Banned from SolvePFS (for this personal blog thread)

[ruprmurdoch]

Do us all a favor and don't come back.

You're a homophobic, moronic internet troll who deserves no attention.

Homophobic is the term which close discussion. This is the same word as ,,fascisst''. Great example of marxist cultural terrorism.
If someone have no argument, he/she will react emotionally and call you: homophobic, fascisst, antisemite
I think we cant tolerate this kind of discusiion where someone instead of using logical arguments, is reacting emotionally.

 

[Niles]

If someone have no argument, he/she will react emotionally and call you: homophobic, fascisst, antisemite
I think we cant tolerate this kind of discusiion where someone instead of using logical arguments, is reacting emotionally.

You've got to call a spade a spade, though... Many of pedal's remarks were unmistakably offensive towards homosexuals, and he kept defending his use of the word "faggot", which is a homophobic slur. Just as the word "kike" is a antisemitic slur. If anyone uses that language, they should be called out accordingly. And idk if you read pedal's posts, but if you had, you would know that a "logical discussion" was out of the question.

 

[noprop]

Has your anhedonia and derealisation improved? If so, did you do anything specific to improve these symptoms or was it just time and/or consistent healthy lifestyle (to an extent that was possible with your list of symptoms)?

@bruschi11 yes I’m very thankful this site was open when this all started for me. I think all pfs related sites should be open for the inevitable new guys who crash. When I first crashed, Swole Source was all but closed and wasn’t accepting my sign up attempts, propecia help still hadn’t had the site revamp and there weren’t many active posters at that point and Solvepfs looked closed when I tried to view the forum. So Hack Stasis was the only site at that point available really.

Yes, I am in a very bad way, suicidal much of the time. Some days are better than others. My face is turning to mush and today my shoulder blades and spine are aching despite not doing any strenuous activity for months. My brain is utterly numb. At least the mirtazepine is allowing longer sleep and increased appetite. I’m no longer skeletal.

Both improved. I am not at 100% in this point. I got gluthatione IV (no oral!), did intermittent fasting for at least 5-7 months and sometimes 2-4 days of fasting. Prog maybe helped AS well. Best

 

[pedal]

What is the point of this thread?

Internet search: Dominican Republic study of dht-deficient males

The discovery of why the Guevedoce children undergo their radical transformation was made decades ago by Julianne Imperato, an endocrinologist from Cornell University in the US, who travelled to the Dominican Republic in the 1970s.

Imperato and her colleagues found that a deficiency in the enzyme 5-α-reductase was responsible for the Guevedoce's rare condition. Without this enzyme, the body doesn't create the male sex hormone dihydrotestosterone (DHT), which prevents the development of male sex organs – until puberty hits, at least, when increased levels of testosterone belatedly reveal that Guevedoces are, in effect, male.

Preceding puberty, however, "the postnatal external genitalia appear to be an ambiguous clitoris and labia," wrote Elizabeth Kelley for ISSUES Berkeley Medical Journal.
Strangely enough, Imperato's discovery was also the foundation of the medicine Finasteride, which is used by thousands, if not millions, of men worldwide to combat both prostate enlargement and male pattern baldness.

Finasteride/Propecia for castration?

 

[Walker]

Homophobic is the term which close discussion. This is the same word as ,,fascisst''. Great example of marxist cultural terrorism.
If someone have no argument, he/she will react emotionally and call you: homophobic, fascisst, antisemite
I think we cant tolerate this kind of discusiion where someone instead of using logical arguments, is reacting emotionally.

Have you followed the topic at all? Any means of logical or rational discussion with OP has been met with irrational response. I also completely disagree with you on the use of homophobic as I did in my post as "cultural Marxist terrorism" - if one is belittling someone because of their sexual orientation, they are being homophobic. That's it, end of story. What you are referring to is cultural "sensitivity" which is what occurs when a cultural Marxist claims ideas such as "white privilege, racism is only for white people, etc.". Two ENTIRELY different things. One who is acting racist, is racist. One who is acting homophobic, is homophobic. The use of those to advance an agenda (dividing a country, passing laws) for political or social reasons, is practicing cultural Marxism.

Please, before you insinuate from a pedestal point of view that I have no bounds in which to argue logically, and assume you are the all knowing, detach your ego and check it at the door and we can discuss it like grown adults.

 

[Shadow]

Internet search: Dominican Republic study of dht-deficient males

Still, what do you want to achieve with this thread...

 

[Dhair]

I’m not taking bout the PFS veteran although I’m glad that a lot of guys are gaining hope and joining this site like you.

I’m talking about the mailman whose girlfriend just left him who knows nothing about the human body who takes fin prescribed by his doctor, has incredible crash, finds the website while in a really bad state, then who knows what happens.

Honestly I may have had one of the worst pfs crashes ever when I crashed Dec. 2016. I’ll never forget reading Mew and Awor’s “epigenitic theory” and crying my eyes out thinking my life was over.

I’ll never forget how physically messed up I was until I got drugged. How there was legit nobody there to tell me I was going to be fine. No recovery story I read had the severity of my symptoms. And finding recovery stories was nearly impossible on that site.

I didn’t take my life but for 7 months that’s all I wanted to do. My brain racing at the fastest pace imaginable (when not drugged with antidepressants, anti anxieties), or feeling like I got my ass kicked by stone cold Steve Austin all day everyday (when on the drugs.) Brain shouting at myself “you have to die, you have to die, you have to die.”

I knew I was going to take my life eventually. Wasn’t a matter of if but when.

If there was a site out there where there that was around using science to treat people along with severe recoveries like myself, with explanations of what happened to us and how to get better I certainly would’ve been in a much better place mentally.

Ask @Concerned .... he probably is one of the worst cases we have here and he found hackstasis. What would have you done if you didn’t find this website man? I know you’re not in a great place, but at least you have somewhere to start and some guides.

And I’m all for the cdnuts ways of beating pfs that was out there when I crashed... but for some people it just doesn’t work. Ask @Moonman who has been the epitome of health for 12+ years since he got pfs. PFS is an imbalance that can be tricky to cure- cdnuts can work and it does for some but for others it does not.

Also, I wasn’t physically capable of much exercise or fasting or doing much of anything when I crashed. I needed to kill a pathogen first and foremost. The chemical depression and anxiety was too bad.

This site gives hope. There are several guys cured, there are a bunch of major improvements. There is science backing what we are doing backed by doctors as this science has developed over 200 years. Don’t forget Eck and the mineral balancing docs learned a lot from doctors in the 1800s.

People should at least have the ability to know that we are experimenting quite well over here. It should be a known thing on PH.

I think the people on PH don't understand what "epigenetic" means if they are using this in the context of framing PFS as a permanent physiological change.
There are literally countless things that can cause epigenetic changes. What evidence do they provide that suggests the process is irreversible?
This is similar to people's hysterical reaction when discovering that the flouroqinolone antibiotics cause DNA damage, or that finasteride causes neurosteroid problems. Many things can lower allopregnanolone in the brain. Social isolation can do it reliably. It is nothing unique to PFS. People seem to focus most on the mechanisms that they don't understand, and they obsess over them because they seem more scary or "permanent."

 

[pedal]

Have you followed the topic at all? Any means of logical or rational discussion with OP has been met with irrational response.

That's not true we're not even discussing the topic we're getting distracted by minor disagreements. It's much less important we find a way out of this word-maze, we need to ignore pointless differences and figure out what this shit did to us. And we need to do it now.

This isn't Propeciahelp or SolvePFS and that's a good thing. The only people who should be called out and slapped around as a reminder are those who waste time, regardless of what bad habits you had it's time to wake up. Be prepared to read some things that sound stupid or piss you off as long as it might help you get your normal healthy functioning body back.

One who is acting homophobic, is homophobic. The use of those to advance an agenda (dividing a country, passing laws) for political or social reasons, is practicing cultural Marxism.

That's good enough for me.

 

[raven]

Homophobic is the term which close discussion. This is the same word as ,,fascisst''. Great example of marxist cultural terrorism.
If someone have no argument, he/she will react emotionally and call you: homophobic, fascisst, antisemite
I think we cant tolerate this kind of discusiion where someone instead of using logical arguments, is reacting emotionally.

Calling someone who is fine with gay people taking finasteride, because he wants a more masculine association with balding, homophobic, is not 'cultural Marxist terrorism.' Cultural marxism doesnt make any sense as a term in the first place

 

[noprop]

Still, what do you want to achieve with this thread...

He wanted to explain that they searched for pseudohermaphrodites. And found that dht is the! male hormone. By blocking it you are castrated. Even in Behaviour. Docs know that , at least most of them. But M. told the world and lied that dht would not be useful in adults. Prostate and hairloss are just camouflage. People with high dht levels have an high upsentisizing level of androgen receptors and a doubelling. Thats why there are more fucked by this poison shit when dht comes back. So the masculine types seems to be the target.

 

[noprop]

I think the people on PH don't understand what "epigenetic" means if they are using this in the context of framing PFS as a permanent physiological change.
There are literally countless things that can cause epigenetic changes. What evidence do they provide that suggests the process is irreversible?
This is similar to people's hysterical reaction when discovering that the flouroqinolone antibiotics cause DNA damage, or that finasteride causes neurosteroid problems. Many things can lower allopregnanolone in the brain. Social isolation can do it reliably. It is nothing unique to PFS. People seem to focus most on the mechanisms that they don't understand, and they obsess over them because they seem more scary or "permanent."

I would be interested anyway if even (in some cases) mutation could be possible. But this would need completely independent studies not being surveilled by pharma. No pharma develops a drug without treatment. You dont need to think that we know all the shit going on behind the doors.

 

[pedal]

He wanted to explain that they searched for pseudohermaphrodites.

Prostate and hairloss are just camouflage.

So the masculine types seems to be the target.

Bingo.

hackstatis got me banned, they think I'm one of your drones. Just the suspicion of it got me banned on Solve last week and just the suspicion of loyalty to Hack got banned on PH yesterday. I think Mew and his mods were leniant towards Hack being mentioned there until this weekend. (Sorry guys).

Truth is ... My frustration with the spineless pantywaists who run and moderate those two sites come from myself not from something I read here.

To be fair I also mentioned the Jewish question. No I didn't say that Merck is a Jewish company (which is a fact) and Finasteride is therefore a Jewish medication (assuming you have half of a brain and a drop of courage to acknowledge this) and that Fin/Dut prescriptions and saw palmetto in men's vitamins are a form of population control or social darwanism (which are not facts but opinions albeit with some evidence as well as some plausible deniability). No no no I'm not that stupid I know what to expect from spineless American men like Mew.

I mentioned the word Jew in regards to the recently posted Conan interview with Ashton Kutcher who the imbeciles on PH and Solve think will be their ally in spreading PFS awareness and donating millions because he mentioned getting off Dut for the last 3 years due to lowered testosterone levels and fear of side-effects like birth defects in his future children.

If you know anything about how the Hollywood business works, late night talk shows are pay-to-play platforms for promotion, usually of the latest movie, sometimes of some other product like a drug or in this case certain awareness/conclusions about it. The marketing firms who a pharmaceutical company (probably Merck but possibly a competitor) hired to write a script for this "unscripted" live show know what they are doing, they know psychology and they have a lot of experience herding the American public around. Ashton will be seen as a "sweetheart" by women because he heroically sacrificed his hairline and faced his adolescent male insecurities (at the age of 40?!) to conceive healthy children with his loving wife. They might even have a DailyMail article about this. What's the point? You can make guesses yourself. Perhaps so any men here who have children with genetic problems will be blamed by wives and society at large for not getting off fin while conceiving (ignoring that the damage is done when you are much younger and before you were warned).

*Please note; To avoid derailing this thread further with needless arguments if you do not know anything about this topic or you're tempted to having an emotional fit not based purely on facts focused on trying to defeat this urgently hell then please don't respond and just ignore me or wait for cooler heads to chime in first or just PM me! And feel free to tell me how you really think there (I won't share it with others). Thank you.

 

[noprop]

So you mean that withdrawal (if he ever took duta) could be a trap. People follow this exemple and pfs comes up. But no pfs in Ashton. That would be - I dont have a word for this. I just wonder if there is a god who will judge.

 

[Niles]

Bingo.


To be fair I also mentioned the Jewish question. No I didn't say that Merck is a Jewish company (which is a fact) and Finasteride is therefore a Jewish medication (assuming you have half of a brain and a drop of courage to acknowledge this) and that Fin/Dut prescriptions and saw palmetto in men's vitamins are a form of population control or social darwanism (which are not facts but opinions albeit with some evidence as well as some plausible deniability). No no no I'm not that stupid I know what to expect from spineless American men like Mew.

I mentioned the word Jew in regards to the recently posted Conan interview with Ashton Kutcher who the imbeciles on PH and Solve think will be their ally in spreading PFS awareness and donating millions because he mentioned getting off Dut for the last 3 years due to lowered testosterone levels and fear of side-effects like birth defects in his future children.

If you know anything about how the Hollywood business works, late night talk shows are pay-to-play platforms for promotion, usually of the latest movie, sometimes of some other product like a drug or in this case certain awareness/conclusions about it. The marketing firms who a pharmaceutical company (probably Merck but possibly a competitor) hired to write a script for this "unscripted" live show know what they are doing, they know psychology and they have a lot of experience herding the American public around. Ashton will be seen as a "sweetheart" by women because he heroically sacrificed his hairline and faced his adolescent male insecurities (at the age of 40?!) to conceive healthy children with his loving wife. They might even have a DailyMail article about this. What's the point? You can make guesses yourself. Perhaps so any men here who have children with genetic problems will be blamed by wives and society at large for not getting off fin while conceiving (ignoring that the damage is done when you are much younger and before you were warned).

*Please note; To avoid derailing this thread further with needless arguments if you do not know anything about this topic or you're tempted to having an emotional fit not based purely on facts focused on trying to defeat this urgently hell then please don't respond and just ignore me or wait for cooler heads to chime in first or just PM me! And feel free to tell me how you really think there (I won't share it with others). Thank you.

Okay, not even going to address the content of this because you are clearly too far gone, but answer me this: how does any of this batshit crazy speculation help anyone? You keep talking about distractions, but this crazy talk is nothing but a huge distraction from recovery that can make people go insane with misplaced resentment.

 

[pedal]

So you mean that withdrawal (if he ever took duta) could be a trap. People follow this exemple and pfs comes up. But no pfs in Ashton. That would be - I dont have a word for this. I just wonder if there is a god who will judge.

Here is the clip:

It gets even better. Ashton is part Jew. His wife Mila Kunis is a full Jew. And they are both waiting until their 40s to have children (very irresponsible, even mid-30s is old). Because of their age and the realities of Jewish and Amish inbreeding they have a very high chance of one or more their children having autism and genetic problems. I'm talking a probability of 50% or more if they have 2 or 3 kids. Maybe this will be blamed on Fin/Duta for a future lawsuit cash out, of course that money will never reach people like us and it will only happen when there is a new hairloss option on the market. (Ashton has already led a "crusade" in Washington a few years ago if you remember). He is just an actor, a bad one, paid to act out a script and not ask questions, he doesn't know nor care, he is just a prostitute for Merck and similar companies. But he knows how to make money off the filth that is Hollywood and was already a producer of reality shows back in the 2000s and that should tell you how trust worthy he is because reality shows are about creating a false reality, their producers and directors are the same as pornographers and no decent person would be a part of something like that.

 

[Shadow]

how does any of this batshit crazy speculation help anyone?

Exactly...

 

[noprop]

I dont cimpletely get yiur post but I think withdrawal of duta is more dangerous and it apoears as if you could do it cold turkey. For me it is a trap. And those guys being now at this age of Ashton and wanting family will be fucked up cause they think it would be better for the future children to withdrawal from dut / fin.

 

[pedal]

Okay, not even going to address the content of this

Cool

but answer me this: how does any of this batshit crazy speculation help anyone? You keep talking about distractions, but this crazy talk is nothing but a huge distraction from recovery that can make people go insane with misplaced resentment.

Because, read this from the top of page 2 of this thread:

Those places are so bad, that they turned my usually homicidal thoughts into suicidal.

They're poison and fuck those places, man.

If this view, which btw is the truth, which I know nobody these days cares about but it's worth mentioning from time to time in case there's one person left out there who doesn't live in bullshit land. So let me start again. If this view was allowed to be posted on Propeciahelp and Solvepfs, don't you think men would react differently than giving up?

Don't you think they would become enraged and supremely motivated and throw their heart and life savings into the pursuit, rather than sitting back impotently reading PFSfoundation updates and donating $10 a month while feeling sorry for themselves.

A few phrases come to mind..
"Success is the best revenge."
"Don't give the bastards the satisfaction" -John Wayne

 

[noprop]

Exactly...

Read the story about pseudohermaphrodites. Their status is a Mutation. I even guess in some of us could be a Mutation, too. And Baylor could show it. Could, cause never will they public this. Those studies are surveilled.

 

[Niles]

If this view was allowed to be posted on Propeciahelp and Solvepfs don't you think men would react differently than giving up? Don't you think they would become enraged and supremely motivated and throw their heart and life savings into the pursuit, rather than sitting back impotently reading PFSfoundation updates and donating $10 a month while feeling sorry for themselves.

No, I don't. If we lived in a world where any of this were plausible, I would not be any more or less motivated to recover, and I don't think most others would be either. Based on these ramblings and your resentful talk towards men who have success with women, it sounds to me like resentment is the sole motivator in your life. This being the case, it makes sense that adding another victim card to your ever-growing pile would further motivate you. But this is not how normal people live.

This is all a major distraction, not to mention incredibly offensive. Period.