Barbaar Hair Analysis (PSSD)

[barbaar]

@barbaar this is why ARL did not do good for you

They do give copper and copper increases adrenaline. IN your case TEI program you will like a lot better I would assume.

Yeah TEI looks a bit more close to what my doc prescribed too. Was doing pretty well on that last week but this week things seem to have leveled out a bit.

Oh btw should I stop all other supps while sodium loading or does it not matter too much?

 

[Jaxx]

@Jaxx and since adrenaline keeps going. your dicks hide like when you are scared or in cold water. with zero feelings in it


Raising cortisol with things helps, since cortisol retains sodium.

LIcorice, and stuff like that.

I had a simular experience trying levonorgestrel, felt immediate adrenaline, and shrinkage!

Took days to recover from that but i had amazing energy, not always in a good way though.

 

[Jaxx]

@Jaxx I hope you understand now that this is the answer to PSSD LOL

this is why ARL basically chelates copper in this chemistry and kills adrenaline.

But you are saying many symptoms are then caused by low serotonine?

 

[Helen]

But you are saying many symptoms are then caused by low serotonine?

yes, but you cant raise it , since raising serotonin will cause more sodium loss. this is is why SSRI did not work.

if anything you could try to lower serotonin. with huge b2 doses( lowering MAO A), while loading sodium.

And then take away B2 and boom you have more serotonin and more transport.

but I am not sure about B2 yet.

May be even huge magnesium plus sodium load.

I am just giving out possibilities here.

 

[supernature]

I've never been this excited about drinking salt water before

...

 

[Jaxx]

yes, but you cant raise it , since raising serotonin will cause more sodium loss. this is is why SSRI did not work.

if anything you could try to lower serotonin. with huge b2 doses( lowering MAO A), while loading sodium.

And then take away B2 and boom you have more serotonin and more transport.

but I am not sure about B2 yet.

May be even huge magnesium plus sodium load.

I am just giving out possibilities here.

The idea is not new however, might need additions to become effective
PSSD Collaborative Research • View topic - Sodium, niacin, copper and magnesium
PSSD Collaborative Research • View topic - Sodium Bicarbonate cAMP activator and Testosterone booster

 

[Goose12]

@Goose12 how much are you paying for you Traceelements

It cost me around $90 a month. I retest every 3 months and usually only run supps for a month, take a two week break, run for another month, and take another 2 week break while I retest and start over. I usually have a healing crises and have to take a break after a month of supps.

 

[Helen]

The idea is not new however, might need additions to become effective
PSSD Collaborative Research • View topic - Sodium, niacin, copper and magnesium
PSSD Collaborative Research • View topic - Sodium Bicarbonate cAMP activator and Testosterone booster

It is not about if someone takes something, it is the explanation why it happened. Why people take it

Some dude is taking it( sodium bicabonate) to raise test , and another is to raise noradrenaline)) takes it with all kinds of stuff.

I am talking about taking Salt , not sodium bicabonate. Since it is sodium and chloride you need to get serotonin in the cell.


I am talking about sert transporter. transporter uses SOdium to get serotonin, then chloride to get into the cell and then potassium to get serotonin off. Where is sodium bicarbonate in this?

 

[Jaxx]

It is not about if someone takes something, it is the explanation why it happened. Why people take it

Some dude is taking it( sodium bicabonate) to raise test , and another is to raise noradrenaline)) takes it with all kinds of stuff.

I am talking about taking Salt , not sodium bicabonate. Since it is sodium and chloride you need to get serotonin in the cell.


I am talking about sert transporter. transporter uses SOdium to get serotonin, then chloride to get into the cell and then potassium to get serotonin off. Where is sodium bicarbonate in this?

That was perhaps not the best example, alot of variations have been posted: PSSD Collaborative Research • View topic - Salt

It did seem to help, just not a cure, at least in this case

 

[Helen]

That was perhaps not the best example, alot of variations have been posted: PSSD Collaborative Research • View topic - Salt

It did seem to help, just not a cure, at least in this case

Some guy took some salt. You need to load salt not take it.

load meaning it has to go up in blood

and you have to keep it there for a while so the body adjusts.

Salt has to make you feel bad. that is how much you have to take

 

[barbaar]

That was perhaps not the best example, alot of variations have been posted: PSSD Collaborative Research • View topic - Salt

It did seem to help, just not a cure, at least in this case

Looks like that guy just ate some extra salt, he didn't load it like we are trying. If I understand what Helen said correctly we will need huge amounts of salt so adrenalin can get downregulated later and sodium metabolism will be restored.

 

[Helen]

Yes, it is worthless to just eat salt . you need to load salt to the extent that it goes up in blood. despite the body trying not to digest it


I mean best thing would be IVs

 

[barbaar]

Yes, it is worthless to just eat salt . you need to load salt to the extent that it goes up in blood. despite the body trying not to digest it


I mean best thing would be IVs

I'll ask my doc, see if she can hook me up. Probably not but could be worth a shot.

 

[Jaxx]

I'll ask my doc, see if she can hook me up. Probably not but could be worth a shot.

Dont they do that to alcohol abusers in germany when they blackout? Pretty sure a buddy of mine got that in his uni introduction week in germany lol
Anyway i get the point of mega dosing versus just upping intake a bit

 

[MNK99]

--My function str training gym (and sports rehab and whatever else they did... ) did "vitamin" injections and also I think electrolyte injections. I was sick then / could not enquire more. --Places that have spas, massage, acupuncture, and chiropractors, and a gym, might do this. --It was a great place...

 

[Helen]

Dont they do that to alcohol abusers in germany when they blackout? Pretty sure a buddy of mine got that in his uni introduction week in germany lol
Anyway i get the point of mega dosing versus just upping intake a bit

Jaxx, I honestly think that following TEI is the best approach , since it will take care of all things that were pre SSRI

I mean look at Goose , he is the only guy who is taking it and he feels much much better.

Orion is also doing good.


but what we do here with single supps will always be some castrated version of cure, IMO

Since the problems were before SSRI> and to get rid of those , people need some deep layer healing chelation.

 

[barbaar]

Dont they do that to alcohol abusers in germany when they blackout? Pretty sure a buddy of mine got that in his uni introduction week in germany lol
Anyway i get the point of mega dosing versus just upping intake a bit

Are you saying I should go get wasted in Germany?

 

[barbaar]

Jaxx, I honestly think that following TEI is the best approach , since it will take care of all things that were pre SSRI

I mean look at Goose , he is the only guy who is taking it and he feels much much better.

Orion is also doing good.


but what we do here with single supps will always be some castrated version of cure, IMO

Since the problems were before SSRI> and to get rid of those , people need some deep layer healing chelation.

I've seen stories from some people who managed to get rid of PSSD somehow but then their depression/anxiety returned. But also a few where it didn't.

Hopping on TEI later is always an option, one I will most likely take if necessary. Getting out of PSSD faster would just be a nice bonus

 

[Jaxx]

Jaxx, I honestly think that following TEI is the best approach , since it will take care of all things that were pre SSRI

I mean look at Goose , he is the only guy who is taking it and he feels much much better.

Orion is also doing good.


but what we do here with single supps will always be some castrated version of cure, IMO

Since the problems were before SSRI> and to get rid of those , people need some deep layer healing chelation.

Im pretty sure many people are following TEI here, perhaps goose is doing it most consistingly or the longest, idk. But also for goose it does not seem to fix libido, or at least so far.
I was healthy pre ssri, or at least felt i was.
Ill be the first to be convinced about hair tests when it cures pssd, im less interested in optimizing hair, skin or overall health.
Pssd cures ive seen so-far are connected to dopamine/serotonine meds somehow. I know these are connected to minerals, but i havent seen similar results, making me wonder if this is the right route. Hormone route is obviously also doing something. I know you said this is cutting corners, perhaps not safe, but it is also the only other route that had some cures imho.

 

[Jaxx]

And oh, i love your posts about interactions and possible routes. This has more potential then TEI i believe, something to think about. Barbaar is testing sodium now, which gives us more insights than 3 months of TEI probably would