Can we fast if hypothyroid?

[Canari]

If you take t4 and you have underlining issue

Is it liver issues you are thinking about?

 

[Canari]

@gbolduev I have managed to come off thyroid meds. Still not feeling 100% well, I have hashimotos. Will write a post about my issues.

Hola Vida!
Have you seen this topic? Who has gluten or casein intolerance? Link to matallothionein?
Curious about you answering there...

 

[Helen]

Is it liver issues you are thinking about?

No glutathione issues mostly. gut issues. etc. RT3 is raised for a reason, since body cant handle oxidative stress.

That is why people do experience hairloss on the thyroid. MY neighbour started taking thyroid , she has mercury toxicity , was losing hair in chunks from the thyroid. Sods are needed. And glutathione to raise thyroid.

 

[Canari]

No glutathione issues mostly. gut issues. etc.

Ho, I thought transforming T4 in T3 was happening in liver! And that a weak liver would make T3 low, but with high T4...

 

[Helen]

D1 conversion enzyme consists of cysteine histidine, selenium and glycine and glutamine. This is the reason why it is suppressed in metal toxicities or in cortisol insensitivity.

 

[joekool]

This is confirmed science?

If I remember correctly, I remember hearing that T3-only can increase RT3, too.

RT3 can only be made from T4. Once it's T3, it can't be converted over. If you're asking if ,by taking T3 only, am I certain my thyroid will stop or has stopped making T4, no I can't verify that. Maybe a blood test can...

 

[IHateFin]

This is REALLY interesting @IHateFin Do you know if anyone has tried this route yet?

my girlfirend has hashimottos and will be trying this exact experiment starting 01/01/2018 so i will have to get back to you on that.

i took selenium on my high dose inositol when i took it and now that im back on cycle im taking it with inositol again so technically i did this exact experiment, but i have never had thyroid issues haha

 

[Minime]

my girlfirend has hashimottos and will be trying this exact experiment starting 01/01/2018 so i will have to get back to you on that.

i took selenium on my high dose inositol when i took it and now that im back on cycle im taking it with inositol again so technically i did this exact experiment, but i have never had thyroid issues haha

Great! I hope your girlfriend has success with this protocol! Looking forward to the feedback...

 

[TubZy]

Check this out:

Treatment with Myo-Inositol and Selenium Ensures Euthyroidism in Patients with Autoimmune Thyroiditis

Inositol and selenium can cure hypo and hyperthyroid while reinstating normal insulin resistance

@gbolduev

Any thoughts on this?

 

[Helen]

@gbolduev

Any thoughts on this?

We already discussed it , it is good try

 

[TubZy]

We already discussed it , it is good try

For anyone that doesn't know.

Inositol (has to be myo inositol) tanks potassium and selenium starts up the thyroid, which essentially jump starts metabolism again. So yeah from an experimental protocol is could be worth experimenting with whether thyroid issues, PFS, PSSD etc. but DON'T if you don't want to since they are cheap and readily available, enough stuff going on right now LOL

 

[Nina]

SO you are on the thyroid for how long now? for years and still suffering from sides? What sides do you have?

When you started supplementing thyroid this increased your RT3 even higher at first since you supped T4, this is what happened, this is why TSH went up first. and then it went to zero probably. It should not have surprised your endo., , it is normal.


You see the problem of only taking t3 is that it increases your steroid axis first. and then when estrogen goes up, prolactin suppresses it again. This is why to cure anything with thyroid, you need to take it with AI. otherwise estrogen will be blocking thyroid effect, and cortisol will not be needed.

And by blocking estrogen , you basically lower conversion of dopamine to noadrenaline and adrenaline. And this forces the body to survive and to retain zinc finger along with iron.

I dont realy like this route. since I think in many cases iron was already retained by finasteride. SO in this case it would be like going back on nandrolone or finasteride.

this is why it is so hard to come off the thyroid meds. Once you go in , almost impossible to come off. Unless you chelate iron from the cell. since when you quit thyroid. Iron in the cell will keep cortisol secretion high. and you will be hypothyroid and have hypokalemia. which is super low thyroid effect.

'And by blocking estrogen , you basically lower conversion of dopamine to noadrenaline and adrenaline. And this forces the body to survive and to retain zinc finger along with iron.'

Does this mean copper toxic people have high noradrenaline?

 

[IHateFin]

Great! I hope your girlfriend has success with this protocol! Looking forward to the feedback...

thanks man! ill probs start a thread or log for her when she does!

 

[IHateFin]

For anyone that doesn't know.

Inositol (has to be myo inositol) tanks potassium and selenium starts up the thyroid, which essentially jump starts metabolism again. So yeah from an experimental protocol is could be worth experimenting with whether thyroid issues, PFS, PSSD etc. but DON'T if you don't want to since they are cheap and readily available, enough stuff going on right now LOL

yes, sir! plus inositol is recognized in the body as a secondary messenger to ALL cells in the body and the thyroid is a complex organ, relying on a lot of feedback loops that depend on balanced communication through out the body. even the gut is responsible for converting a good 20% of our t4 to t3. i think this is also why it forces the thyroid to work properly whether the individual has hypo or hyperthyroid.