Alpha-GPC gave man uncontrollable libido

[Helen]

@Helen do you think using something like spiro could replace progesterone to counteract the aldosterone?

yeah, spiro is what is used for hairloss, but it has very bad sides to it. I thought.

I am still thinking what is the best way to regulate this fastest.

We want to cure this , not just block something.

Anavar blocks all of this alright. also

Still thinking

 

[Miggie]

yeah, spiro is what is used for hairloss, but it has very bad sides to it. I thought.

It is actually interesting to try in PFS state.

Yeah it's used for MtF transgenders. However if someone where to use test with the spiro to counter some of the sides. I'm still debating whether to use progesterone, because last time it made me gain fat around the chest. Do you have any idea how this happened? Did the prog use up all iron to convert this into cortisol? The diet at the time was very high in iron.

Ps how are the anavar experiments coming? If you need it in powder form which is a lot cheaper than tabs, I know a few suppliers If needed.

 

[Helen]

Yeah it's used for MtF transgenders. However if someone where to use test with the spiro to counter some of the sides. I'm still debating whether to use progesterone, because last time it made me gain fat around the chest. Do you have any idea how this happened? Did the prog use up all iron to convert this into cortisol? The diet at the time was very high in iron.

Ps how are the anavar experiments coming? If you need it in powder form which is a lot cheaper than tabs, I know a few suppliers If needed.

progesterone alone blocks testosterone . by inhibiting 3 beta hsd

 

[Miggie]

progesterone alone blocks testosterone . by inhibiting 3 beta hsd

Also forgot to mention I was on the progestin called deca. So i guess that plummeted my levels even further.

 

[Helen]

Also forgot to mention I was on the progestin called deca. So i guess that plummeted my levels even further.

Deca turns into dihydronandrolone, this compound is weaker than DHT like 10 times, but it binds the receptor,

dihydronandrolone circulates in the body for about 9 months. blocking DHT. This is why it causes problems.

taking progesterone with deca kills test totally. you had no DHT action whatsoever,


until dihydronandrolone gets out of your system , all you can do is support extra DHT with testosterone.

So I would go on testosterone plus progesterone in your case. and wait out , until DECA leaves the system. And never do DECA again.

 

[Miggie]

Deca turns into dihydronandrolone, this compound is weaker than DHT like 10 times, but it binds the receptor,

dihydronandrolone circulates in the body for about 9 months. blocking DHT. This is why it causes problems.

taking progesterone with deca kills test totally. you had no DHT action whatsoever,


until dihydronandrolone gets out of your system , all you can do is support extra DHT with testosterone.

So I would go on testosterone plus progesterone in your case. and wait out , until DECA leaves the system. And never do DECA again.

Thanks for the advice. Deca is never going in again, lesson learned the hard way. It turned me into a zombie.

 

[RebelWithACause]

Thanks for the advice. Deca is never going in again, lesson learned the hard way. It turned me into a zombie.

Damn crazy. Do you know Taeian Clark? He is guy who recommends deca only cycles. But I am seeing more and more evidence it is not good idea.

 

[Miggie]

Damn crazy. Do you know Taeian Clark? He is guy who recommends deca only cycles. But I am seeing more and more evidence it is not good idea.

Yeah I know taeian. He advices Deca solo to me. It seems a lot of guys do well on it but a lot of them including me did not fare well on it. Whenever I take it, it completely destroys my digestion and I get bacne from it. And of course the living in a bubble is not something you want. It kinda feels like PFS.

 

[tanedout]

Choline seems to improve libido for me, and I was about to get on it again recently, but I've been a little put off by the result of a recently study showing the following;

Powerful new evidence from the Cleveland Clinic confirms a link between choline, a nutrient naturally found in foods like red meat, egg yolks and dairy products, and the risk of dangerous blood clotting. Choline interacts with gut bacteria to make the blood more prone to clotting by helping to produce a compound called, trimethylene N-oxide (TMAO).
Elevated blood levels of TMAO have been linked to an increased risk of heart attack, stroke, and death, and research shows that TMAO may directly contribute to the narrowing of artery walls through plaque build-up.

Choline, TMAO and Heart Health - Cleveland HeartLab, Inc.

I'm sure it's only high doses, and to be honest half of us probably don't even have the right gut bacteria to convert it into TMAO probably, but still it's worth knowing!

 

[Helen]

Choline seems to improve libido for me, and I was about to get on it again recently, but I've been a little put off by the result of a recently study showing the following;



Choline, TMAO and Heart Health - Cleveland HeartLab, Inc.

I'm sure it's only high doses, and to be honest half of us probably don't even have the right gut bacteria to convert it into TMAO probably, but still it's worth knowing!

this is because choline lowers metabolism. Everything that lowers metabolism thickens the blood.

 

[IHateFin]

welp time to OD on alpha GPC LOL jk jk I kid I kid.... I do like the sound of the crazy sex drive tho. before var I was taking plain choline at 500mg. might pick that one back up again. low dose and Im sure its good to go.

 

[MNK99]

CHOLINE almost (not quite) is better than most adhd meds and any mood med for me but sometimes makes me too insomnia ridden and stuff. GOOD for work and school, and gym for sure. Injured back (overtraining, twisting and turning, some other stuff), gonna take it easy. GPC is a precursor, so less risky than pure choline. Barbitarate messed up my stomach. I'll cycle choline on and off life long; unless I find something better, maybe Uridine (but I don't mean for PFS, I mean later).

It takes a lot to get me to sit the fuck down, need a standing / pacing desk for sure. I use the kitchen island at times or any of several rooms, but need to hunch over, or lie down.

 

[Nina]

this is because choline lowers metabolism. Everything that lowers metabolism thickens the blood.

LOL is this why calcium and copper foods make my libido go up like crazy? By causing low metabolism?