All back to normal at Ray Peat Forum
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It's really a nightmare over there since haidut's supplement business took over. All those "patches" to make folks feel good in the short term, but not getting to the root of the problem or "healing" anyone. There was no good reason for Charlie to delete that PFS thread either, I'm guessing haidut put him up to it. Disgraceful either way. They are actually making a mockery of Ray Peat's ideals in my opinion.
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"yeah, start pounding sugar and take something to lower prolactin, you will be cured in no time, if it doesn't work it's your own fault and not Peat's advice and don't you dare think about criticizing him he can never be wrong"
So much for being open minded...
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So much for being open minded...
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Haha they knew they were about to have their forum collapse due to being exposed by gbolduev, so they deleted all his threads and posts. Charlie said he cared about pfs yet he goes and deletes all the ip in the thread. He cares more about haidut making money and having his own forum believe the Ray peat bullshit.TubZy post_id=229 time=1507219034 user_id=2 said:
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The moderate Peaters were fine with it, it was the extreme die hard Peaters who started going nuts about it...my thoughts are a lot of them weren't in good health and have been peating for quite some time yet for some reason are still reluctant to change, why not be open minded to some new ideas? No one is forcing you to read and adapt to Gbol's style.
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TubZy post_id=260 time=1507232853 user_id=2 said:
I totally agree, there are good people there, but gosh, some follow Peat blindly! I read a topic where a guy with SCHIZOPHRENIA introduced himself and detailed his diet, supplementation and stuff, all based on Peat, and one guy replied with the following:
"With this regimen I dont know how your not cured yet."
Some of them thinks that Peating is the ultimate answer for everyone. I dont like this mindset.
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Well, it is just dangerous... And then they apply this mindset to others, thinking that gbol is a cult too. Neither him nor Peat want to be deified!
What is strange is that all diet cults have a strictly forbidden food! For some it is meat or all animal food, others are scared of sugar or the 3 S, and some are scared by pufa though you cannot deplete them!
I am glad that olive oil is better than sunflower oil, but I went too low on olive oil and 1st time in my life I have gall bladder problems. I did not know that coconut oil does not stimulate bile! Then you cannot detox with your liver without enough bile...
What is strange is that all diet cults have a strictly forbidden food! For some it is meat or all animal food, others are scared of sugar or the 3 S, and some are scared by pufa though you cannot deplete them!
I am glad that olive oil is better than sunflower oil, but I went too low on olive oil and 1st time in my life I have gall bladder problems. I did not know that coconut oil does not stimulate bile! Then you cannot detox with your liver without enough bile...
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What a joke.
Also sad to see the collection of guys over on solvepfs now doing whatever they can to raise money for a "cure" and follow Melcangi's 5ar type studies. I liked having a blog over there and met a few good guys through that site, but its becoming such a defeatist forum just like Propeciahelp.
Think I'm going to copy and paste my blog posts from here over there so I can give those poor dudes hope. Maybe I'll get one of them to snap out of it.
Also sad to see the collection of guys over on solvepfs now doing whatever they can to raise money for a "cure" and follow Melcangi's 5ar type studies. I liked having a blog over there and met a few good guys through that site, but its becoming such a defeatist forum just like Propeciahelp.
Think I'm going to copy and paste my blog posts from here over there so I can give those poor dudes hope. Maybe I'll get one of them to snap out of it.
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Shadow post_id=278 time=1507239226 user_id=54 said:
They are really just looking at the 5ar enzymes. I'm not the guy to really complain about studies as I'm glad they are doing them. And there's nothing wrong to look at this avenue. I just don't think our issues really have much to do with 5ar. I think GBol is correct to look down the progesterone receptor/pathway route. It just makes more sense.
For instance, I know a guy from allthingsmale that used fin for years and has very similar 5athf/thf ratio as mine. We are both off fin now. Why did I get messed up and he was fine? Don't think the issue really has to do with 5ar. Something else happened and I hope Gbol is right and find it very plausible.
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bruschi11 post_id=281 time=1507239628 user_id=55 said:
Oh I understand what you are saying, I suffer from pssd, and I heard similar thinking, like blaming the serotonin too much.
I dont know if you read it but I will quote it:
Some people from pssdforum start looking at pfs too because SSRIs mess with neurosteroid synthesis too, who could lead to something very similar.
I friend did this:
Looks like that the enzymes are just the path to some dysregulation.
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Shadow post_id=263 time=1507233462 user_id=54 said:
Exactly lol. There are so many logs of people who have been peating for years and have complained about putting on abdominal fat and getting guts now, yet they still keep trying over and over again.
There is a very high chance that you or anyone else that posts there for help are in better shape than most of the people actually giving the advice there, and yet the many people giving the "advice" don't even understand the advice they are giving..they are simply just repeating it from someone else...
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Keep peating and you'll look like slade! Hahahaha
On the real tho it's a shame that they deleted that PFS thread. By far the most popular, insightful and beneficial PFS thread I have ever seen and been apart of.
It could have gone down in history. They just shat all over that dream
On the real tho it's a shame that they deleted that PFS thread. By far the most popular, insightful and beneficial PFS thread I have ever seen and been apart of.
It could have gone down in history. They just shat all over that dream
bruschi11 post_id=275 time=1507238388 user_id=55 said:
Yeah, same thing on the PSSD forum. The hottest discussion topic recently has been about fundraising for Dr. Healy's "RxISK PSSD prize" which would hypothetically be given out to anyone that cures PSSD. My issue with all of this is that the fundraiser is now getting more attention than people researching theories or testing medications/supplements. The attitude is totally defeatist, just like SolvePFS and PH.
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IHateFin post_id=308 time=1507251226 user_id=48 said:
Lmao. Too bad slade posted his pics, he could have gone down as the alleged best looking peater.
I'm disappointed in the RP forum... PFS thread was certainly one of the most critical and enlightening threads of all. My guess is gbol's influence and polarization, coupled with his nonchalance in disagreeing with peat, was too strong of a force to be left brewing in the forum. I was most surprised (and entertained) at how fervently some of the hardcore peaters came out of the woodwork to slander Gbol. Certain RP forum characters are more concerned with their egos, forum status, and maintaining the equilibrium that is Haidut's sales and Ray Peat's cuneiform tablet writings than a useful and progress-making groupthink including Gbol.