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[5 alpha]

Certain RP forum characters are more concerned with their egos, forum status, and maintaining the equilibrium that is Haidut's sales and Ray Peat's cuneiform tablet writings than a useful and progress-making groupthink including Gbol.

That made me laugh so hard :lol:

The PFS thread was deleted to hide the evidence. It clearly shoes that gbolduev did not "attack" and "abuse" other members, as Charlie claimed, but, in fact, the opposite: gbolduev being attacked by other members and him defending. Since Charlie kicked gbolduev on basis of the false claim above, he had to get rid of the evidence showing otherwise. Else, other members would keep pointing out.

I don't feel that haidut had anything to do with gbolduev being kicked out. I think it was Charlie. He made that special announcement first, set special rules only for gbolduev, and that's when I knew it's time to start saving the posts. It was super predictable.

I absolutely agree, I started copying the Q&A thread right around the same time. I called Charlie out on this a few times, it was obvious he and others didn't want gbolduev there and he kept saying I was "spreading lies and misinformation" when I dared point out the obviousness of what they were doing. Ha okay. That guy is FOS.

I wouldn't put it past haidut to have a role in it though, aside from the supplement racket he has going on (which there's gotta be kickbacks going to Charlie for, I mean c'mon) the dude couldn't wait to get more comments on previous posts that gbolduev's statements were in direct opposition to. I noticed it one day when I looked at the home page in the middle of all the discussions going on with gbolduev, haidut was the most recent commenter on almost every topic, and he even had to throw down more of his own BS posts to counterattack. Did you catch the one he did last Saturday called "Exercise + Fasting Is Stress, Causes Obesity and IR, Requires Cortisol Blockade to Reverse"? It's still going today. I would almost bet haidut was whispering in Charlie's ear about gbolduev leading all the little Peat sheep astray with his "blasphemy".

Just find it odd how often Charlie would flip flop. Once minute he is cool with Gbol and makes a thread defending him, then bans him again, then enough people complain then he just randomly says ban is lifted, then gbol gets banned again and Charlie deletes a 200+ page out of nowhere.

He sounds weak minded and easily influenced by people that have is ear which explains his flip floping.

Lol I was thinking about reporting him to this agency I found that investigates unlawful sale of drugs on a website. But than I realized that haidut would take most of the heat if the agency actually agreed to investigate the claim and that I was taking getting kicked off a internet forum personally so I did not do it. In other words "reasonableness" kicked in...lmfao

 

[TubZy]

[quote="5 alpha" post_id=1075 time=1507775543 user_id=57]

That made me laugh so hard :lol:





I absolutely agree, I started copying the Q&A thread right around the same time. I called Charlie out on this a few times, it was obvious he and others didn't want gbolduev there and he kept saying I was "spreading lies and misinformation" when I dared point out the obviousness of what they were doing. Ha okay. That guy is FOS.

I wouldn't put it past haidut to have a role in it though, aside from the supplement racket he has going on (which there's gotta be kickbacks going to Charlie for, I mean c'mon) the dude couldn't wait to get more comments on previous posts that gbolduev's statements were in direct opposition to. I noticed it one day when I looked at the home page in the middle of all the discussions going on with gbolduev, haidut was the most recent commenter on almost every topic, and he even had to throw down more of his own BS posts to counterattack. Did you catch the one he did last Saturday called "Exercise + Fasting Is Stress, Causes Obesity and IR, Requires Cortisol Blockade to Reverse"? It's still going today. I would almost bet haidut was whispering in Charlie's ear about gbolduev leading all the little Peat sheep astray with his "blasphemy".

Just find it odd how often Charlie would flip flop. Once minute he is cool with Gbol and makes a thread defending him, then bans him again, then enough people complain then he just randomly says ban is lifted, then gbol gets banned again and Charlie deletes a 200+ page out of nowhere.

He sounds weak minded and easily influenced by people that have is ear which explains his flip floping.

Lol I was thinking about reporting him to this agency I found that investigates unlawful sale of drugs on a website. But than I realized that haidut would take most of the heat if the agency actually agreed to investigate the claim and that I was taking getting kicked off a internet forum personally so I did not do it. In other words "reasonableness" kicked in...lmfao
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Lol nah, I wouldn't do that. I haven't came across any direct evidence yet that Haidut he told Charlie to do that, he knows we were/are customers of his (a lot of ppl still use 5a-dhp), I can't see him just isolating a decent percentage of his customers like that and I don't think Haidut is that stupid (not saying it isn't possible though).

I am somehow still not banned yet, I have no idea how, but I don't post LOL.

Regardless of who was telling him (prob Drareg and Westside PUFA for sure) Charlie is definitely directly responsible as he had the end decision, I mean look at the RPF.org forum there are threads upon threads of people running into the same issues and hating on him.

I think the worst out of all them is that Drareg dude though, straight up psychopath, there is literally no reasoning with him. That guy literally had so much beef with Gbol and me (I never had any interaction w/ him before) he became like obsessive about it and still is...

 

[5 alpha]

Do you guys know the usernames of anyone who was recently banned by raypeatforum.com? I would like to add any new bannings to my list here: http://raypeatforums.org/showthread.php?tid=111

I was banned. Snell1234

banned (and hacked) lol

 

[Snell1234]

Lol did they post in our names for us?

 

[5 alpha]

Lol did they post in our names for us?

nah nothing like that. My email address associated with that site was just logged into as was another email address that belonged to me .

very weird

 

[P_stashio]

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[TubZy]

I don't get all this ray peat stuff. Can someone give me the low down. Checked the forum Ray Peat..... Seems like he was a doctor that invented a diet.... What does that have to do with PFS.??

Honestly, wouldn't even bother at this point he is irrelevant now along with his die hard supporters who suggest you to drink a liter of orange juice and milk a day to cure PFS or any other condition and if you happen to get fat from that or it doesn't fix your condition it is your fault and not the fact that everyone's metabolism can be different.

Ray is cool as a person IMO, it just a few of his crazy die hard extremist supporters are really the ones who give him a bad reputation.

 

[P_stashio]

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[Canari]

The "gbolduev-q-and-a-non-peat" is going on with cites and research and studies....

 

[Canari]

How can they that RPDiet is not a stereotype recommending the same to everybody? Good for whom it works.
1 gallon skim milk
125-150 g sugar
1 qrt of oj
I used to be eating more (2 qrts of OJ, 250 g of sugar) but stopped as I put on a fair amount of weight.
30g salt
1 raw egg yolk
1-2 carrots,
1-3 cups of strong coffee
1.5 lb of boiled mushrooms/week
weekly shrimp
bi weekly liver
niacinamide
pregnenelone
progesterone
a large pinch or two of NDT
B12 - vitamin E
methylene blue
3 g of aspirin with the appropriate amount of k

 

[HerrFisch]

How can they that RPDiet is not a stereotype recommending the same to everybody? Good for whom it works.
1 gallon skim milk
125-150 g sugar
1 qrt of oj
I used to be eating more (2 qrts of OJ, 250 g of sugar) but stopped as I put on a fair amount of weight.
30g salt
1 raw egg yolk
1-2 carrots,
1-3 cups of strong coffee
1.5 lb of boiled mushrooms/week
weekly shrimp
bi weekly liver
niacinamide
pregnenelone
progesterone
a large pinch or two of NDT
B12 - vitamin E
methylene blue
3 g of aspirin with the appropriate amount of k

30g of Salt !!

 

[IHateFin]

Hey TubZy.... Could you read my latest post and give your thoughts..... You seem like an experienced guy and I have seen you on all the other sites as well.

I heard this goldbeuv guy had a good go with Clomid.... Need to ask him about it.

Gboldev did clomid with cabergoline tho. [mention]joekool[/mention] did almost the exact same clomid cycle he did and moderately rose above baseline if I'm not mistaken.

 

[5 alpha]

How can they that RPDiet is not a stereotype recommending the same to everybody? Good for whom it works.
1 gallon skim milk
125-150 g sugar
1 qrt of oj
I used to be eating more (2 qrts of OJ, 250 g of sugar) but stopped as I put on a fair amount of weight.
30g salt
1 raw egg yolk
1-2 carrots,
1-3 cups of strong coffee
1.5 lb of boiled mushrooms/week
weekly shrimp
bi weekly liver
niacinamide
pregnenelone
progesterone
a large pinch or two of NDT
B12 - vitamin E
methylene blue
3 g of aspirin with the appropriate amount of k

This is the ray peat diet ?

he calls for a gallon of skim milk per day with 125-150 g of sugar?

I never actually had a chance to read about what the ray peat diet actually was. This sounds awful. lol

 

[Canari]

Typical of what a lot of people come out with, yes, that is why I copied this one. The dosis comes from the personal case of the person and his decisions of course.

This is tricky to say "RP", because he calls for a more varied diet and for using real food, but when asked specifically yes he direct toward low fat milk and OJ. He usually mentions it "for example" but his examples are often the same, so people stick to his examples. And they rule out what is not mentioned by him. The RPF also has a list of P friendly fruits, that exclude all berries because you cannot get rid of the seeds of strawberries etc, and they have pufas. RP advises a diet high in tropical fruits, and people take sugar only because it is cheaper and available. Peat speak of masa harina, but nobody uses it because they do not live in Mexico. He speaks of potato juice too, that you can cook like scramble eggs, because he answered that yes you can live on a vegetarian diet.

As Gbolduev mentions, this can work for SOME people yes. The problem is often the one mention in the quote: putting on fat.

 

[5 alpha]

Typical of what a lot of people come out with, yes, that is why I copied this one. The dosis comes from the personal case of the person and his decisions of course.

This is tricky to say "RP", because he calls for a more varied diet and for using real food, but when asked specifically yes he direct toward low fat milk and OJ. He usually mentions it "for example" but his examples are often the same, so people stick to his examples. And they rule out what is not mentioned by him. The RPF also has a list of P friendly fruits, that exclude all berries because you cannot get rid of the seeds of strawberries etc, and they have pufas. RP advises a diet high in tropical fruits, and people take sugar only because it is cheaper and available. Peat speak of masa harina, but nobody uses it because they do not live in Mexico. He speaks of potato juice too, that you can cook like scramble eggs, because he answered that yes you can live on a vegetarian diet.

As Gbolduev mentions, this can work for SOME people yes. The problem is often the one mention in the quote: putting on fat.

interesting

so are the general recommendations of a RP diet similar to paleo?

 

[Canari]

[quote="5 alpha" post_id=1928 time=1508389488 user_id=57]
interesting
so are the general recommendations of a RP diet similar to paleo?[/quote]
Interesting you say so, because in my view, yes, quite a lot of similar things, but it has been discussed on RPF, and some people made the reverse statement and were anti-paleo, and even scandalized by the idea those diets could be similar.
Of course, if you eat such processed food as sugar and homogenized skimmed milk, this is the opposite of paleo. Then the big difference is about including nuts or not in the diet... And all people tend to forget about vegetables in both peat and paleo diet (well in their adaptation of the diet...)

If you eat tropical fruits, all parts of animals including using bones and offals, and sea food and eggs, then it is very paleo! If you are a bit more modern in the time scale, you can be masaï-like, with milk... Or aztec like with masa harina. But if you have no local access to good sources of all this, it can never be paleo, especially in you run on a moving carpet instead of running on the motivation of you next meal!

 

[Canari]

Random Quote
“Once we accept that knowledge is tentative, and that we are probably going to improve our knowledge in important ways when we learn more about the world, we are less likely to reject new information that conflicts with our present ideas. The attitude of expectancy will allow us to apply insights gained at one level of generality to other levels. No particular kind of knowledge will have such authority that it will automatically exclude certain possibilities in another field of knowledge.”
Ray Peat PhD

 

[HerrFisch]

Not beeing able to post & send messages = banned ?

I dont know what I did wrong on RPF but discussing about bacteria.

I might have confronted Charlie and his statement "Intermittent fasting destroyes metabolism"

Does he really ban that fast ?

Are you guys still on RPF sometimes? Or did you stop browsing RPF completely?

 

[Canari]

Following one conversation and watching the ol' gb thread just in case....
Banned with no warning? ???

 

[Aleksandr]

Not beeing able to post & send messages = banned ?

I dont know what I did wrong on RPF but discussing about bacteria.

I might have confronted Charlie and his statement "Intermittent fasting destroyes metabolism"

Does he really ban that fast ?

Are you guys still on RPF sometimes? Or did you stop browsing RPF completely?

I stopped completely