Barbaar Hair Analysis (PSSD)

[HerrFisch]

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Thats too much, dont buy the supplements there. They charge way to much for Adrena, ZMC, Minplex. Thats double the price?!

I payed those €€€.

Min Plex 180 // 26€
Potassium Plus 90 // 11,50€
ZMC 180 // 31 €
E 60 //16€
E 120// 26€
Adrena 180 // 24 €

Without Fulvic acid, and Digesta you should get the supplements in EU for 2 months for about 180 €. 90€ Each.
I suppose Digesta = Digest V-zyme ? That should be for 180 capsules = 27€ .
So depending on how much Digest you want / should take, add that to 90€.
But 450 € for 2 months ? wow.

 

[Jaxx]

@barbaar you know what I was thinking

IN your urine it is shown that you are are losing sodium big time, all sodium is just being lost. in the urine.

I was thinking what if you load up on sodium HUGE , just like Troy loaded on potassium and keep it for a while

your body will learn how to live with it then

Isnt the problem that the body is losing Sodium then, rather than the availability of it? How would increasing sodium levels bind it instead of just losing more?
Also, that would imply that in PSSD, serotonine levels are too low, while people going back on SSRI make things worse in general (on and off)

 

[Helen]

Isnt the problem that the body is losing Sodium then, rather than the availability of it? How would increasing sodium levels bind it instead of just losing more?

what? the problem is that the body is losing sodium. without sodium you cant bind and delivery serotonin into the cell.

he has zero sodium levels in blood, and losing sodium into the urine.

this gut stuck since serotonin was high inside of the cell , and SODIUM delivers serotonin into the cell, So when SSRI keeps it high there, sodium gets lost.

and then you go of SSRI, but sodium metabolism never restores, since now you have respiratory alkalosis which keeps sodium losses going

So now you go on sodium load it load it , and this will decrease respiratory alkalosis, the body will kills adrenaline.

and will learn how to live with high sodium again.

 

[barbaar]

@barbaar (PDF) Hyponatremia Associated with Selective Serotonin-Reuptake Inhibitors in Older Adults

Ok so SSRIs definitely have the potential to cause the body to get rid of sodium. Still weird that it got stuck in that state though.

Upon discontinuation of the SSRI, the time course of return to normal sodium concentrations has ranged from 48 hours to 6 weeks, with most cases resolving within 2 weeks.

I've been off them for nearly 3 years. Dammit body didn't you get the message? You can stop getting rid of sodium lol.

Just chugged my first glass of salt water, fingers crossed!

 

[Helen]

@barbaar when sodium is down, adrenaline has to go up to substitute it. so when you go on SSRI, your start living on adrenaline

And then when you come off you are in respiratory alkalosis

And this keeps sodium losses going.

Since you took SSRI. body lost sodium but increased adrenaline like crazy to oppose SSRI.

then all of a sudden you take away SSRI, and now you have only adrenaline going.

Which cuases respiratory alkalosis . SODIUM is not allowed during respiratory alkalosis.


This is why is you pound on sodium now. you should start feeling really bad.

but body will downregulate adrenaline, and then when you come off sodium

You will have more sodium in blood ALLOWED.

And PSSD will go away.

 

[Jaxx]

what? the problem is that the body is losing sodium. without sodium you cant bind and delivery serotonin into the cell.

he has zero sodium levels in blood, and losing sodium into the urine.

this gut stuck since serotonin was high inside of the cell , and SODIUM delivers serotonin into the cell, So when SSRI keeps it high there, sodium gets lost.

and then you go of SSRI, but sodium metabolism never restores, since now you have respiratory acidosis, which keeps sodium losses going

So now you go on sodium load it load it , and this will decrease respiratory acidosis, the body will kills adrenaline.

and will learn how to live with high sodium again.

Yes, i was asking about the metabolism part, that is the mechanism then. I didnt get the part how loading sodium could potentially break this mechanism too.

 

[Helen]

Yes, i was asking about the metabolism part, that is the mechanism then. I didnt get the part how loading sodium could potentially break this mechanism too.

Read previous post

 

[Jaxx]

@barbaar when sodium is down, adrenaline has to go up to substitute it. so when you go on SSRI, your start living on adrenaline

And then when you come off you are in respiratory alkalosis

And this keeps sodium losses going.

Since you took SSRI. body lost sodium but increased adrenaline like crazy to oppose SSRI.

then all of a sudden you take away SSRI, and now you have only adrenaline going.

Which cuases respiratory alkalosis . SODIUM is not allowed during respiratory alkalosis.


This is why is you pound on sodium now. you should start feeling really bad.

but body will downregulate adrenaline, and then when you come off sodium

You will have more sodium in blood ALLOWED.

And PSSD will go away.

This is also how lowering progesterone helps people, by increasing potassium as a result, affecting sodium uptake?

 

[Helen]

@Jaxx You take SSRI, this increases serotonin inside of the cell, since serotonin transporter works on sodium, SODIUM is flushed out.

Since SSRI increase serotonin, this increases your parasympathetic nervous system slows breathing etc.

To oppose this , body has to increase adrenaline.

Now you suddenly go off SSRI. your adrenaline is upregulated, your sodium loss is upregulated and you are stuck in respiratory alkalosis.

thus SODIUM cant get back in.


SO if you take SODIUM huge amounts, you make respiratory alkalosis worse since sodium increases sympathetic nervous system.

This will downregulate adrenaline in 2-3 weeks. then you go off sodium. And your body will increase sodium absorption on its own, since adrenaline now is downregulated.

 

[Helen]

This is also how lowering progesterone helps people, by increasing potassium as a result, affecting sodium uptake?

yes


you need to kill adrenaline, adrenaline causes too many fatty acids in blood and stops 11 beta hsd. conversion. So no aldo, and no cortisol

 

[Helen]

@Jaxx I hope you understand now that this is the answer to PSSD LOL

this is why ARL basically chelates copper in this chemistry and kills adrenaline.

 

[Jaxx]

@Jaxx You take SSRI, this increases serotonin inside of the cell, since serotonin transporter works on sodium, SODIUM is flushed out.

Since SSRI increase serotonin, this increases your parasympathetic nervous system slows breathing etc.

To oppose this , body has to increase adrenaline.

Now you suddenly go off SSRI. your adrenaline is upregulated, your sodium loss is upregulated and you are stuck in respiratory alkalosis.

thus SODIUM cant get back in.


SO if you take SODIUM huge amounts, you make respiratory alkalosis worse since sodium increases sympathetic nervous system.

This will downregulate adrenaline in 2-3 weeks. then you go off sodium. And your body will increase sodium absorption on its own, since adrenaline now is downregulated.

Will be interesting to see the effect, would also be very different method compared to other cures so-far obviously.

 

[Jaxx]

Also pretty sure Sodium is alot cheaper than what you were planning to order @barbaar

 

[barbaar]

@barbaar when sodium is down, adrenaline has to go up to substitute it. so when you go on SSRI, your start living on adrenaline

And then when you come off you are in respiratory alkalosis

And this keeps sodium losses going.

Since you took SSRI. body lost sodium but increased adrenaline like crazy to oppose SSRI.

then all of a sudden you take away SSRI, and now you have only adrenaline going.

Which cuases respiratory alkalosis . SODIUM is not allowed during respiratory alkalosis.


This is why is you pound on sodium now. you should start feeling really bad.

but body will downregulate adrenaline, and then when you come off sodium

You will have more sodium in blood ALLOWED.

And PSSD will go away.

That makes a lot of sense.

brb ordering 500kg tub of salt

 

[Helen]

Will be interesting to see the effect, would also be very different method compared to other cures so-far obviously.

As I told you before. |body probably has retained too much copper. and thus going with adrenaline non stop .

this adrenaline does not allow sodium to go in .

And thus progesterone into cortisol conversion is not allowed. Since adrenaline pushes too many free fatty acids in blood, so cortisol is not needed.

this is why T|Ei is giving him zinc and manganese to get rid of copper which will lower adrenaline, and cortisol will go up since free fatty acids will go down in blood and body will need SUGAR from somewhere


When cortisol goes up with 11 beta hsd. |Both cortisol and aldo go up Aldosterone synthase - Wikipedia


SO I am sure sodium loading should work, but TEI program also is not wrong

 

[barbaar]

@Jaxx go get blood and urine tests done too! Would be interesting to see if you are also losing sodium

 

[Jaxx]

@Jaxx go get blood and urine tests done too! Would be interesting to see if you are also losing sodium

Waiting to get my (saliva) report first, will show prog, test, estradiol and cortisol only. Rest i am trying to get via an endocriniologist which is working on PSSD research.

 

[barbaar]

Waiting to get my (saliva) report first, will show prog, test, estradiol and cortisol only. Rest i am trying to get via an endocriniologist which is working on PSSD research.

Nice! Endo in NL?

@Helen I've never been this excited about drinking salt water before

 

[Helen]

@barbaar this is why ARL did not do good for you

They do give copper to slow oxidizers and copper increases adrenaline. IN your case TEI program you will like a lot better I would assume.

ARL are slower, they give copper when chelating it, and that slows the fuck out of the program, but may be is the proper way to do it. I am nto sure,

but slows it down too much

 

[Helen]

@Jaxx and since adrenaline keeps going. your dicks hide like when you are scared or in cold water. with zero feelings in it


Raising cortisol with things helps, since cortisol retains sodium.

LIcorice, and stuff like that.