Bignoknow TRT guy has colon cancer

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Rebel since master Helen (Yoda) is gone somewhere in space, and no one knows if he will be back. I feel like You, Tubz, Bruschi and me are like Jedi's with ,,secret'' wisdom :)

TRT is ok I think, but it have to be taken on low dosages or cycled. First LH and FSH have to be checked. And then regulary monitored if TRT is taken continously. Beacuse low LH and FSH mean that TRT can be taken but not continously. IT should be administred in cyclic manner. This will make your copper work, upregulate progesteron receptors etc. High LH and FSh mean that You can takie T continously on low dose- thats what i remember from Helen.

The same or similar effect can be done by cycling estrogen or pinepollen
And if there is toxicity toward copper or undergoing a chelation program could testosterone worsen the situation by increasing the blood content ?
 

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I mean it could be the toxic American food supply. Probably is.
Plus Noah drank for many years. I mean bad food., 3x as more likely to get cancer, doctor recomendations (big food lobbysist diet and big pharma recommended meds, and insurance choking you to death), plus drinking, you're at like 10-20x more likell to get cancer.
Why are we assuming that it needs to be the Test?
 
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Rebel since master Helen (Yoda) is gone somewhere in space, and no one knows if he will be back. I feel like You, Tubz, Bruschi and me are like Jedi's with ,,secret'' wisdom :)

TRT is ok I think, but it have to be taken on low dosages or cycled. First LH and FSH have to be checked. And then regulary monitored if TRT is taken continously. Beacuse low LH and FSH mean that TRT can be taken but not continously. IT should be administred in cyclic manner. This will make your copper work, upregulate progesteron receptors etc. High LH and FSh mean that You can takie T continously on low dose- thats what i remember from Helen.

The same or similar effect can be done by cycling estrogen or pinepollen
Helen is missed but not sure what more he could talk about lol. He wrote so much down. here It's nice to still have guys like you and the others here. At least people here think a bit further than just the basics.

Interesting what you say about the TRT. What do you think the benefit is to take in this case? Just to have more testosterone? Because at that point why not just let your body use it's own. assuming your balls are working.

Anyways I read some more about it I don't think it's very good to take it... Even that guy who does OK on it that I know he is now started finasteride. And this guy has a NW0 strong hair genetics (for now) but he complained he was shedding more and getting thinner all over. It's like why even fuck with these drugs. If he never touched them he would have good health with perfect hair. But he had low testosterone levels. Should of just eaten more precursors to testosterone and calories (he ate very low calories until he started the testosterone ironically)

But yea Helen also advised to pretty much never take it unless balls are broken. He also said it slowed down your metabolism. So you get high estrogen (from the TRT) in a slow metabolism which is the worst.

Seems to me first year or first two years of TRT people look good and healthy like they have good T levels. After that seems to make their health worse and they start to have to use more ancillary drugs. Like this guy Mike van Dusen check him out on YouTube. He's on all types of drugs 24/7 just to use the steroids. Cabergoline, sleeping pills, anti estrogens, some medications,etc. This guy doesn't use hairloss pills but imagine adding that. Like a cocktail of drugs. And he looks worse and worse as well.
 

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Interesting what you say about the TRT. What do you think the benefit is to take in this case? Just to have more testosterone? Because at that point why not just let your body use it's own. assuming your balls are working.
TRT or pine pollen or even estrogen will make your androgen/progesteron/cortisol receptors more sensitive in case when you have high progesterone and low testosterone. It will make your copper working better, it will lower progesterone by putting potassium into cell. But You have to take it in cycles, like for example drink pine pollen for three weeks, feel like shit no energy etc., leave it for two weeks, then again three week cycle... after each cycle you should feel better. It can take few cycles like TEI/ARL.



and also please read this post:




Aug 11, 2018

@Troy very good info and results bro! Stick around to keep up the great work!!

@Helen I love ya man but hear me out. The goal is to starve my body of test and upregulate receptors. 100mgs of test enanthate is only 80mgs of test. The rest is the ester. And this is lower than trt as most doctors prescribe about double. Doesn't matter, either way I've seen results quicker at first including the penis leaving the body at 6O'clock all day now and the hourglass hasn't appeared for about 2 months. Plus erection quality and ability has improved. I will describe it all Sunday on a post/new log. I don't agree that my dose is high, nor am I down regulating.
Your suggestion of prog did seem to help release the adrenaline response I now suffer more from than normally and it sensitizes the AR. I do it in 3 week daily cycles followed by one week off, which is this week and some feelings are returning. I'm not sure if this is the cure but I'm hopeful with these results


Dude, I love you too man, but taking 80 mg of test is double the dosage of normal people. And your testosterone is high in blood, and you are downregulating the receptors. ( which are upregulated in all the studies, on the first page and even 18 guys with PFS were tested in the study Wuf provided and all had upregulated AR)



As I already told you the high end of test production for male is 7mg a day. Do the math. Most people who take over that just piss it out.

If you had low test, you would never ever need progesterone. Since you would never had any dopamine to noradrenaline conversion.


How are you stariving your body from testosterone by injecting extra testosterone into it which equals to a double amount of regular male production

PLus you have your own testosterone levels. So on top of your test levels you put more test in. And 100 mg is no where near low number.

You obviously increase estrogen and testosterone with this therapy and we know that estrogen with dht works for PFS.

but you will never be able to keep going without progesterone. You would have anxiety attacks.

taking estrogen plus DHT works for PFS we know that. But it causes hypokalemia.

I do rec people test with progesterone, since on test alone , cant handle it.

As I told you , I give people 20--30 for TRT. Not 300 or 400 like some people do. It is nonsense. that downregulates the body and shuts down the LH

I will give 20-30 to a person and that person will have higher levels of testosterone in blood than a person who takes 200.

Since 200 will cause LH to go down. and the body will just piss the stuff out. And the body will still regulate the testosterone level according to current body chemistry.


Joe. lets say you have 400 level of test in your blood. If you inject test of 100 a week. you level in blood will become higher than 400. and actually a lot higher than 400 , I have no idea why would you think that by injecting double the regular production of test you will have less test than you already had?

when you inject test your body does not shut down your own production LOL Unless you have high test levels. I hope you get that.
So if someone had lets say 200 test. in blood, and they inject 10 mg. Their LH will not even budge anything. Their levels will increase and sometimes LH can even go higher since potassium gets retained more. if the test was very very low, so the body can ask even for more test while injecting test.


Some people by injecting 100-120 mg weekly peak at 1200-1300 testosterone in blood ))

Running in low T state does not involve injecting T))

Is 100mg Test-C per week a decent dose for HRT?


The normal therapy is 75-100 every week, or 150-200 every other week . And I tested people and I found those dosages extremely high. Since they were pissing the stuff out.

The reason is they cant handle this testosterone level without enough NO and NO is made when potassium is high, since NO is duaretic))

this is why the precise dosage of test which is 20mg can raise your test levels in blood higher than 200 dosage))

Since if you have low potassium most of your 200 dosage will get pissed out in the urine.

I think you think that when you take test from the outside your body shuts down your own test production to zero and you run only on test which you are putting in?

This is not how it works. If you had testosterone levels of 400 in blood before testosterone injections, then on 100 mg a week. you will run at 800-850)) depending on your potassium levels, if your potassium levels were high in the cell, then on 100mg of test you will peak at 1300.

And the reason you get dopamine activation is since the test is HIGH. If test was low you would DIE on progesterone LOL


Love your testosterone starvation Joe. You're probably peaking close to my test number in blood now)) 1300 may be. with all the progesterone. you waste zero of that test.

In any case if this works, I am glad, and I hope it sticks. I think it will , since testosterone has 100 anabolic rating, which will downregulate the AR. and after you quit. the body will be using B vitamins more to produce test than to create NADPH oxidase ROS.

The goal of fighting PFS is to keep potassium in the cell. So the body can produce NO. Without potassium there will be no arginine and the AR reception will never work , since without potassium there is no arginine and no estrogen.

So one type of PFS is potassium wasting disorder, since cortisol receptors is overexpressed. Overexperssed cortisol receptor= overexpressed AR. same receptor

This is why progesterone is raised in blood. to conserve the potassium which is wasted by too active cortisol.

No potassium LH is shut down ALWAYS, this is why by taking test you are just bypassin LH


the only thing that bothers me about this is that testosterone and fin do the same things with minerals and going on testosterone is like going back on fin in this study https://ibj.pasteur.ac.ir/article-1-901-en.pdf

I dont know the dosage though, may be the dosage of test was too high for aromatization since I know that estrogen increases insulin, not testosterone.

this is why when people ego on test or on fin, their insulin levels go up and they feel better. Since fin creates steroids diabetes when you get off.))





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TRT or pine pollen or even estrogen will make your androgen/progesteron/cortisol receptors more sensitive in case when you have high progesterone and low testosterone. It will make your copper working better, it will lower progesterone by putting potassium into cell. But You have to take it in cycles, like for example drink pine pollen for three weeks, feel like shit no energy etc., leave it for two weeks, then again three week cycle... after each cycle you should feel better. It can take few cycles like TEI/ARL.



and also please read this post:




Aug 11, 2018





Dude, I love you too man, but taking 80 mg of test is double the dosage of normal people. And your testosterone is high in blood, and you are downregulating the receptors. ( which are upregulated in all the studies, on the first page and even 18 guys with PFS were tested in the study Wuf provided and all had upregulated AR)



As I already told you the high end of test production for male is 7mg a day. Do the math. Most people who take over that just piss it out.

If you had low test, you would never ever need progesterone. Since you would never had any dopamine to noradrenaline conversion.


How are you stariving your body from testosterone by injecting extra testosterone into it which equals to a double amount of regular male production

PLus you have your own testosterone levels. So on top of your test levels you put more test in. And 100 mg is no where near low number.

You obviously increase estrogen and testosterone with this therapy and we know that estrogen with dht works for PFS.

but you will never be able to keep going without progesterone. You would have anxiety attacks.

taking estrogen plus DHT works for PFS we know that. But it causes hypokalemia.

I do rec people test with progesterone, since on test alone , cant handle it.

As I told you , I give people 20--30 for TRT. Not 300 or 400 like some people do. It is nonsense. that downregulates the body and shuts down the LH

I will give 20-30 to a person and that person will have higher levels of testosterone in blood than a person who takes 200.

Since 200 will cause LH to go down. and the body will just piss the stuff out. And the body will still regulate the testosterone level according to current body chemistry.


Joe. lets say you have 400 level of test in your blood. If you inject test of 100 a week. you level in blood will become higher than 400. and actually a lot higher than 400 , I have no idea why would you think that by injecting double the regular production of test you will have less test than you already had?

when you inject test your body does not shut down your own production LOL Unless you have high test levels. I hope you get that.
So if someone had lets say 200 test. in blood, and they inject 10 mg. Their LH will not even budge anything. Their levels will increase and sometimes LH can even go higher since potassium gets retained more. if the test was very very low, so the body can ask even for more test while injecting test.


Some people by injecting 100-120 mg weekly peak at 1200-1300 testosterone in blood ))

Running in low T state does not involve injecting T))

Is 100mg Test-C per week a decent dose for HRT?


The normal therapy is 75-100 every week, or 150-200 every other week . And I tested people and I found those dosages extremely high. Since they were pissing the stuff out.

The reason is they cant handle this testosterone level without enough NO and NO is made when potassium is high, since NO is duaretic))

this is why the precise dosage of test which is 20mg can raise your test levels in blood higher than 200 dosage))

Since if you have low potassium most of your 200 dosage will get pissed out in the urine.

I think you think that when you take test from the outside your body shuts down your own test production to zero and you run only on test which you are putting in?

This is not how it works. If you had testosterone levels of 400 in blood before testosterone injections, then on 100 mg a week. you will run at 800-850)) depending on your potassium levels, if your potassium levels were high in the cell, then on 100mg of test you will peak at 1300.

And the reason you get dopamine activation is since the test is HIGH. If test was low you would DIE on progesterone LOL


Love your testosterone starvation Joe. You're probably peaking close to my test number in blood now)) 1300 may be. with all the progesterone. you waste zero of that test.

In any case if this works, I am glad, and I hope it sticks. I think it will , since testosterone has 100 anabolic rating, which will downregulate the AR. and after you quit. the body will be using B vitamins more to produce test than to create NADPH oxidase ROS.

The goal of fighting PFS is to keep potassium in the cell. So the body can produce NO. Without potassium there will be no arginine and the AR reception will never work , since without potassium there is no arginine and no estrogen.

So one type of PFS is potassium wasting disorder, since cortisol receptors is overexpressed. Overexperssed cortisol receptor= overexpressed AR. same receptor

This is why progesterone is raised in blood. to conserve the potassium which is wasted by too active cortisol.

No potassium LH is shut down ALWAYS, this is why by taking test you are just bypassin LH


the only thing that bothers me about this is that testosterone and fin do the same things with minerals and going on testosterone is like going back on fin in this study https://ibj.pasteur.ac.ir/article-1-901-en.pdf

I dont know the dosage though, may be the dosage of test was too high for aromatization since I know that estrogen increases insulin, not testosterone.

this is why when people ego on test or on fin, their insulin levels go up and they feel better. Since fin creates steroids diabetes when you get off.))





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yup that's a good post
 

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What do you think about for a neuromuscular disorder the concomitant use of an androgen and an anabolic ? For example testosterone + primobolan.

Indirectly they should also help the brain and marrow (I hope).

Using Helen's micro-dosing theory....and cyclizing.
 

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What do you think about for a neuromuscular disorder the concomitant use of an androgen and an anabolic ? For example testosterone + primobolan.

Indirectly they should also help the brain and marrow (I hope).

Using Helen's micro-dosing theory....and cyclizing.
Helen wrote that Test plus progesterone is one of good options to fix yourself.

Apropo, I will be repetitive but toxoplasma gondi main areas of infection are nerves.
 

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the only people I see who do good on testosterone longer term are people who are already healthy ironically. If you have some sort of imbalance long term TRT use to me seems to make the person worse and at best keeps them kind of stuck in their health where they started.

Then again bignoknow said it changed his life. But you could tell he still had depression, anxiety, etc. all the stuff he started with except now he has testosterone and more dopamine i guess. And more energy, muscles, etc. I mean test works in what it does. But there's a difference between really fixing the problems underneath vs. taking testosterone and coasting on that.

I wonder if you take progesterone with it that it will fix your health slowly like that. it's possible. maybe the lack of progesterone is the biggest issue with it
 

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the only people I see who do good on testosterone longer term are people who are already healthy ironically. If you have some sort of imbalance long term TRT use to me seems to make the person worse and at best keeps them kind of stuck in their health where they started.

Then again bignoknow said it changed his life. But you could tell he still had depression, anxiety, etc. all the stuff he started with except now he has testosterone and more dopamine i guess. And more energy, muscles, etc. I mean test works in what it does. But there's a difference between really fixing the problems underneath vs. taking testosterone and coasting on that.

I wonder if you take progesterone with it that it will fix your health slowly like that. it's possible. maybe the lack of progesterone is the biggest issue with it

It would be interesting to have a topical product with low dosages
 

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Guys I got a device to create ozone ( like the one for aquariums ) and it says that it has 1000 mg / h as a supply.

How can I adjust if I want to drink a glass of 200/250 ml ? Do I leave it on for 20 minutes ?

Thank you
 

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Guys I got a device to create ozone ( like the one for aquariums ) and it says that it has 1000 mg / h as a supply.

How can I adjust if I want to drink a glass of 200/250 ml ? Do I leave it on for 20 minutes ?

Thank you
that ozone stuff didn't do crap for most here I think, not sure. Gotta ask guys like TubZy, bruschi, I think Admiral as well not sure.
 

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It only hurt ppl mostly. That and Hydrogen Water... or maybe that's the same. maybe one speeds a person up, one slows them down. But they were way too harsh, as per Bruschi's exps.

Edit: devs a bug effect from toxic load and diet. So drugs high ass doses of AAS refs will affect aging of course. Low as fk dose and anti hair loss shyt on top,? Fine as long as not also taking 3-5 other drugs, but ev1 is. Food is recreational drug. Human beings won’t survive what’s coming next.
 
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durianrider also trt and also abused steroids. looking like shit right now. Maybe lack of protein. He also never uses an AI. Keeps his estrogen high + eats a vegan diet = high copper. You'll look like shit within a few years. Only thing that saved him in the past was the running but you can't take a shit load of steroids and keep doing all that shit without it affecting you negatively

When he only had 1 cycle under his belt he looked good. Then started to go too much and too long and added in trenbolone and stuff. Crazy.
Also he eats 80 10 10 which i think because of low amino acids can be problematic

Although even the other guy who does 80 10 10 looks similar to him. 80 10 10 pretty bad I think in general. Too deficient as well.

It feels good though. You feel pure energy from it. But long term you get deficient. Incl. in calcium, zinc, B vitamins, etc. Can only work maybe for very very healthy people with sufficient stores of nutrients and vitamins

It's mostly his hair that took the worse beating - greying and balding and you'll look way worse in a short time.
 

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On ozone or hydrogen (dont really remember)you should feel bad beacuse it increase oxidation and generate ROS. Prof. Prandota wrote this about in his works/ books abt toxoplasmosis, Helen as weel. The mechanism is the same, roads to achieve result are different. Bactrim work similar.

This mechanism assumes that You have to increase your ROS generation, even if it is high now.

Dont you feel shit on 30day fast, on TEI, on aby chelation theraphy, on zinc loading, on bactrim ???

Dont those sides got easier to manage with each cycle???

You are killing bug in your brain in most cases, IT will generate ROS, beacuse brain is different tissue than rest of body. Just imagine that this is very complicated to even clear dead bug from brain, not to mention kill it. I can feel it myself what I mention in my post. And sometimes I feel like, i dont know how to describe It better, like bad ghost expulsion
 

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On ozone or hydrogen (dont really remember)you should feel bad beacuse it increase oxidation and generate ROS. Prof. Prandota wrote this about in his works/ books abt toxoplasmosis, Helen as weel. The mechanism is the same, roads to achieve result are different. Bactrim work similar.

This mechanism assumes that You have to increase your ROS generation, even if it is high now.

Dont you feel shit on 30day fast, on TEI, on aby chelation theraphy, on zinc loading, on bactrim ???

Dont those sides got easier to manage with each cycle???

You are killing bug in your brain in most cases, IT will generate ROS, beacuse brain is different tissue than rest of body. Just imagine that this is very complicated to even clear dead bug from brain, not to mention kill it. I can feel it myself what I mention in my post. And sometimes I feel like, i dont know how to describe It better, like bad ghost expulsion

Guys,

I got this simple Ozone generating device because on the Russian Forum where Helen was writing she talked about the benefit against EBV along with huge doses of niacin ( a possible etiology of my Myelitis evolved into MS ).

As you correctly said ozone creates ROS as on high metabolism I think , unlike hydrogen which is a scavenger.

I can tell you that I let it act 10" on 200ml of water and at least it allows me to reason about the things I read...it at least ONLY makes the mind normal.

Maybe it is just a temporary adaptation and in a few days it may not work anymore.

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For anyone who would also like to help me in private I am looking for ways to "restructure" the whole system. For the past year acetylcholinesterase has been functioning poorly and is everywhere in the body, now my appearance is of a much older person with no protein synthesis and cortisol sensitive.
 
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