Can someone try Wormwood to block GABA A receptor and see if you feel recovered.

[Helen]

If GABA A overexpressed , just like after surgeries, it gets stuck like that, it causes CFS after surgery,

I understand that this is not a cure, but can someone try to block GABA A with artemisia ( wormwood) and see if this clears PFS.

This is just to understand what is stopping the recovery of people

I mean if this clears PFS, then we know what the problem is.


Brain overexpressed gaba A receptor and now stopping 5AR. you block GABA A- 5AR goes up, and everything works.


just a theory

 

[freeflow]

Im not kidding, im taking wormwood and pau de arco the last 3-4 days and my dopamine is much higher.
(I started to use them to decrease gut sibo and parasites)
The first few hours are brain fog, then the rest of the day is better. But i will stop then, as it will only make me worse in the long run i see.
So try some gaba a agonists?

Or might be my Gaba is underexpressed and feel shit the first 3-4 hours, and the rest of the day higher dopamine is a snap back.

Lol, i hope i helped somewhat.

 

[Reverse]

If GABA A overexpressed , just like after surgeries, it gets stuck like that, it causes CFS after surgery,

I understand that this is not a cure, but can someone try to block GABA A with artemisia ( wormwood) and see if this clears PFS.

This is just to understand what is stopping the recovery of people

I mean if this clears PFS, then we know what the problem is.


Brain overexpressed gaba A receptor and now stopping 5AR. you block GABA A- 5AR goes up, and everything works.


just a theory

I think I remember Chi said he took wormwood in his recovery post, but I don't know how often.

 

[Helen]

Never mind guys, I found this wormwood

Thujone


But still would like to know about fast and low oxidiziers,

and low and high hormone people.

 

[wuf]

If GABA A overexpressed , just like after surgeries, it gets stuck like that, it causes CFS after surgery,

I understand that this is not a cure, but can someone try to block GABA A with artemisia ( wormwood) and see if this clears PFS.

This is just to understand what is stopping the recovery of people

I mean if this clears PFS, then we know what the problem is.


Brain overexpressed gaba A receptor and now stopping 5AR. you block GABA A- 5AR goes up, and everything works.


just a theory

Wormwood has been used from suffer CHI in his recovering.

 

[Helen]

Im not kidding, im taking wormwood and pau de arco the last 3-4 days and my dopamine is much higher.
(I started to use them to decrease gut sibo and parasites)
The first few hours are brain fog, then the rest of the day is better. But i will stop then, as it will only make me worse in the long run i see.
So try some gaba a agonists?

Or might be my Gaba is underexpressed and feel shit the first 3-4 hours, and the rest of the day higher dopamine is a snap back.

Lol, i hope i helped somewhat.

are you low hormones , case , right?

 

[freeflow]

are you low hormones , case , right?

I was in the past high T, low free T etc, but i think what i realized matters more:

After thinking about this thing this morning, I realized Im an underexpressed/insensitive GABA case. Im 99.99% sure of this.
Taking wormwood fuck my mood totally, I become very hateful, angry, irritated. It blocks my too few GABA receptors. I become too sensitive to sounds, I got into an argument easily with my assistent as she was tossing the instruments and making noise. Other times this noise doesnt disturb me.

The same with R andro, irritated, noise sensitivity, hateful about job, etc.

The wormwood effect seems to clear in 3-5 hours. I become better by the late afternoon, around 12 hours from the taking of wormwood. And by better I mean better than baseline, like there are some emotions, muscles better etc. But by next morning (today i intentionally didnt take wormwood) I woke up with a little PFS crash and im back to baseline.

Doing a wormwood cycle is a 100times more appealing than an R andro, no hypokaelima sides, no hairloss.
But my personality becomes totally fucked both on wormwood and r andro. But if the snap back effects stick after a long cycle, who cares then.

Im also on Tei btw and hair is recovering very well on slow oxi supplements, some scalp stretching and dermaroller.

First i believed the wormwood and pau de arco is causing die off lol and thats why im so agitated.
Im into the idea to do a 1-2 weeks wormwood cycle taken 3 times a day and see the snap back. Any ideas of how to make the snap back effects not go away? After R andro when i had a longer snapback for some days feeling good, at some point a random crash just comes with brain pressure. ANd im back to baseline after brain pressure leaves.

 

[Helen]

I was in the past high T, low free T etc, but i think what i realized matters more:

After thinking about this thing this morning, I realized Im an underexpressed/insensitive GABA case. Im 99.99% sure of this.
Taking wormwood fuck my mood totally, I become very hateful, angry, irritated. It blocks my too few GABA receptors. I become too sensitive to sounds, I got into an argument easily with my assistent as she was tossing the instruments and making noise. Other times this noise doesnt disturb me.

The same with R andro, irritated, noise sensitivity, hateful about job, etc.

The wormwood effect seems to clear in 3-5 hours. I become better by the late afternoon, around 12 hours from the taking of wormwood. And by better I mean better than baseline, like there are some emotions, muscles better etc. But by next morning (today i intentionally didnt take wormwood) I woke up with a little PFS crash and im back to baseline.

Doing a wormwood cycle is a 100times more appealing than an R andro, no hypokaelima sides, no hairloss.
But my personality becomes totally fucked both on wormwood and r andro. But if the snap back effects stick after a long cycle, who cares then.

Im also on Tei btw and hair is recovering very well on slow oxi supplements, some scalp stretching and dermaroller.

First i believed the wormwood and pau de arco is causing die off lol and thats why im so agitated.
Im into the idea to do a 1-2 weeks wormwood cycle taken 3 times a day and see the snap back. Any ideas of how to make the snap back effects not go away? After R andro when i had a longer snapback for some days feeling good, at some point a random crash just comes with brain pressure. ANd im back to baseline after brain pressure leaves.

If you are a low hormone person, you might have overexpressed androgen receptor, and this closes 5AR. since 5AR is closed you have no allopregnenolone, so low GABA


Not to feel many effects but downregulating the AR receptor, you need to try something which actually turns 5AR enzyme, ( like tribulus as an example)

this why GABA also goes up. while you are downregulating the AR.

 

[freeflow]

If you are a low hormone person, you might have overexpressed androgen receptor, and this closes 5AR. since 5AR is closed you have no allopregnenolone, so low GABA

I see, i never measured DHT, total T was always high, SHBG high, DHEA higher-middle, and free T low.

So starting to cure from GABA stand point is not the root cure, not worth?


There was a guy @Slayo mentioned to me, who got cured after general anaesthesia by upregulating his GABA receptors. Ihatepropecia maybe? not sure

 

[Helen]

I see, i never measured DHT, total T was always high, SHBG high, DHEA higher-middle, and free T low.

So starting to cure from GABA stand point is not the root cure, not worth?


There was a guy @Slayo mentioned to me, who got cured after general anaesthesia by upregulating his GABA receptors. Ihatepropecia maybe? not sure

Yeah, anaesthesia causes GABA overexpression. That is why some people get CFS afterwards

but cases are different obivously


Just look at wormwood. Some feel great on it. and some feel good on the snap back.

 

[Helen]

I see, i never measured DHT, total T was always high, SHBG high, DHEA higher-middle, and free T low.

So starting to cure from GABA stand point is not the root cure, not worth?


There was a guy @Slayo mentioned to me, who got cured after general anaesthesia by upregulating his GABA receptors. Ihatepropecia maybe? not sure

When you take r ando , this raises DHT, but which closes 5AR further and you feel low gaba symptoms since there is no allopregnenolone.

 

[freeflow]

I see, i never measured DHT, total T was always high, SHBG high, DHEA higher-middle, and free T low.

So starting to cure from GABA stand point is not the root cure, not worth?

When you take r ando , this raises DHT, but which closes 5AR further and you feel low gaba symptoms since there is no allopregnenolone.

I see, should i measure hormones, or based on my previous latest experience its okay to do a wormwood cycle?
I jus have a few capsules, not much, i would need to order some.

 

[Helen]

I see, should i measure hormones, or based on my previous latest experience its okay to do a wormwood cycle?
I jus have a few capsules, not much, i would need to order some.

Have you tried tribulus cycling. Tribulus actually turns 5AR. So it pushes DHT but thru 5AR increase.

that is different than taking just DHT, since taking DHT will lower 5AR and thus you feel low gaba symptoms.

 

[freeflow]

Have you tried tribulus cycling. Tribulus actually turns 5AR. So it pushes DHT but thru 5AR increase.

that is different than taking just DHT, since taking DHT will lower 5AR and thus you feel low gaba symptoms.

Yes i tried of course. I feel worse on tribulus and better on the snap back. Personality, motivation muscles coming back. But less worse than on r andro.

Unless i did a water fast, and i take tribulus close after the end of fast. I felt better oilier, more alpha, muscles. But thats rare and only after fasting.

Usual experience is the snap back with tribulus which fades away.

 

[Helen]

@freeflow are you doing TEI? supps?


could you show me your hairtests and what supplements you are taking.

I just found one hairtest of yours with high potassium


I guess cortisol is high . Do you have low potassium in blood?

Your cortisol and progesterone are high , right . In blood?


I looked at your first hairtest- typical POIS chemistry.

 

[freeflow]

@freeflow are you doing TEI? supps?


could you show me your hairtests and what supplements you are taking.

I just found one hairtest of yours with high potassium


I guess cortisol is high . Do you have low potassium in blood?

Your cortisol and progesterone are high , right . In blood?


I looked at your first hairtest- typical POIS chemistry.

Last round was fast oxi, this round in may im slow oxi.
As a fast oxi with b2 and mg and copper supplements i was reacting androgenic (voice, sweat)to sunshine.
This round as a slow oxi with supps is also good but to sun i react with better circulation but no armpit sweat or deep voice.

Latest hair test this month:

 

[ruprmurdoch]

Artemisia is strong herb, smell similar to marihuana, and is working similary, on similar rceptors. It's beating histamine to the ground. Tansy (Tanacetum) is similar to wormwood , even stronger. Those plants have abilitiy to concentrate potassium, on soil, so as well in your body.
It's so good that mouse, flys, thicks, mosqitos are not touching you if you have it near your body. It's natural protection of your home and body from bad things.

 

[Helen]

Artemisia is strong herb, smell similar to marihuana, and is working similary, on similar rceptors. It's beating histamine to the ground. Tansy (Tanacetum) is similar to wormwood , even stronger. Those plants have abilitiy to concentrate potassium, on soil, so as well in your body.
It's so good that mouse, flys, thicks, mosqitos are not touching you if you have it near your body. It's natural protection of your home and body from bad things.

yeah, I don't want "thicks" to touch me. @Boris haha

 

[Helen]

Artemisia is strong herb, smell similar to marihuana, and is working similary, on similar rceptors. It's beating histamine to the ground. Tansy (Tanacetum) is similar to wormwood , even stronger. Those plants have abilitiy to concentrate potassium, on soil, so as well in your body.
It's so good that mouse, flys, thicks, mosqitos are not touching you if you have it near your body. It's natural protection of your home and body from bad things.

Absinthe & γ-aminobutyric acid receptors – The Absinthe Encyclopedia by David Nathan-Maister – Absinthes.com

 

[barbaar]

Absinthe & γ-aminobutyric acid receptors – The Absinthe Encyclopedia by David Nathan-Maister – Absinthes.com

Funny, I was boozing it up with friends in czech republic this weekend and had some absinthe too. Yesterday I actually had a bit of libido, nothing crazy and it could have just been the alcohol but still )