Area-1255's Titan DHT Gel 50% (not for PFS) Review & Log.

[Helen]

What about estrogen then? a lot of guys on trt take AI's and they still have issues with libido etc. You said higher test > more dht conversion so higher dht. So is all the water retention steroid users get from the higher dht and aldosterone levels or does estrogen increase this as well?

Estrogen increases calcium retention. So lowers thyroid and stops the LH. So if you have low thyroid, estrogen will not be allowed.

This is why off season, if you take testosterone, you can take thyroid, and this will keep estrogen high, and grow more muscle.

Since estrogen grows the muscle even more than DHT.

and people who bulk inhibiting estrogen are crazy. Maximum what you can do is take caber, or progesterone to avoid prolactin.

 

[Helen]

Then you have guys who take all steroids and they have no hairloss, no acne, etc. It is just weird. They do all types of crazy shit and have no problems (on the outside).

Their DHT on blood test would be over 5000 probably.

Is it genes? It must be. I know bodybuilders doing extreme cycles. They have full hair and no acne. They did age a lot. But it depended on person. Some guys look fine.

Their DHT will be nowhere close to 5000, even if they take 3000 of test a week. body will try to bind all test, lower free test to zero. and try to piss out as much a possible.

People who take like 500 a week, will never have high DHT.

this is why I said that high test cycles are just waste of MONEY/ body is just pissing that shit out.

 

[RebelWithACause]

Also big issue I had on finasteride was slurred speak and unable to find words to say. I forgot how bad it was because it has been so long. LOL What a fucking hell it was. I was living like subhuman.

 

[RebelWithACause]

Their DHT will be nowhere close to 5000, even if they take 3000 of test a week. body will try to bind all test, lower free test to zero. and try to piss out as much a possible.

People who take like 500 a week, will never have high DHT.

this is why I said that high test cycles are just waste of MONEY/ body is just pissing that shit out.

Yes but they take DHT compounds like masteron on a blast/cut. In high amount. This acts same as DHT right.

 

[Helen]

Yes but they take DHT compounds like masteron on a blast/cut. In high amount. This acts same as DHT right.

proviron masteron, are all weaker than DHT. so block DHT. action. Thus increase 5 AR LOL

 

[RebelWithACause]

proviron masterone, are all weaker than DHT. so block DHT. action.

Oh that is interesting.

 

[Helen]

Oh that is interesting.

think about, people say DHT increases its own synthesis. LOL How.

If you give DHT which is strong enough as your own DHT. your 5AR should be suppressed, like happens with any hormone. like you give dexamethasone it suppressed 11 beta hsd. cortisol.

but these clowns all take stuff which is weaker than DHT, and temporarily block AR with it. and this increase 5 AR and say DHT provides its own synthesis

 

[RebelWithACause]

You did estrogen therapy right? How did you feel on it? It will shutdown LH completely right. So you have no testosterone in the body? Did you act like female?

 

[Helen]

You did estrogen therapy right? How did you feel on it? It will shutdown LH completely right. So you have no testosterone in the body? Did you act like female?

estrogen will only suppress you if you have low metabolism. It wont suppress shit if you have high metabolism and actually will make you feel better and super sexual. Just like copper.

You feel more aggressive on copper, copper raises estrogen.

if you take tons and tons of estrogen yes you will feel really irritable , really down, NOTHING to do with the woman.

you should feel very low metabolism. then your progesterone rises to compensate.

I think a man needs to block AR to really convert. I am not sure it is possible to convert just from taking estrogen.


hahah I never did long cycles of that stuff, so I dont know.

 

[RebelWithACause]

estrogen will only suppress you if you have low metabolism. It wont suppress shit if you have high metabolism and actually will make you feel better and super sexual. Just like copper.

You feel more aggressive on copper, copper raises estrogen.

if you take tons and tons of estrogen yes you will feel really irritable , really down, NOTHING to do with the woman.

you should feel very low metabolism. then your progesterone rises to compensate.

I think a man needs to block AR to really convert. I am not sure it is possible to convert just from taking estrogen.


hahah I never did long cycles of that stuff, so I dont know.

OK cool.

I think trannies should know more about how hormones work. They are essentially doing same what people on TRT do. Taking hormone externally. But they do not understand what it actually does to them. Maybe they will not become tranny anymore then.

For me I think low estrogen is shittier than high estrogen. Most bodybuilders agree. High estrogen is more emotional but also horny. Low estrogen is complete death.

 

[Helen]

OK cool.

I think trannies should know more about how hormones work. They are essentially doing same what people on TRT do. Taking hormone externally. But they do not understand what it actually does to them. Maybe they will not become tranny anymore then.

For me I think low estrogen is shittier than high estrogen. Most bodybuilders agree. High estrogen is more emotional but also horny. Low estrogen is complete death.

agreed low estrogen , you have zero emotions. , this is why you become not emotional, you look at a chick just as a piece of meat, you see her wrinkles , you have zero turn on.

But estrogen is allowed only in fast metabolism,

 

[RebelWithACause]

agreed low estrogen , you have zero emotions. , this is why you become not emotional, you look at a chick just as a piece of meat, you see her wrinkles , you have zero turn on.

But estrogen is allowed only in fast metabolism,

Yes. This is also when you take high zinc (which causes low estrogen directly but also by lowering copper I assume). This is how I felt lately. Not EXTREME. You can go to extreme and see all girls are ugly. I also had this in past when I used arimidex. You also get very irritated. Now it was milder but still noticeable. No emotions. But also no joy/no sexuality.

So slow oxidizer cannot have higher estrogen? Or do I not understand it right

 

[Helen]

Yes. This is also when you take high zinc (which causes low estrogen directly but also by lowering copper I assume). This is how I felt lately. Not EXTREME. You can go to extreme and see all girls are ugly. I also had this in past when I used arimidex. You also get very irritated. Now it was milder but still noticeable. No emotions. But also no joy/no sexuality.

So slow oxidizer cannot have higher estrogen? Or do I not understand it right

yes, low metabolism person should not. but sometimes, copper toxicty can cause this and lower metabolism and you become slow oxidizer because of high estrogen.

So it is good to check estrogen levels and see if they are low, means you have problems either with glutathione or thyroid, or oxygen delivery.

if they are high, most likely copper toxic, good to see the testosterone estrogen ratio. Should not be high. or low.

 

[jacknap]

Also big issue I had on finasteride was slurred speak and unable to find words to say. I forgot how bad it was because it has been so long. LOL What a fucking hell it was. I was living like subhuman.

shit I forgot I had that too. For me it went away pretty fast like first month or two. Thought I had a stroke or some severe brain damage but now I find words the way I used too. Mentally pretty much back to normal. Just energy issues but I think that's more because of my sleep not always being good. Slept well last night cuz I used phenibut and my energy is great today.

 

[Minime]

@RebelWithACause finasteride inhibits PROGESTERONE. 5AR inhibition is a needed regulation , the outcome.

People dont crush on finasteride, they crush when they get off, and DHT goes and stays high ) that crushes them

Personally, I crashed when I went back on Fin after being off for a couple months. Took one dose...woke up th next morning a completely different person. I know this is not the norm.

 

[Stud]

I don't know man.

Finasteride inhibits 5AR and thus DHT. Why do people feel feminine on finasteride? Like close to faggot-level?

Is it because lower allopregnenolone? Lower estrogen?

Also when I look at Asian countries (low 5AR expression) they are more passive and sheep-ish. Less aggressive.

I do know black men often have higher estrogen. They did study and white men and black men had similar T levels but black men had higher estrogen.

its because finasteride is a shitty progestin

 

[Stud]

lol @Helen your the one that doesn't know anything about hormones. show me your source then because it certainly goes against the studies I read, everything on the ray peat forum, haidut...

 

[Stud]

the reason i started using dht helen is because I thought it would replecate the godly invincible euphoric feeling of proviron without being toxic to the liver. but it didn't have the same effects still helps with digestion, consiousness, GABA, confidence and so on but in my eyes can't be compared to proviron.

 

[Crashing]

I am thinking that the Russian Star Peptides - 50% DHT Gel may help with my scarring... Have you tried it? Is the packaging discreet? Or does it mention the sender?

 

[Helen]

the reason i started using dht helen is because I thought it would replecate the godly invincible euphoric feeling of proviron without being toxic to the liver. but it didn't have the same effects still helps with digestion, consiousness, GABA, confidence and so on but in my eyes can't be compared to proviron.

exactly , because proviron is ANTI DHT LOL it is weaker than DHT .

Anything that is weaker than DHT, will bind AR receptors and block DHT from acting. Like clomid for estrogen receptor.

Thus it increases 5AR.