Accutane Specifically thread- Accutane protocol? Any help appreciated 19 years old

[Willylong98]

Seeking help from you guys because some of you are much, much smarter than I am and I need help.

I am a post Accutane sufferer and have all PFS sides. Extreme loss of libido and pleasure in penis. After dealing with the condition for 4 months I started injecting myself with testosterone (although prior to using exogenous testosterone I had natural blood work twice for testosterone and I was very high, one of them above range while on Accutane, I️ was literally naturally test levels of 31 on a scale of 8-28) and used DHT derivative hormones like Masteron and Superdrol and some progestin hormones like MENT/Trestosolone(which improved my symptoms 100% more than any other hormone insane) and I was able to regain some sex drive and libido, although blowjobs weren’t as good like prior to this mess it’s not like I would crave one but sexual activity started to become fun again, I regained a libido and could get really turned on and horny just lack of pleasure/orgasm intensity)

Now Admitingly I abused. the living fuck out of these hormones and used stupidly high dosages. I️ have now been off of every hormone for 9 weeks and am battling crippling depression and absolutely no energy every day and lost the sexual benefits . as to be expected after going cold turkey off of hormones. I️ abused them as much as I️ needed to keep my sex drive high. I️ was very content with my sex drive on the hormones.

I️ am now off and feeling terrible but in all honesty I️ feel like steroids made a slight permanent reability in my sex drive like at first I️ was 0% but now I’m 20%(

Seeing as my test is probably crashing and my whole body is withdrawing from having such insanely high test and DHT levels for months to practically none there is no way I ha e recovered in these 9 weeks.
I hope I can recover my high test and I have this theory that by abusing the fuck out of testosterone and withdrawaling cold turkey and putting myself in a state of complete testosterone depletion that when I️ begin to soon take boosting test herbs, pct and such that i will regain sensitivity to testosterone and regain my sex drive. Maybe I needed to totally deplete myself and have my body used to that in order to let things set back to normal?

Would this make sense or am I just dumb?

Thanks you to anyone who helps. I am 19 and have been in this mess since 17 and refuse to live without a sex drive. I need to fix this
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[bruschi11]

Hey man,

I read a lot of your stuff on solvepfs and I am REALLY glad you're off the hormones and moved over to this site. You're going to get better learning here. I love the fact you are off hormones now and everyone here will agree with me- especially at your age.

Just start reading, learning, doing whatever you can to get yourself better from the info provided on this site. There are several protocols for pfs right now being experimented with to a certain degree of success. Diet and exercise important to maintain along with protocols.

So how do you feel beyond sexual now? Are you dealing with fatigue and chemical depression? Or are you more so mentally depressed you just don't have a sex drive?

 

[Canari]

If you are going to go on CDsnuts protocol, apart from exercise and diet, do not forget the stress reduction side! Stability of nerves is part of what allows a protocol to stick. Sex is what needs the best balance in us in terms of sympathetic and parasympathetic drive, as arousal is sympathetic but orgasm is parasympathetic.
You also need some support from relatives. How much of this do you get? You can also dedicate yourself as much as possible to others, by finding ways to inform and prevent. How great will it be if you make that some other guys do not take accutane or other stuffs?

When one has high level of any hormone, it can mean that the body is not sensitive enough to it, which means it has do do with receptors. This is including insuline as an example, as insuline insentivity is more well-known. I mean it works the same for all hormones, either too sensitive or not enough. This is the balance that has to be corrected.

 

[Willylong98]

Hi all. I have been reading through this forum and am learning a lot about healing and fixing my Post accutane Syndrome.

I developed all the sides in the book at age 16/17 from Accutaneand have been stuck in this state and have come very close to suicide

I am 19 years old and am wondering if anyone could recommended a protocol to follow to try to cure myself? I can’t afford a laptop or computer and am using my only source of internet which is my iPhone 5 which tends to crash and is hard to browse through the forum.

Through blood work we know that:
1) during Accutane crash I had high progesterone
2) i have high natural testosterone despite absolutely 0 sexual desire/pleasure
3) low cortisol all throughout the day from a saliva test

Really appreciate if someone could link me or recommend me a amino acid protocol to follow? Should I try RU?

I’ve been in contact with Dr Kevin Pezzi who used finasteraide to cure his Accutane sexual dysfunction but i want to try all methods before going down that route.

I really think this is progestin related because when i used 19nor progestin anabolic steroids this year to attempt to cure myself they really worked and made me feel back to normal (TREST/Ment)

 

[Willylong98]

@gbolduev if you wouldn’t mind giving me a minute of your time and giving me any advice. I’m not the smartest so have a hard time understanding the stuff you guys talk about. Please help Accutane ruined my life i never have energy,always terrible mood, brain fog, zero libido or sexual pleasure

 

[Helen]

I am trying the accutane with someone now. We will see how it works, and then I will post.

 

[B_D_Acc]

Hi all. I have been reading through this forum and am learning a lot about healing and fixing my Post accutane Syndrome.

I developed all the sides in the book at age 16/17 from Accutaneand have been stuck in this state and have come very close to suicide

I am 19 years old and am wondering if anyone could recommended a protocol to follow to try to cure myself? I can’t afford a laptop or computer and am using my only source of internet which is my iPhone 5 which tends to crash and is hard to browse through the forum.

Through blood work we know that:
1) during Accutane crash I had high progesterone
2) i have high natural testosterone despite absolutely 0 sexual desire/pleasure
3) low cortisol all throughout the day from a saliva test

Really appreciate if someone could link me or recommend me a amino acid protocol to follow? Should I try RU?

I’ve been in contact with Dr Kevin Pezzi who used finasteraide to cure his Accutane sexual dysfunction but i want to try all methods before going down that route.

I really think this is progestin related because when i used 19nor progestin anabolic steroids this year to attempt to cure myself they really worked and made me feel back to normal (TREST/Ment)

Which symptoms for you did Trestolone alleviate for you? Was it just the sexual symptoms or your energy and mood as well?

I had never heard of it before. From what I'm reading it's an ultra strong androgen, moderate progestin and aromatises, so some oestrogen too, so pretty hard to pinpoint exactly where the benefit is coming from. What dose were you on if you don't mind me asking?

Also, does anyone know how relative levels of androgens, oestrogens and progestins affect the relative levels/activity of each others receptors?

 

[Willylong98]

everything. I dont remember the dose though.

 

[Willylong98]

I have low cortisol problems from Accutane and all the other symptoms (libido,mental,depression)

My plan is the following:

Take RU for 14 days at 50mg
After two weeks off RU start to take :

• 250mg (or 500mg) histidine HCL
• 250mg (or 500mg) cysteine HCL

I will also began to rotate CD herbs after RU

does this sound like a good plan? Thanks!

 

[barbaar]

Have you had any tests done? If not do that first so you know what you're dealing with.

50mg ru for 14 days is quite a lot, for a long time. I haven't personally taken RU but I'm pretty sure the people who have will tell you this is a bad idea. @IHateFin

I'd just start with cdnuts (the entire protocol, not just herbs) until gbol figures out what to do for post accutane.

 

[IHateFin]

i agree. Ru at 50mg for that long is not a good idea as its too much and it will start to just agonize your prog receptors very quickly and carry far too much antiandrogenic activity at that point and you WILL run into prolactin issues due to this.

ru is showing best sucess with smaller cycles of 3 days at lower doses.
if you are looking to take it solely to block prog than the range of your dose should be 5 to 10mg as this has shown to be more than enough to obliterate it.
if you are wanting to activate HPA up-regulation from RU than 3 days at 50mg is plenty as it has 18 times the binding affinity to the cortisol receptor than cortisol. in fact according to a report i read one dose of 100mg is enough to show an increase of HPA through increase of ACTH to try and compinsate with cortisol not being able to activate the receptor due to the ru taking them up.
if you truely do have low cortisol (i say IF since the symptoms you have could be from a myriad of other issues from steroid suppression) than i would do a 24/7 saliva test to be sure and if you truely are low then 50mg of ru for 14days would be agood idea for the cortisol issue.

these are probably the best doses and cycles to take ru with from what we have seen, but a lot of us have taken different routes and still have shown possitive out comes.

for me, my first cycle was 3 days and it was great! my second was 9 days and i took 50mg every other day and it actually did not help once it was done since the prolactin sides actually ended up setting me back. on that cycle i had some good highs tho, but prolactin fucked me.

just some info for thought.

other than that about ru i think we are looking at a solid, plan bud!
CDsnuts protocol involves Randro and ru makes you much more receptive to it

 

[IHateFin]

Seeking help from you guys because some of you are much, much smarter than I am and I need help.

I am a post Accutane sufferer and have all PFS sides. Extreme loss of libido and pleasure in penis. After dealing with the condition for 4 months I started injecting myself with testosterone (although prior to using exogenous testosterone I had natural blood work twice for testosterone and I was very high, one of them above range while on Accutane, I️ was literally naturally test levels of 31 on a scale of 8-28) and used DHT derivative hormones like Masteron and Superdrol and some progestin hormones like MENT/Trestosolone(which improved my symptoms 100% more than any other hormone insane) and I was able to regain some sex drive and libido, although blowjobs weren’t as good like prior to this mess it’s not like I would crave one but sexual activity started to become fun again, I regained a libido and could get really turned on and horny just lack of pleasure/orgasm intensity)

Now Admitingly I abused. the living **** out of these hormones and used stupidly high dosages. I️ have now been off of every hormone for 9 weeks and am battling crippling depression and absolutely no energy every day and lost the sexual benefits . as to be expected after going cold turkey off of hormones. I️ abused them as much as I️ needed to keep my sex drive high. I️ was very content with my sex drive on the hormones.

I️ am now off and feeling terrible but in all honesty I️ feel like steroids made a slight permanent reability in my sex drive like at first I️ was 0% but now I’m 20%(

Seeing as my test is probably crashing and my whole body is withdrawing from having such insanely high test and DHT levels for months to practically none there is no way I ha e recovered in these 9 weeks.
I hope I can recover my high test and I have this theory that by abusing the **** out of testosterone and withdrawaling cold turkey and putting myself in a state of complete testosterone depletion that when I️ begin to soon take boosting test herbs, pct and such that i will regain sensitivity to testosterone and regain my sex drive. Maybe I needed to totally deplete myself and have my body used to that in order to let things set back to normal?

Would this make sense or am I just dumb?

Thanks you to anyone who helps. I am 19 and have been in this mess since 17 and refuse to live without a sex drive. I need to fix this
Sent from my iPhone

dang man thats a lot of shut down that you are going through right now from all those steroids. masteron is pretty amazing anabolic, but now you have to recover from your steroid cycle before you can even begin recovering from Post Accutane.

i honestly think if you did a good fast for at least 2 weeks this should help a lot with recensitizing receptors and a way to start a clean slate and maybe even help as a "PCT" to get your HPTA continuing to recover. a cycle like that can take months to naturally recover from like at least 3 months or more and you may not end up with your baseline test after either.

since youre looking to do the CDsnuts protocol theres a fast involved in the start so youll be good sticking with that plan after ru n such.

 

[Goose12]

I agree with IhateFin, I think ru and CDnuts protocol are a great combination. The only other thing I would add to the CDnuts daily supplement list is magnesium and potassium chloride, right before taking whey protein. This, along with pine pollen is a ghetto version of gbolduev zinc finger theory that I don't see any reason that it could imbalance anybody any further unlike trying minerals and large doses of one or two aminos. I have had good results from adding magnesium and potassium chloride.

This is basically the protocol I have been following for the last 7 months and added RU, 2 months ago. I have had great success with it so far.

Another thing I recommend is to make sure to cycle the herbs. Other people and myself included have had setbacks by taking an herb consistently for weeks or months. The snap back from the herbs is where the magic is at.

 

[tanedout]

I agree with IhateFin, I think ru and CDnuts protocol are a great combination. The only other thing I would add to the CDnuts daily supplement list is magnesium and potassium chloride, right before taking whey protein. This, along with pine pollen is a ghetto version of gbolduev zinc finger theory that I don't see any reason that it could imbalance anybody any further unlike trying minerals and large doses of one or two aminos. I have had good results from adding magnesium and potassium chloride.

What's the thinking behind the whey protein? I'm interested that you mention that as I've been looking at amino acid complexes (to get a good balance of all the essential, and other key amino) and I've noticed from looking at the ingredients that many are just whey protein, so that must be a great source. Is this why you are taking it, for the essential amino acids?

 

[Goose12]

What's the thinking behind the whey protein? I'm interested that you mention that as I've been looking at amino acid complexes (to get a good balance of all the essential, and other key amino) and I've noticed from looking at the ingredients that many are just whey protein, so that must be a great source. Is this why you are taking it, for the essential amino acids?

You are right, I am taking it for the amino acids. I am taking it with magnesium and potassium chloride to help absorb the amino acids.

Whey protein amino acid profile

 

[tanedout]

You are right, I am taking it for the amino acids. I am taking it with magnesium and potassium chloride to help absorb the amino acids.

Whey protein amino acid profile

Thanks, how much do you take daily? Do you work out daily as well?

I see CD includes whey protein in his regime, although he doesn't specifically mention it's for the amino acids. I've got some on order as I want to ensure I'm getting the essential amino's before maybe upping histidine and cysteine

 

[joekool]

Hey @tanedout , just for the record ... amino acids make up a protein. When you ingest protein, they are broken down to individual amino acids. Whey is a great source and typically easily digested. However , some sources of protein have different levels of the amino acids. Additionally, some protein shakes digest at different rates.. such as casein protein, typically is much longer to digest.

You definitely get a full spectrum from whey but I think some of the protocols benefit from a separate dose of an amino acid, sometimes both higher than a typical protein shake serving and sometimes more than once a day.

You can’t go wrong with a protein shake. I add egg whites and oatmeal to mine. Just sharing with you what they break down to. Aminos

 

[Goose12]

Thanks, how much do you take daily? Do you work out daily as well?

I see CD includes whey protein in his regime, although he doesn't specifically mention it's for the amino acids. I've got some on order as I want to ensure I'm getting the essential amino's before maybe upping histidine and cysteine

I just take one serving a day of whey. Lately I haven't been working out like I should but I am pretty active at work. I just started a new job and I am trying to get in the groove again of working out.

 

[Flynn]

Seeking help from you guys because some of you are much, much smarter than I am and I need help.

I am a post Accutane sufferer and have all PFS sides. Extreme loss of libido and pleasure in penis. After dealing with the condition for 4 months I started injecting myself with testosterone (although prior to using exogenous testosterone I had natural blood work twice for testosterone and I was very high, one of them above range while on Accutane, I️ was literally naturally test levels of 31 on a scale of 8-28) and used DHT derivative hormones like Masteron and Superdrol and some progestin hormones like MENT/Trestosolone(which improved my symptoms 100% more than any other hormone insane) and I was able to regain some sex drive and libido, although blowjobs weren’t as good like prior to this mess it’s not like I would crave one but sexual activity started to become fun again, I regained a libido and could get really turned on and horny just lack of pleasure/orgasm intensity)

Now Admitingly I abused. the living **** out of these hormones and used stupidly high dosages. I️ have now been off of every hormone for 9 weeks and am battling crippling depression and absolutely no energy every day and lost the sexual benefits . as to be expected after going cold turkey off of hormones. I️ abused them as much as I️ needed to keep my sex drive high. I️ was very content with my sex drive on the hormones.

I️ am now off and feeling terrible but in all honesty I️ feel like steroids made a slight permanent reability in my sex drive like at first I️ was 0% but now I’m 20%(

Seeing as my test is probably crashing and my whole body is withdrawing from having such insanely high test and DHT levels for months to practically none there is no way I ha e recovered in these 9 weeks.
I hope I can recover my high test and I have this theory that by abusing the **** out of testosterone and withdrawaling cold turkey and putting myself in a state of complete testosterone depletion that when I️ begin to soon take boosting test herbs, pct and such that i will regain sensitivity to testosterone and regain my sex drive. Maybe I needed to totally deplete myself and have my body used to that in order to let things set back to normal?

Would this make sense or am I just dumb?

Thanks you to anyone who helps. I am 19 and have been in this mess since 17 and refuse to live without a sex drive. I need to fix this
Sent from my iPhone

1. Did you take Ment/Trestosolone on a separate occasion than the other steroids?

2. When you say 100% more, do you mean it literally had 100% more of an effect or it just 100% definitely had more of an effect. Like on a scale of 1-10 how much more of an effect did MENT/Trestosolone have on your sex drive compared to the other hormones?

I'm just interested because, testosterone ethanante had no effect on my accutane induced sexual dysfunction. So it's very interesting that it helped you. I would also take that as a very good sign. This shows that there is less chance that there is permanent damage to your sex drive.

 

[PAS]

I am trying the accutane with someone now. We will see how it works, and then I will post.

Thank you sir, me and other people are EAGERLY waiting for something, I know this is something that cant be rushed, but ive reached a very bad point now and this is something good to look forward to.

Even if nothing comes out of this, the fact that you are trying makes me as happy as physically possible (I ve got complete anhedonia, not sure if others have it or just me ).