Can someone try Wormwood to block GABA A receptor and see if you feel recovered.

[Helen]

@Goose12 you were 4 highs. on the haitest

So that means that slow oxidizer but with high cortisol. low potassium. in blood . that is why licorice root killed you .

your body is losing iron and manganese, since this is what 5AR works on.

I even thought, what would happen if we just force those back in along with B1


I was exactly like you , high iron and high manganese.

You were feeling androgen receptor right? after the crash?


The only difference that I actually took, FIN then SAW, then SSRI for 3 months. Lethal combo))

But it seems that saw palmetto people , get high iron and manganese on their hairtests

 

[freeflow]

@Goose12 you were 4 highs. on the haitest

So that means that slow oxidizer but with high cortisol. low potassium. in blood . that is why licorice root killed you .

your body is losing iron and manganese, since this is what 5AR works on.

I even thought, what would happen if we just force those back in along with B1


I was exactly like you , high iron and high manganese.

You were feeling androgen receptor right? after the crash?


The only difference that I actually took, FIN then SAW, then SSRI for 3 months. Lethal combo))

But it seems that saw palmetto people , get high iron and manganese on their hairtests

on my 21 days of water fast I had high iron, magnanese and aluminium coming out.

 

[Helen]

on my 21 days of water fast I had high iron, magnanese and aluminium coming out.

yes, because sugar went down. and there was nothing to make NADPH with and drive 5AR

that is why iron and manganese leave the cell. since there is no NADPH

Most enzymes which use NADPH are iron enzymes.

So if people have low insulin, or eat no sugar. or have potassium deficiency and thus no insulin. then there will be no napdh, and no 5AR action. So the body obviously closes 5ar.

if for some reason the body does not want NADPH , it closes insulin. Also cortisol could cause potassium deficiency and cause low insulin, and thus not working NADPH.

then those enzymes are missing the cofactor. NADPH. and thus the body gets rid of iron from the cell

 

[bruschi11]

Maybe both gaba and cortisol go hand in hand. Who knows.

But yeah I feel awesome on the snap back from quercetin, I'm so much friendlier lol.

I need more trials to tell if it's helping sexually, but I think it does

Cortisol goes hand in hand with everything. So I’m sure they go together here.

 

[Goose12]

@Goose12 you were 4 highs. on the haitest

So that means that slow oxidizer but with high cortisol. low potassium. in blood . that is why licorice root killed you .

your body is losing iron and manganese, since this is what 5AR works on.

I even thought, what would happen if we just force those back in along with B1


I was exactly like you , high iron and high manganese.

You were feeling androgen receptor right? after the crash?


The only difference that I actually took, FIN then SAW, then SSRI for 3 months. Lethal combo))

But it seems that saw palmetto people , get high iron and manganese on their hairtests

I was definitely feeling high dht, if that's what you mean by feeling high androgen receptor. Taking r andro would kick most of my symptoms into overdrive.

After licorice crash my anxiety went through the roof. Constant anxiety 24/7 and horrible insomnia started after crash. R-andro helped both of those symptoms a lot, after the snap back. But randro always made my labido worse and really didn't feel like it was helping in that aspect.

 

[Blugrass]

Cortisol goes hand in hand with everything. So I’m sure they go together here.

My experiment with Quercetin today did not yield the same good results unfortunately. Back to the drawing board.

It might have been the kidney cleanse tea that I drank last weekend that gave me those good days. That's the only other thing different that I did. And it was my first time trying that cleanse.

 

[Kjbigman]

I don't know if this is relevant but when I drink red wine I feel like I temporarily snap out of brain fog. To my knowledge alcohol is a GABA-A agonist, but perhaps it is also in some sense blocking out "real" GABA?

Have people noticed improvement with Glycine, which is also a GABA agonist? I have been supplementing it more often recently and am feeling MUCH worse. Don't know if these things are related.

 

[mbax44]

I don't know if this is relevant but when I drink red wine I feel like I temporarily snap out of brain fog. To my knowledge alcohol is a GABA-A agonist, but perhaps it is also in some sense blocking out "real" GABA?

Have people noticed improvement with Glycine, which is also a GABA agonist? I have been supplementing it more often recently and am feeling MUCH worse. Don't know if these things are related.

Red wine makes me feel amazing for like as long as I’m drinking it. Unfortunately with my cfs or whatever it fucks me royslly for the next week or even longer. Muscle twitches,joint/liver pain and overwhelming fatigue.

 

[Nina]

If GABA A overexpressed , just like after surgeries, it gets stuck like that, it causes CFS after surgery,

I understand that this is not a cure, but can someone try to block GABA A with artemisia ( wormwood) and see if this clears PFS.

This is just to understand what is stopping the recovery of people

I mean if this clears PFS, then we know what the problem is.


Brain overexpressed gaba A receptor and now stopping 5AR. you block GABA A- 5AR goes up, and everything works.


just a theory

I can try this also if you are still curious. I had problems starting after surgery.

 

[Admiral]

Been on wormwood for a week or two. Noticing more stomach bloating and some more groggyness.

 

[Nina]

Been on wormwood for a week or two. Noticing more stomach bloating and some more groggyness.

Are you high or low DHT?

 

[Admiral]

Low.

 

[Goose12]

Been on wormwood for a week or two. Noticing more stomach bloating and some more groggyness.

How is your digestion? I noticed better digestion and lower liver pressure, but that was two years ago.

 

[Admiral]

Can’t tell as I am also on TUDCA and digestive aids.

 

[Admiral]

Been on wormwood for a week or two. Noticing more stomach bloating and some more groggyness.

I swear wormwood does something with estrogen. I've been drinking soymilk like crazy, but my sexual problems are worse than ever.

 

[Mateusz]

I swear wormwood does something with estrogen. I've been drinking soymilk like crazy, but my sexual problems are worse than ever.

I crashed from soy protein. I would not recommend it, probably like anyone else would not recommend fin.