Borax/Boron, should we all take it?

Legna88

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I was watching a seminar about boron, the doctor presenting it states that he stopped his high to become shorter by consuming borax/boron: youtube.com/watch?v=TJp7SW1pY2I&list=PLGggqay3WnGbEo_jcFttZXtlHq6pUePb0

Here is a interesting article about boron: http://www.health-science-spirit.com/borax.htm

I am really concerned about my father's health, in his mid 50s, he was 1.85m tall, now is almost like myself 1.80m... actually I am devastated... i dont know if I should tell him to take boron...

her is a interesting story of a 60+ year old who began taking borax(aka sodium-borate):
''I would like to add a comment on my experience with Borax. After reading Mr Last’s article on Borax, at least four years ago, I began taking a small amount of it daily, probably about 1/16-1/8 tsp a day.
Recently I had to visit a new dentist for a root canal and he insisted on taking a facial X-ray. Who’s to argue. He kept saying I had very strong bones, at least six or seven times during the examination. I was too concerned during the preparation to ask questions, but the next appointment I asked him if he meant strong bones for my age. He replied “For any age”.
I have always been on the chubby size, never one for heavy exercise and I have never liked milk. I’ve always had a sweet tooth though I do temper it.
I have never had good teeth and was surprised and wondered if in this late stage in my life, I am sixty-four, as the song goes, the borax is now at least strengthening my bones and possibly living teeth areas. He told me that the outer teeth could not be strengthened by anything once mature.
I occasionally take up to a teaspoon as a cleans and the first time I did this I saw white stringy things in my movement. It did not seem to bother my system in this amount.
I use it in my laundry, a solution of it in my shower to wash, with my backing soda to lightly brush my teeth and I add a little to my Xylitol and water concoction for keeping my sinus problems at bay, and the spray in my eyes, eyebrows (immediately stopped the eyebrow itch).
Xylitol is also purported to strengthen bones and teeth. I have been using Xylitol for at least seven years and have not had a cold, flue or even a sniffle in all this time.
Many people think borax is a poison, but to mammals it is not.
If borax and Xylitol does strengthen bones and teeth, wouldn’t it be a wonderful addition for all ages, children especially. Imagine children never having cavities and having super strong teeth and bones.

There is a second part to my experience with Borax. Thirteen months after the root canal, the pain suddenly came raging back. From past experience, I knew this would be another root canal to the same tooth, and another $700 out of my pocket.
Three days into the pain, I took a tsp of Borax. Within five to ten minutes, the pain subsided by about 80%. I was surprised. Then, four hours later, almost on the minute, the intensity of pain returned so I took another tsp. This continued the day and I ended up taking 5 tsp, one tsp every four hours. After a week or so, the pain was mostly gone until the 4 hours were up. (Four hours seems about how long it takes the excess Borax/boron to be eliminated from the body in the urine.)
I continued this for about three months. (I don’t remember when the pain wasn’t coming back after the four hours.) I then went off the borax for about five or so days, and still there was no pain. Then I finished off the month for a total of about four months, 5 tsp through the day.
It has now been 2 years and still, there is no pain. (I still take about 1/8th tsp in my daily water intake.)
I wonder if someone who had a sudden need for a root canal tried this, if the tooth might heal itself. Maybe the tooth would heal, or maybe it might be dead, but become ‘calcified’ but clear of infection.
I would suggest a person at least try this, but see a dentist first, just for verification of an infected tooth. Then if the Borax worked have it reassessed to see if the tooth is dead, or healed.
I also used this borax through the day on my Corgi, who had one side of her mouth full of bad teeth. She was constantly snapping her jaw, in pain I am sure. I don’t remember how long she was on the Borax, but she has no pain now, it seems. For her weight I was giving her about 1/8th tsp every four hours in a small piece of hamburger. My Sadie is now 16y, 5mo. My next dog will get Borax daily. It will be interesting to see if her teeth stay healthy and possibly pristine white? The BARF diet (bones and raw foods) is what has kept my pet alive so long.''

i read the blog of another biochemist, she is like @gbolduev , got similar (negative) views on supplements(like minerals vitamins etc.), saying that in the long term (or even short term) they can cause imbalances, especially high dose vitamins...

BUT she does not have anything against BORON. She says that boron is a ''smart'' mineral, that makes other minerals go to their proper place(s) and use and eliminates excess ones and prevents low level minerals from excretion by the body.... I posted one of her comment about boron in hair loss thread..

any thoughts @gbolduev about boron? can this mineral cause imbalances? highest boron is in dried prunes, raisins, apples and powdered eggshells according to my knowledge...

if u look up ''borax/boron'' on: earthclinic and curezone and youtube you will find many incredible recoveries using borax...

''Boron helps regulate mineral metabolism and optimizes estrogen levels, which in turn increases calcium absorption. Additionally, boron helps convert vitamin D to its active form, which helps the osteoblasts utilize calcium for bone formation. Prune also contains other nutrients essential for bone health, such as potassium, magnesium, and vitamin K.''
 
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bruschi11

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Love these man.. Boron was something I've been told I may need and that gives me more credence to try it. Thanks again!
 

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No way. Are you kidding? Can these people please come forward?
 

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@Legna88 I think I know why people might be complaining about such posts. I did not, just to say that.

But the problem is, you will find such articles or posts about some mineral or vitamin being hyped almost everywhere. Everything can be good from some angle of view or some kind of person.

Just look at RPF new post list for example.

Niacin for digestion
Aspirin to heal the gut
Glycine for sleep
T3 healed my thyroid
Low fat diet causes Anxiety

And Im not trying to bash RPF. Its almost every forum. Or it always starts at some point.
Acutally some people at RPF are really trying to tell people why and how things work.

Its just not like you could pick your supplements looking at only your problems that are visible or ?palpable .

If I speak for myself, I did this myself for some time, just searching for supplements or things to help my problem: digestion, ibs etc. Or heal this or heal that.

And I cant say that those posts I found are wrong. But those were just different cases with different but similar outcomes / problems. Just because someone heals his IBS with high dose niacinamide doesnt mean that someone with IBS from IBD or someone with IBS from fructose-intolerance can heal it the same way.

My hopes for this forum for example, were to kind of change the view on supplements and really try to understand how they work, and how they work differently in different people.

But I do often catch myself doing exactely what you did /post. Reading experiences about some kind of improvement story and trying to implement things from that, even though I dont know a single thing about the other person. /Besides her described problem.

Best example is diarrhea, there are so many ways that you could get diarrhea. Magnesium overdose, fructose intolerance, High fat food, too acidic food, lactose, caffeine .......
And just because someone heals his diarrhea with lactase doesnt mean it will help all other cases.

Look at that borax "review".
Do you know if it was really borax that strengthened her teeth?
Do you know if her teeth werent that good before?
How did the bones / teeth become better? Increased Calcification or more Calcium uptake? Do you even want this? (as it works on other things besides teeth and bones as well)
How did the pain got better? Higher estrogen /testosterone? Lower estrogen/testosterone? Higher/ Lower cortisol etc?
How was her health in general before?
Just because her teeth and bones got better doesnt mean something else maybe got worse with borax?

I think especially those websites hyping one single thing are the most scary.
Just look at keto diet forum. They will list you everything good for keto. No sign of bad things
Then go to RPF. They will list you anything you will miss out on low carb. No sign of bad things.

So if you had bad experiences with low carb, just go to RPF and be happy eating sweets, Oj, sugar.
Or do it the other way around if you are more into fat Lol.

Ok maybe it sounds like Im complaining about your post, but Im not.^^ And this was just something wanted to say out loud & I was in the mood for that :D
(And sorry tha I need so many words to describe my point)

But please @Legna88 dont leave this forum :)
 
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Nina

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@Legna88 you should make a log and post all your findings in there so you have one thread with all your findings. Would be easier to follow and you can brainstorm in there aswell.
 

HerrFisch

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@Nina
Why put everything into one log?

He posted different topics and I think its good to keep them in seperate threads.
New threads dont cost extra money. And I dont think people are annoyed about new postings. This forum isnt too active anyways.
I enjoyed his activity so far :D
 

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@Nina
Why put everything into one log?

He posted different topics and I think its good to keep them in seperate threads.
New threads dont cost extra money. And I dont think people are annoyed about new postings. This forum isnt too active anyways.
I enjoyed his activity so far :D

It was a suggestion.
 

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@bruschi11 sorry man, apparently people are complaining about my posts... i will have to delete them and maybe just leave the forum for good.

How can it be? You give precise title to your topic, so reads who wants!

I live in a place that LACKS boron, so this reminder is good for me, as I should take care! My boron is not too low but should be higher.
 

Legna88

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found this interesting comment on a very sick guy's blog, i thought i share it:
 

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Its one of the few "Test-Boosters" that actually works and increased Free Test on my Blood Work. :)
 

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I've been on a "high" dose of boron for several weeks now using hakala labs 75mg boro tabs & I believe along side the electolyte protocol & herbal/supplemental treatments for prostatitis it has greatly helped kick my pfs recovery up a notch. I stumbled upon a reddit users account reguarding high dose boron for candida & how it would give him a strong kick in the libido department and raging noctural erections alongside easing his candida, very interesting.

 
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Regirice

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Went through the rabbit hole and found this 40min seminar by a Dr. Flechas reguarding daily high dose boron its safety & benefits to health, hormones, bone integrity etc.

 

Aleksandr

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Morley from "the root cause protocol" (also a hair test guy who is really into magnesium and copper) suggests everyone take boron. Google root cause protocol to find out how much
I tbink his website is gotmag.org

Ive been taking boron for about a month also to get my magnesium levels up. I think it helps but havent retested yet. No negative sides anyway. My hair test showed i had low boron.