in them.
 

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Probably because you are already low on iron and you ran into low blood sugar issues. b1 is iron chelator.
Opposite, in hemachromatosis people which absorb too much iron 70% get diabetes2.

Hmm maybe. I dont know and dont really care anymore
 

Stud

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Dang lol, i might actually do this. Plus testicles have loads of taurine in them.
hey just remember bro, its not weird… cuz you got people drinking piss on this forum.
 

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I notice a mild anabolic type effect when I drink regular raw organic eggs that I don't get when I cook them (5-6 at a time). Prob from the cholesterol or hormones, choline, vitamins, amino acids etc.. 36 a day seems pretty intense lol.
Raw eggs offer so much more than cooked eggs. There are people healing from mycoplasma infections using up to 10 raw eggs a day.

My hair texture completely changed overnight. Thanks for the reminder to get back in my eggs!
 

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raw eggs for life. fix digestion immediately. Stay lean, satiated. fast 18-20hrs, have some raw eggs. some coffee (or decaf tea for more pure people).
some spinach, cacao, aminos, raw eggs, almond milk, sea salt --blended and drank. --boom. 300-700 cals. ripped.

-through some eggs in my coffee, accidentally a whole non de-shelled egg. Eggs overflew on to the counter. I subsequently removed the egg liquid + coffee from the counter, using a "wet paper towel". Then I dried it. Then I removed the yolks. And drank it. Spat some out.
 
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--gotta eat 36. eggs are kind of gross, probably easier to liquify all of em. i've done 12. 36 is really pushing it but if eggs are cheap in certain cities, it's easier.
--or for bird owners.
--on surface, this seems like way too many goddamned eggs. but if you own the means of production, it's easier.
-- 10-20 dollars a day X 365 this could be 7300 a yr. I think here more like 3000-6000 and in a bigger city i once was in... like 7000 a yr (chinatown) --> 13000 a yr (big stores)
-- I probably didn't go to the best grocery stores. BUT you need the actual birds. It's hard to do. I'm not gonna care for livestock / poultry. I may get some eggs from New Zealand or Oceana.
--I once ate 17 eggs but it was a challenge with some idiots. I guess I won. Not saying this is a dumb idea, just that they and I were dumb for such a stupid challenge.
 
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